September 1, 201511 yr Though the Twins will not confirm any promotions until Tuesday (probably because they can't call anyone up before September 1), Kevin Oklobzija indicates that the Twins will call up five players initially. They are: Eric Fryer - Non-Roster- Danny SantanaAJ AchterMichael TonkinKennys Vargas Again, they will likely call up more when the minor league season is complete. However, they've added power for the bench, speed for the bench, another catcher, and two bullpen arms.
September 1, 201511 yr Santana and Vargas provide depth and promise right away. Glad there was no lingering front office displeasure that kept either down.
September 1, 201511 yr I don't see JO Berrios name anywhere on here.Berrios threw six innings tonight and 90-ish pitches. I don't think he's getting the call for at least a few days, if this season at all.
September 1, 201511 yr The end of the minor league season should have zero to do with this IMO. When you have guys like Berrios and Kepler who instantly make your team better (while they are in the playoff race) I think they should be called up ASAP as well.
September 1, 201511 yr Berrios threw six innings tonight and 90-ish pitches. I don't think he's getting the call for at least a few days, if this season at all. its stupid. They could call him up and rest him, get him used to the big league club.He earned it. Edited September 1, 201511 yr by DaveW
September 1, 201511 yr its stupid. They could call him up and rest him, now if he comes up in a week and dominates in the pen or anywhere (or if a starter goes down) he can't be brought up for the playoff roster if the Twins make it, is that correct?If so they completely dropped the ball on this one.Not correct. If they decide to call him up, they can maneuver to have him on a postseason roster.
September 1, 201511 yr Not correct. If they decide to call him up, they can maneuver to have him on a postseason roster. I ended up reading that in the thread right now, earlier today I thought that was the case but someone told meHe had to be up by sept 1, good to know. Guys like Kepler should be up now IMO. Tomorrows game is just as important as ones two weeks from now. Can't get enough legit bench bats currently IMO
September 1, 201511 yr I ended up reading that in the thread right now, earlier today I thought that was the case but someone told meHe had to be up by sept 1, good to know. Guys like Kepler should be up now IMO. Tomorrows game is just as important as ones two weeks from now. Can't get enough legit bench bats currently IMOWhile I agree it's "all hands on deck", I'm not convinced Kepler is a good candidate for a September call-up. The Twins remain unconvinced he's ready for MLB pitching and I can't really argue with that... They see the guy every day and this has been his "breakout" season. I'd rather see Arcia if you told me "We need a guy who can get on base in the eighth inning of a September 15th game". Kepler is a complete unknown at this point and without first hand experience watching the guy, I'll defer to the Twins' evaluation team whether he's ready for an MLB cup of coffee. But I still don't really get the Berrios thing. If the Twins shut him down for the season after one more start, I'll understand it a bit more but I will never understand why he wasn't up here in mid-August to make that (badly needed) spot start that led to the disastrous Yankees series.
September 1, 201511 yr While I agree it's "all hands on deck", I'm not convinced Kepler is a good candidate for a September call-up. The Twins remain unconvinced he's ready for MLB pitching and I can't really argue with that... They see the guy every day and this has been his "breakout" season. I'd rather see Arcia if you told me "We need a guy who can get on base in the eighth inning of a September 15th game". Kepler is a complete unknown at this point and without first hand experience watching the guy, I'll defer to the Twins' evaluation team whether he's ready for an MLB cup of coffee. But I still don't really get the Berrios thing. If the Twins shut him down for the season after one more start, I'll understand it a bit more but I will never understand why he wasn't up here in mid-August to make that (badly needed) spot start that led to the disastrous Yankees series.Arcia should be up as well IMO, or at least one of Arcia or Kepler. With hicks on the DL the Twins current bench is pathetic, they needed to call up more than one bat IMO, Vargas is solid, but who is the PH with a LOOGY on the mound? Nunez? Yuck.
September 1, 201511 yr Kepler is mashing AA, no? Give him a shot at least, if he goes 0-8 against MLB pitching with 6k, then you deal with it. He is still a better Ph option then Herrmann, who the Twins apparently felt comfortable using as a PH the other day. Vargas shouldn't be the only "real" PH option tomorrow.
September 1, 201511 yr Kepler is mashing AA, no? Give him a shot at least, if he goes 0-8 against MLB pitching with 6k, then you deal with it. He is still a better Ph option then Herrmann, who the Twins apparently felt comfortable using as a PH the other day. Vargas shouldn't be the only "real" PH option tomorrow.I agree... But as I pointed out earlier, the choice shouldn't be "Kepler" or "Herrmann". There are other options. Hell, I'd rather call up Pinto when you get right down to it. Like Arcia, he has a proven track record of "not sucking at hitting a baseball".
September 1, 201511 yr I agree... But as I pointed out earlier, the choice shouldn't be "Kepler" or "Herrmann". There are other options. Hell, I'd rather call up Pinto when you get right down to it. Like Arcia, he has a proven track record of "not sucking at hitting a baseball".Agreed. As of tomorrow the PH options are in order:VargasRobinson?Nunez?Santana?fryer?Hermann? No reason for that garbage of a hitting bench after sept 1st, with this AA/AAA talent and a team that has a couple holes in the lineup on a nightly basis!
September 1, 201511 yr Kepler immediately makes the team better...or worse. Of course, you don't know until you try it. I trust the Twins scouts. I know not everybody does. What's the roster situation in calling up Fryer. Does he have to be put back on the 40 man?
September 1, 201511 yr Kepler immediately makes the team better...or worse. Of course, you don't know until you try it. I trust the Twins scouts. I know not everybody does. What's the roster situation in calling up Fryer. Does he have to be put back on the 40 man?Fryer was off the 40-man and will have to be added on. Since Logan Darnell has had a fine finishing kick in Rochester, it almost has to be Wheeler taken off the roster (maybe Thompson).
September 1, 201511 yr FWIW, Kepler has slumped this past week. He scuffled one other time close to midseason. Still great overall numbers.
September 1, 201511 yr What's the roster situation in calling up Fryer. Does he have to be put back on the 40 man? Yes.Someone (Jason Wheeler?) on the 40-man-roster must be waived tomorrow.
September 1, 201511 yr The end of the minor league season should have zero to do with this IMO. When you have guys like Berrios and Kepler who instantly make your team better (while they are in the playoff race) I think they should be called up ASAP as well. Agreed. It's comical that two ****s should be given about that!
September 1, 201511 yr During these past few great starts, Berrios probably thought he was pitching for a promotion to MLB. Poor kid.
September 1, 201511 yr Kepler immediately makes the team better...or worse. Of course, you don't know until you try it. I trust the Twins scouts. I know not everybody does. What's the roster situation in calling up Fryer. Does he have to be put back on the 40 man?It's not about the scouts, it's Terry Ryan falling back on his conservative nature. Kepler doesn't make the team worse btw. He has to be added to the 40 man anyways next year, losing Aaron Thompson now or then is irrelevant.
September 1, 201511 yr And Ryan leaving Berrios down in Rochester for another start next week is now just reason 50 on why he should be fired regardless at the end of this season. This current team is winning in spite of his constant conservative after conservative mistake. I'd LOVE to hear him give an explanation how Berrios isn't one of the best 15! Pitchers that can help the Minnesota Twins win now, in the rotation or in the pen.
September 1, 201511 yr Kepler doesn't make the team worse btw. He has to be added to the 40 man anyways next year, losing Aaron Thompson now or then is irrelevant. Kepler is ALREADY on the 40-man roster.
September 1, 201511 yr Kepler doesn't make the team worse btw. He has to be added to the 40 man anyways next year, losing Aaron Thompson now or then is irrelevant. Kepler is ALREADY on the 40-man roster.Wow that is right! I forgot that. Even more of a no brained. Dude is the best twins hitter in the minors this year (non sano division) what else does he need to do to earn a shot? I mean, the Twins did use Hermann as a PH 2 games ago!
September 1, 201511 yr My question is: what else do Kepler and Berrios have to possibly do to earn a spot on this expanded roster? If someone can answer that, I will give this beef a rest.
September 1, 201511 yr My question is: what else do Kepler and Berrios have to possibly do to earn a spot on this expanded roster? If someone can answer that, I will give this beef a rest.They have to project better NOW, than they will be one year after they are eligible for arbitration and then Free Agency. Otherwise, ANOTHER team will own them at the PEAK of their CAREER!!!
September 1, 201511 yr They have to project better NOW, than they will be one year after they are eligible for arbitration and then Free Agency. Otherwise, ANOTHER team will own them at the PEAK of their CAREER!!! is this sarcasm? They can call them up now and still "keep them down" enough to save that extra year if need be. Edited September 1, 201511 yr by DaveW
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