July 31, 201412 yr That would be several levels of hilarious.no it wouldn't, it would be several levels of ineptitude. The Twins literally have zero use for a guy like Fuld the rest of the year. They would be better served trading Willingham for a PTBNL
July 31, 201412 yr I don't think it'll be a great return, but I think it will surprise a few people. He's having a good year and there isn't a whole lot of LHR's available and a lot of contenders need a LHR.yeah this. Not a spectacular return, but I could see a decent upside lower minors guy. or a higher upside reliever in the high minors.
July 31, 201412 yr LEN3 update: http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/269407811.html Key graph: [suzuki]'s one to monitor as we close in on the trade deadline. Should be an interesting day. I've heard the Twins have a good chance of making at least one more trade and could move multiple players. Stay tuned.
July 31, 201412 yr Milone for Fuld? Freakin brilliant. Milone not any good? I'll take 6-0, 2.61 ERA since early May over 3/5 of what we have in the starting staff right now. As for Mr. Moneyball, I guess it's much more important to win the free agent/trade races than to actually win playoff series.
July 31, 201412 yr Milone for Fuld? Freakin brilliant. Milone not any good? I'll take 6-0, 2.61 ERA since early May over 3/5 of what we have in the starting staff right now. As for Mr. Moneyball, I guess it's much more important to win the free agent/trade races than to actually win playoff series. This article explains why it can be a good deal for both sides. Twins were fortunate that they had something the A's really need and were familiar with: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/sam-fuld-and-completing-the-as/
July 31, 201412 yr I'm staying on mlb channel all day. and staying in this chat. More laughs than Comedy Central
July 31, 201412 yr A tweet by Ken Rosenthal indicates that the Yankees are still considering Josh Willingham (among other OF).
July 31, 201412 yr A tweet by Ken Rosenthal indicates that the Yankees are still considering Josh Willingham (among other OF). Make it happen, TR
July 31, 201412 yr I highly doubt that. Milone has a career 3.84 ERA. Arroyo, 4.19 ERA signed a 2 year deal @ 11.75M a year Feldman, 4.60 ERA signed a 3 year deal @ $10M a year Nolasco 4.37 ERA (before this year), signed a 4 year deal @11.5M a year I think the difference between free agency and the trade deadline is teams in the hunt A) have pretty good starting pitching and b are looking for really good upgrades. In free agency, you have 30 teams and 10-15 of them have starting pitching needs (the worst from the previous season) and they are all bidding on 8-10 guys. That is why you see silly contracts.
July 31, 201412 yr Too late, Yanks get Byrd. Well, there went Willingham's biggest suitor. I guess the M's or a darkhorse could get something done, but I'd be surprised if he's moved after the Byrd acquisition by NY.
July 31, 201412 yr Fake tweet, not real. Just going to say the same thing, got it off mlbtraderumors. Doing something like that just seems like a whole lot of work for such a brief payoff.
July 31, 201412 yr I would love for the Tigers to make that trade and completely dismantle their farm system. 2016 would be all ours! With Lester and Lackey going this early, I think the folks at ESPN/Fox need to act like Price might get moved today to keep people engaged. I doubt he moves.
July 31, 201412 yr Milone has a career 3.84 ERA. Arroyo, 4.19 ERA signed a 2 year deal @ 11.75M a year Feldman, 4.60 ERA signed a 3 year deal @ $10M a year Nolasco 4.37 ERA (before this year), signed a 4 year deal @11.5M a year I think the difference between free agency and the trade deadline is teams in the hunt A) have pretty good starting pitching and b are looking for really good upgrades. In free agency, you have 30 teams and 10-15 of them have starting pitching needs (the worst from the previous season) and they are all bidding on 8-10 guys. That is why you see silly contracts. While I tend to agree, Milone would get decent money in FA, it would be better to use ERA+ to compare. He's behind Arroyo in that measure, and just a bit ahead of Feldman. Maybe a Hughes-esque 3/24, up to 3/30? Same age as Hughes last year, obviously better than Hughes 2013, but perhaps less pedigree/upside which still might count for something at age 27.
July 31, 201412 yr Other than Johnson (3) and Darnell (1) have the Twins had any other LH starts this year? Would that be the lowest ever? Question: Are you Over or Under for Milone getting that many (4) MLB starts this year?
July 31, 201412 yr https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/mlb-trade-deadline-tracker--follow-all-the-deals-here-072337796.html This is another good place to keep track of what is the latest. yahoo trade tracker
July 31, 201412 yr Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 5m chris denorfia is going to the mariners Yankees still looking.
July 31, 201412 yr It seems that the Twins have an excess of starting pitchers. I wonder if they trade one or two for CF?
July 31, 201412 yr While I tend to agree, Milone would get decent money in FA, it would be better to use ERA+ to compare. He's behind Arroyo in that measure, and just a bit ahead of Feldman. Maybe a Hughes-esque 3/24, up to 3/30? Same age as Hughes last year, obviously better than Hughes 2013, but perhaps less pedigree/upside which still might count for something at age 27. Yeah...in the ballpark with guys making $10-11.75M a year in that stat as well. Milone has a career ERA + of 100. Arroyo 103 ERA+ (11.75M)Feldman 95 ERA + (10M)Nolasco 91 ERA + (11M) Seems like we basically went out and got a guy that may put up the same numbers on a 3 year, 5-8M deal (3 years of arbitration until he is a FA in 2018) You have a rotation of Nolasco, Gibson, Meyer, and Hughes plus a rookie (Milone or May). The rotation will be at about $26M with Pelfrey sitting in the minors somewhere. Looks like some money will be left over for the lineup.
July 31, 201412 yr Author Can we please extend this trade deadline another day or so? This is too much fun.
July 31, 201412 yr Author So Tigers are "out" on Andrew Miller. Think they could be calling about Duensing? But with the Mariners acquiring Denorfia, that means they're out on Willingham. Seem like the Yankees could be best suitor left standing.
July 31, 201412 yr Can we please extend this trade deadline another day or so? This is too much fun. Please no. The Twins have enough average starting pitchers....
July 31, 201412 yr Other than Johnson (3) and Darnell (1) have the Twins had any other LH starts this year? Would that be the lowest ever? Question: Are you Over or Under for Milone getting that many (4) MLB starts this year? If this group has any smarts, that had better be an 'over'. I'd put him in the rotation before Pino or Johnson right now.
July 31, 201412 yr Please no. The Twins have enough average starting pitchers.... *looks at MLB team pitching stats* No, they don't.
July 31, 201412 yr I'm not sure trading for a CF is smart right now. Santana is good enough for this year and maybe we still get to see Rosario in September. Next year maybe Rosario/Hicks/Santana rotation until Buxton if he is ready. I'd rather see that than trading for a guy.
July 31, 201412 yr Hasn't this been covered? Most likely Milone is only in AAA because a) he was already in AAA for Oaklandb.) the SP whom he will be replacing on the 25 man roster is scheduled to start before Milone is available to pitch (since he pitched 2 days ago). Darnell pitches on Friday and Pino pitches on Saturday. Presumably Milone isn't available until Sunday. Edited July 31, 201412 yr by amjgt
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