Are people really arguing it's not a pitcher's park? Based on the data so far, I think it's clear it is. How much of one is debatable. Now, the question is, would moving the fences in help anything? I really don't see how, and I don't know why such a big deal is being made of it, as if it would solve this team's problems.

People who have implied it is not in this thread alone are, Curt, sbknudson, USAFChief, SirLoin, asmus_ndsu, and Boom Boom. And as I said earlier in the thread, I don't think they should move them. Rather strongly opposed, actually.

Why do they need to move in the fences? Teams like Toronto and NYY don't seem to have a problem hitting HRs at Target Field. The only thing that could help if you added some more players like Josh Willingham who can actually clear the walls at Target Field.

Here is what I did not say: Target Field is not a pitchers park.

 

It is. It always will be (unless dramatically altered). How much it is and what should be done about it is the topic here.

 

Here is what I have said: TF was an extreme pitchers' park in 2010 (I did say so earlier). It was much less so in 2011. In fact, for non-Twins' hitters, it was extremely average in 2011. The frustration with the park is due, at least in part, to the ineptitude of the Twins, specifically Twins' hitters' lack of power. That frustration is being, somewhat, transferred to the new park. It should be clear that the park affects Twins' hitters more than the opposition. Frustrated fans have locked into a "meme" (using CDog's term) of their own. They may turn out to be right (I am certain it will perpetually be a pitchers' park as it will ALWAYS require a mammoth shot to get out in right center field) but it is too early to tell if will be so dramatic as to require changes in the park. I am advocating a wait and see approach. Let's see if the difference between 2010 and 2011 is a trend or an anomaly.

 

Maybe Jason Giambi (I think it was him) was right. As the cement got older and dried out, the ball would carry better at Target Field. I don't think so but I'm no expert. Clearly, it is a bigger park than the dome and it has given Twins' hitters fits. I imagine that coming from the relatively cozy confines of the dome to TF was both physically and psychologically daunting. Let's see how it works out in the longer term.

Its summer so just enjoy. Its not really a big issue after all.