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Off-season moves and 2016 roster


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The one big off-season move that I think will happen is that Trevor Plouffe gets traded. As much as I love him, and many twins fans do, I do not think he fits long-term, or is in their long-term plans. I'd love to see him stick around, but our corner infield spots are just too crowded. I think eventually they move Sano over to first, but I doubt they do that before 2019 due to one Joe Mauer locked in financially through the 2018 season. So here is what I would like to see done with Plouffe who is a productive MLB third baseman and controllable through two more years. The twins must address the situation at catcher, and I would think they should be able to get a valuable catcher via trade for Plouffe and maybe one minor league player. If I had my way about it, I would go shopping for a catcher out on the west coast. The Giants have Andrew Susac pinned down behind Buster Posey, but I would imagine they move Posey in the next year or two out from behind the plate, and would like to keep Susac in line for the starting job when that happens. Also it does not appear that they have a pressing need at third base. The team that might have a use for a veteran third baseman/first baseman for a couple of years is the San Diego Padres. While their situation is not a dire one, Plouffe could serve them well. I think a straight up trade Plouffer for Derek Norris trade would be great. He is young and has team control for several years. He is good on defense and holds his own with the bat. If they won't trade straight up, then maybe adding in a mid level reliever prospect would do the trick.

 

The one other move that could shore up the catching job would be to bring in Matt Wieters who will be a free agent this off season. This could allow us to use Plouffe as trade material for a top-flight relief pitcher to shore up our bullpen...a Darren O'day or Jake Mcgee type of guy, not another Kevin Jepsen. This is less likely, as the Twins are pretty reluctant to go get big name players on the free agent market, but I'd be happy if they could land him. If they were able to land Wieters, they'd probably need to free up some salary space for him, and I would hope they could find some team in desperate need of a 4th or 5th starter who they could dump Nolasco and his 12 or 13 million on for basically just a salary dump and maybe a couple young low-level prospects with maybe a bit of an upside. Would mostly be looking just to free up his salary for someone who will help us compete. I might prefer the first move for Norris, as Wieters has struggled with injuries the last couple years. Either way, I think catcher is the position of biggest need heading into next season and the Twins must find a way to upgrade.

 

Next up will be the bullpen. I think one top flight reliever would do the trick. A dominant Wade Davis, Darren O'day, Mark Melancon type to lock down the eighth inning. I don't know how we get that, as most teams don't have guys like that to spare...unless your the royals. But Trevor Plouffe trade to a team in need of a solid defensive third baseman might get it done. Maybe Arcia or Vargas or Santana can rebuild enough value through the rest of this season and maybe the AFL that they could be packaged for a good reliever. O'day and Bud Norris are also free agents this winter along with several other good relief pitchers, so maybe we make a splash in free agency here if we don't have the trade chips in place because we used Plouffe for a catcher.

 

Anyway, I view those as the two most important positions to upgrade in the off season. I think there are a number of other positions that could be upgraded as well. A lot of people will plead for a shortstop, but I personally think we need to give Polanco more of a shot. Two games twice a year are not enough to prove whether you belong or not.

 

You'll also see Hunters name in the roster below. Regardless of your opinion on whether or not the twins should extend him another year, I think they will. I think they really value his leadership, and they will still be a really young team. My guess is he'll be an occasional DH, fourth outfielder, and bench bat with some pop.

 

Here is what I would like the 25 man roster will look like to start the year in 2016.

 

C- Derek Norris

1B- Joe Mauer

2B- Brian Dozier

SS- Jorge Polanco

3B- Miguel Sano

RF- Aaron Hicks

CF- Byron Buxton

LF-Eddie Rosario

DH- Hunter vs lefties, Arcia vs. righties.

 

Bench

Arcia

Escobar

Suzuki

Nunez

 

Starters- In no particular order

Hughes

Santana

Gibson

May

Berrios

 

Relievers

Graham

Pressley

Jepsen

Perkins

Best LH option in system

Best RH option in system- Not sure at this point who these two would be. Oliveros, Achter, Burdi, Jay, Duffy, Rogers...kind of a toss-up at this point.

top flight reliever via trade or free agency

 

 

So what are your thoughts on the moves the twins should make this off season, and what their roster will look like to start 2016

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You will probably get slammed for trading Plouffe, but someone has to go. Him, Mauer, or Sano. They will say Sano can't field as well as Plouffe. And they are right. Neither could Plouffe when he came up. He was brutal. Sano will end up being an adequate fielder at third. Some want him in RF? Based on his long experience as an OF? We have too many corner OF already. I don't know what Plouffe would return in catching help, but it's definitely a start. Sadly, I also agree with you about Hunter staying, but I am not sure about them platooning the bench.

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Hunter has helped the 2015 club, but he should not be re-signed. The Twins will have Hicks, Arcia, Kepler, Rosario, and Buxton available as outfielders, there is no need for Torii.  That salary could help in improving another position. I'm not sold on Polanco as a shortstop and his play in the minors hasn't provided any reassurance.

 

Jay and Rogers are left handed and the plan has been for Jay to convert to starting in 2016. I sincerely doubt that Graham makes the club in '16, without the Rule V tag.

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IMO Graham has been surprisingly solid in his role. At 7.2 K/9, he is sadly one of the better strikeout pitchers in our pen. I think he can continue as a productive long reliever and occasional 7th inning guy. If someone else steps up and proves he can be more effective, I'm all for that. Until then, I'm happy with Graham in that role.

 

To address the outfield situation I think they view Torii next year as more of a DH than an outfielder. I would hope they give Sano time to improve at third much like they did Plouffe, mainly for the reason of they have way too much depth in the outfield to convert a third baseman to play there. I think Arcia will be their primary 4th outfielder and occasional DH, and hope he gets some chances to pinch hit. I would then predict he is traded by the deadline, and Kepler is with the team by mid year. I think ABW makes an appearance at some point as well when Torii can no longer catch up to a fastball and takes over as DH. I could see him having an impact similar to Kennys Vargas' impact in 2014 toward the end of the year. Speaking of Vargas...much to my dismay I think the twins give up on him and ship him somewhere in a trade and then watch him develop into a slightly less powerful Adam Dunn/Ryan Howard type of a player.

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I agree about not bringing Hunter back.

 

I think any trade of Nolasco will include cash to cover most of his salary. Trading him won't free up money as they will still be paying for him. It will open a spot in the starting rotation. Berrios and May need to be part of that rotation.

 

They might be wise to start Graham in AAA in the rotation.

 

The bench probably does not work. No one has options when a 13th pitcher is needed. Does Nunez hit well enough to be carried on the roster without a position? The numbers are good this year but the sample is small and it may not be a skill change. It is more likely variation due to sample. They might let him go. I think they will have also DFA'd Danny Santana and Josmil Pinto due to options since they are not rostered.

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Are we absolutely sure that the Twins don't plan on Sano being a DH full time a la David Ortiz? I know he has more value as a 3B but they've played him there once so far even with other opportunities they opted to go with Nunez instead. Molitor doesn't seem comfortable with him at 3rd so it looks like he's gonna DH at least for a little bit. Plus we don't really have other great options for DH, until Vargas or Arcia start hitting Sano is our best option there. I would be down with trading Plouffe for a Catcher but absolutely not for a bullpen guy, he has too much value for that kind of trade. I'm still on the Plawecki from the Mets bandwagon. I don't think Susac is realistic, and Norris is OK

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I'm not absolutely sure about that. I'd like to see Sano play at third some more before destining him to be a lifelong DH, but he'll have value wherever he plays. Do they keep Plouffe around long term then? If not who else do they have for third?

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I also feel Plouffe could be excellent trade material, and all but a few teams are secure enough to not consider him a pretty good upgrade. But I'm not convinced he is traded, or needs to be traded.

 

Bullpen: The Twins will make at least on major signing here. They need to. Someone with a track record, or just busting out, for $5-6M that they feel they can count on for the 8th. They have enough solid to good arms from the RH side to complete that portion of things,

 

I think they finally move on from Duensing. They will also look for a LH reliever, though good ones are hard to find. A failed or failing LHSP for conversion perhaps? They have a successful history of doing so.

 

Catcher: I'm not so sure Arcia and a couple prospects, possibly Polanco, don't get this accomplished. The Mets maybe who may still have a big need offensively?

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At some point, after this season, Molitor and Ryan will realize that in order to win Mauer will either have to start hitting or be benched, regardless of his contract.  Sano is the likely replacement for Mauer at first base and will start learning the position in spring training.  The Twins will keep Plouffe at third, instead of trading him.  Nolasco will be starting in 2016 in hopes of building his value for a trade deadline deal.  Santana will start at shortstop in 2016 and will be, at worst, an average shortstop.  Ryan will re-do the bullpen by signing and trading for 2 high level relievers.  Unfortunately, Suzuki will be the opening day catcher.  The Twins will finish second in the Central but will be the 1st wild card team.

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