Vargas is still a prospect. But ALL these youngsters have to sort it out themselves. There are a lot to choose from and if you falter, someone COULD take you place. I am surprised he isn't returning to Rochester,to at least be the regular first baseman iof nothing else. 

But, I still don't know WHY the Twins are one reliever to the plus, and why we still have Duensing and Thompson on the rosterand not playing mroe musical chairs and at least looking at Achter and even adding Oliveros to the 40-man (Bernier still holds a 40-man spot).

Be interesting to see why goes: Pelfrey or May. Or is Milone still the odd guy out?

Why does there have to be "blame"? How about looking at causes? In what way is Vargas detached from whatever has caused his poor performance? Every player must overcome some less than ideal circumstances. This is all up to Vargas. He's got a terrific system of support and world-class coaching.

Way too soon to call Vargas unsalvageable. Ortiz was about 25 or 26 when he really started to look like a professional hitter, and then another year or two before he became dominant. I don't want to see Vargas turn into another Ortiz in another organization. Same with Arcia.

Vargas has better numbers than Danny Santana this year, even with less opportunity, so I've got to think there is more to this shocking (to me) demotion than just performance.

"For both Vargas and the Twins, salvaging whatever is possible in the shortest timeline has to be the goal."

I completely disagree. This is exactly not the goal. Vargas is 24 years old and, as Hosken says, could still have a long major league career ahead of him. Let him work through his issues until he's ready to consistently hit major league pitching. In the meantime, Sano gets an opportunity.

Arcia is 10 months younger than Vargas. We need to be patient with him as well. I am optimistic about Arcia's future with the bat but he needs to get better in the field. Rosario is a better fit right now, with Torii in RF.

There is good news to the situation: Vargas and Arcia have been replaced by prospects. The next year will bring more shuffling between the show and the minors as all of the young players get a chance.

Here's the deal, and probably a further explanation as it seems there is some gray area. It's not yet that the suggestion is Vargas is a lost cause, he's 24. The problem is that the Twins derailed him when he was producing at his ceiling for them. Vargas batting for average probably should and will never happen. It was though, and the power was starting to show, than the initial demotion happened.

From there, he's been recalled, benched, and demoted. At 24, and trying to gain footing in the big leagues, the Twins have done Vargas' mental makeup no favors, and have failed to allow him to settle into a role he looked to be taking to prior to his first demotion.

Should things never end up working out, we can look back to that moment as a derailment of what could have been.

Dbminn, as far as Arcia, that's a different situation entirely. While still just 24, he's out of options after this season (I believe). The Twins can afford to be patient there, but only to a certain extent.

I think I also read than Vargas is actually going to Rochester not Chattanooga, so not sure if the Chattanooga rumor was an administrative hitch that the media spotted and blew out of proportion, or if it was a brief but intentional signal to Vargas by the front office, or what.

I am not opposed to Vargas playing the rest of the year in the minors. But from my point of view, Danny Santana was getting those Vargas at bats and Santana belongs in the minor leagues much more than Vargas does.

I think I also read than Vargas is actually going to Rochester not Chattanooga, so not sure if the Chattanooga rumor was an administrative hitch that the media spotted and blew out of proportion, or if it was a brief but intentional signal to Vargas by the front office, or what.

I am not opposed to Vargas playing the rest of the year in the minors. But from my point of view, Danny Santana was getting those Vargas at bats and Santana belongs in the minor leagues much more than Vargas does.

He was demoted to Double-A Chattanooga, not Triple-A Rochester. Santana belongs in Rochester, immediately swapped for Hicks. The Twins need another outfielder.

He was demoted to Double-A Chattanooga, not Triple-A Rochester. Santana belongs in Rochester, immediately swapped for Hicks. The Twins need another outfielder.

Totally agree on D. Santana being swapped with Hicks.  I know you mentioned the moving guys up and down messes with their confidence but the Twins are sort of at a crossroads here where they need to know who is going to be in their future and they won't know until they try them all out over extended periods.  And by that I mean they need to bring up Polanco again or move him to AAA as well.

Yeah, I'm not sure moving guys up and down is the problem, but more so poor timing of doing so.

The Twins don't have a quality SS on the MLB roster (Escobar is not good and last year's avg was a mirage), Polanco getting his feet wet makes a lot of sense. There's plenty of defensive questions there, but they need to start being answered.

Moving players up and down is not the problem. It's the players' not adjusting or learning from what they are told or exposed to when they are up on the major league team that is the problem.

For all we know of the first Vargus demotion, his improvement prior to his being sent down after his horrible start was Brunanski showing him some things to work on and then the NL park interleague games coming up (no DH available). He was sent down to continue to work on what Brunanski told him to work on. When he came back up and did not show any improvement in the areas he was told to work on, he was again sent down.

Santana needs to work on identifying pitches in the zone. He was striking out too much. While hitting better is the goal, it is more important for him to strike out less and walk more.

While Arcia hasn't been yo-yo'd this year, he too has things to work on. He needs to cut his strike outs. His demotion this season could also have been influenced by his attitude or willingness to work on what the coaches were trying to teach him.