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Game Thread: Twins vs Brewers 6/07 @11:10 am Pacific Time (1:10pm CT) Grizzled veteran edition

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Senior Circuit rules, Junior League rules and ground rules


With the NL Brewers in town, I thought I'd take a stab at one of the most controversial things currently
happening in America.

Real America.

The America of Apple Pie, hot dogs, beers, brats, baseball parks, and, of course, baseball.

But there is seething cauldron of discontent simmering beneath the placid and joyful existence of Real America.

That discontent is, shudder, Senior Circuit rules versus Junior League rules. Yes, I'm talking about the dreaded "DH" versus "pitcher flailing wildly" rule.

While I know it is a sore subject for a lot of baseball fans, I thought the controversy should be brought to light once again because, well, controversy sells.

Interesting side note, the so-called "Junior League" started in 1901 whereas the Senior Circuit started 25 years earlier, according to Wikipedia. Both leagues seem rather Senior to me, but what do I know?

Anyway, watching a pitcher flail wildly is the stuff of jokes and cringe-worthy moments. Whereas when an all bat limited glove player strides to the plate, it tends to make opposing pitchers cringe.

No matter where you come down on this controversy there are a few things worth pointing out:

1. Watching American League pitchers flail wildly is awesome.
2. Watching National League pitchers flail wildly is awesome.
3. Watching NL pitchers realize they don't get a break in the opposing lineup is awesome.
4. Watching AL pitchers realize it's their turn to bat is awesome.
Even though I have poked a bit of fun at pitchers swinging a bat, in the end, I love the fact that ground rules rule, even during interleague play.

Having American League teams deal with pitchers hitting when in National League parks is outstanding and a great part of the game. Just as watching National League teams deal with the DH rule at American League parks is another great part of the game.

And in the end, if it adds to the enjoyment of the game of baseball, isn't that what it's all about?

Lineups:

Milwaukee (20-36)

Carlos Gomez 8
Jonathan Lucroy DH
Ryan Braun 9
Adam Lind 3
Aramids Ramirez, 5
Gerardo Parra 7
Jean Segura 6
Martin Maldonado 2
Hernan Perez 4

Mike Fiers 1. (2-5, 4.06)

Minnesota (32-23)

Brian Dozier 4
Kurt Suzuki 2
Joe Mauer 3
Torii Hunter DH
Eddie Rosario 9
Eduardo Escobar 7
Eduardo Nunez 5
Aaron Hicks 8
Danny Santana 6

Mike Pelfrey 1 (4-2, 2.59)
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Willihammer Cedar Rapids Kernels

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I read somewhere a great suggestion about interleague play: when a opposite-league team comes to town, play by their rules. That would give AL fans the joy/pain of watching their pitchers bat and vice versa, give NL fans the joy/pain of watching a DH.

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I read somewhere a great suggestion about interleague play: when a opposite-league team comes to town, play by their rules. That would give AL fans the joy/pain of watching their pitchers bat and vice versa, give NL fans the joy/pain of watching a DH.

Well, we might as well be playing by NL rules for all the good the DH is doing us these days … with today's lineup being no exception.

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Add another element of fun to interleague games -- decide by a coin toss on the day of the game whether the teams will use NL or AL rules.

 

And limit the interleague games to specified periods of time.  (I know, they've screwed this out by evening out the number of teams in each league.)  I really despise having them spread throughout the schedule. 

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Ok, I had to look it up, but Im guessing Blake means "capable of being estimated."

Unless it is opposite day.

 

I recommend everyone try the gameday thread experience. Mainly because I want everyone to know what it's like to be under deadline pressure.

 

But hey, no pressure.

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In 1902 the manager of the New York Giants refused to allow his team to play the inferior American League "champion" team in a thing called a World-Series.**

If the Twins win the AL pennant, they should refuse to play a World Series :)




** I may have a fact or two wrong

Never stopped anyone else around here brother.

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Circus Boy update:

Rosario and Escobar getting a head start on the cycle today with 2nd inning triples!

 

GameDay only credits Rosario with a double.

 

Is that b/c the ss threw home instead of to 3rd?  But I don't see an error either.

 

(Of course I thought I was on the game thread before so who am I to trust)

 

I thought Rosario's seemed more like a triple than Escobar's.

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GameDay only credits Rosario with a double.

 

Is that b/c the ss threw home instead of to 3rd?  But I don't see an error either.

 

(Of course I thought I was on the game thread before so who am I to trust)

 

I thought Rosario's seemed more like a triple than Escobar's.

Fielder's choice?

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GameDay only credits Rosario with a double.

 

Is that b/c the ss threw home instead of to 3rd?  But I don't see an error either.

 

(Of course I thought I was on the game thread before so who am I to trust)

 

I thought Rosario's seemed more like a triple than Escobar's.

I would guess they credited Rosario with a double, advance to third on throw home.  He had stopped after rounding second, started running again when he saw the throw go home.  

 

Escobar's was a clean triple, even though a better relay might have made it close.

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GameDay only credits Rosario with a double.

 

Is that b/c the ss threw home instead of to 3rd?  But I don't see an error either.

 

(Of course I thought I was on the game thread before so who am I to trust)

 

I thought Rosario's seemed more like a triple than Escobar's.

The left fielder did bobble on Rosario's hit. As did the right fielder on Escobar's hit. :)

 

The Rosario double will probably stand, considering the relay throw to the plate almost hit Rosario in the head running halfway between second and third. Torii was safe at home by a mile but I guess in theory the Brewers could have cut off the throw to home plate in order to hold Rosario at second. I am surprised it's not a triple though.

 

There's the long winded answer.

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I would guess they credited Rosario with a double, advance to third on throw home.  He had stopped after rounding second, started running again when he saw the throw go home.  

 

Escobar's was a clean triple, even though a better relay might have made it close.

Yep, Rosario hesitated too.
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