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Article: Standing Pat as a Strategy
savvyspy replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Standing pat has been this organization’s mission statement since 1961. This is another, “If absolutely EVERYTHING goes right they get destroyed by the Yankees in the playoffs, or more predictably, they go 74-88” team. -
Article: Tampa Open To Trades
savvyspy replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If the price is always going to be “too high” why aren’t the Twins sellers? Maybe we could unload Sano, Dozier, Santana, and build around Kepler, Rosario, Barrios, and Buxton? You are either buyers or sellers. Just signing half measures coming off major arm surgeries is not a strategy that makes any sense. -
Article: Building A Super Bullpen
savvyspy replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins seem to be taking a "Wait & See Approach" to building a below average bullpen.- 53 replies
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Article: What Do The Twins See In Tyler Kinley?
savvyspy replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not much this front office has done in 2 years has made much sense. Maybe they are counting on a 2 year honeymoon period of just being Not Terry Ryan? Their bullpen still sucks and they've had 2 off seasons to address it. At least Pineda won't be a bust until next season. I guess that's something. -
Of course we are, he's a terrible pitcher. There just aren't any good options. Breslow and Belisle would have been released already by teams with even average options in the minors. We don't even have that. We are going to be shuttling the same dreck to and from Rochester all season. Maybe next year the golden boys will realize you actually need to address the worst bullpen in the majors 4 straight years by actually doing something to improve it?
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I think Lewis is a very defendable pick. He was either 1 or 2 for position players on just about everyone's list. I would have preferred Greene just because I think his floor is a legit front line closer if he doesn't improve his secondary pitches much but I'm not losing any sleep over it. They picked up a couple of interesting RHP in the next rounds. Leech was a reach at 37 but to get Enlow later sort of makes up for that. Two very solid signable HS pitchers both 18 will be interesting to watch. What I will say, is if this is the route you are going to go in the draft, I don't want to hear anything about how free agency isn't the way to build a team later on. None of these guys is on the radar for 4-5 seasons. The Twins are going to have to lean on FA and trades to improve this atrocious pitching staff in the near term.
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Article: Hunter Greene's Trouble With The Curve
savvyspy replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Greene looks like he's got the most upside by far of the guys linked to the Twins. Wright just doesn't impress me. His ceiling to me is Kyle Gibson on a good night. Not flashy and gets hit way harder than his pitch quality suggests he should. I could live with McKay but if you are being sold that this team will never spend on big time free agent starting pitching where else are you going to get it if not in the draft? Wright is NOT a #1 starter. Never will be. Greene is no guarantee but he's at least got a shot if it comes together. If like the idea that both McKay or Greene could fall back on being a position player. I would have Greene #1 and McKay #2. I don't have Wright in my top 5. I'd put Lewis #3, Gore #4, and Beck #5- 34 replies
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Article: Eight Weeks In: Twins Trends And Tidbits
savvyspy replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Saying free agency isn't how you build a bullpen is flat out nonsense. Every team including the Twins use free agency. The reason is its tough to develop 8 internal relief pitchers and trading top talent for relief pitchers isn't the most wise use of tradeable talent. You just need to use a mix. Anyone could have seen that using minor league talent and picking up some low level minor league free agents wasn't going to work and it hasn't. Belisle and Breslow were worthwhile free agent adds but you would never center a bullpen around either. They are decent supplementary pieces. Almost ever major league team has 2-4 guys in their bullpen making over $3 million. The Twins highest paid reliever is Belisle at $2 million. That isn't the formula. I don't think any approach to building a bullpen should be off the table. Especially when the one the Twins are currently employing may be resulting in the worst bullpen in the majors for the 3rd or 4th straight season.- 56 replies
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Article: The Joe Mauer Quagmire
savvyspy replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Molitor isn't doing Joe any favors with the batting 3rd nonsense. Just move him lower in the lineup and hope he gives you anything. The fact is Mauer is a replacement level player and we have a season and a half before anything can be done about it.- 104 replies
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Article: Phil Hughes as 2017's CC Sabathia
savvyspy replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'd put the chance he's not even on the roster by the end of the season WAY higher than Hughes somehow turns into CC Sabathia. But that's the great thing about the week before the opener. Anything can happen and we're currently in the playoff chase. -
Article: Surprises Mark Twins Opening Day Roster
savvyspy replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Agree that Grossman was helped by the somewhat high BABIP but he was also 3rd on the team in walks so he knows how to control the strike zone. He is going to be in the top 3 or 4 in OBP just because he walks so much and most of this roster acts like the strike zone is 3 square miles. I would prefer Park be the DH but Grossman had a good year last year at the plate and an awful year in the field. Trying to minimize how much outfield he plays makes sense. Especially with the historically God awful pitching staff we have. I'm not defending Santana just that I believe the rationale was he was out of options and they want to give him a final chance for some reason.- 388 replies
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Article: Surprises Mark Twins Opening Day Roster
savvyspy replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Isn't Santana out of options too? It would make sense to give him one last shot early in the year. Also, does Grossman as DH hint that the analytics side is starting to win out? With his high OBP and horrible defense he's a guy you want in the lineup but not in the field. I'd love to see how he would do in the leadoff or #2 spot. The one thing Grossman does is get on base.- 388 replies
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I don't know what to make of the FO. We've been sold that they understand the modern game, will rely on analytics, and won't be afraid to make the needed changes. Basically their entire off season and spring training says they are basically counting on one thing and one thing only: That its statistically hard to lose 103 games two years in a row How these owners can ask fans to pay for this dreck with a straight face is beyond me. But I supposed you have to give the new guys time and all that.....
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Vogelsong didn't look like he could have gotten me out in his first action. He is a wasted roster spot and isn't worth keeping. He is just blocking a younger player that could be part of the future. Vogelsong certainly isn't.
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
savvyspy replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am probably in the "small hall" camp. I have never bought that steroids are the reason Bonds is just a hair below Babe Ruth as the best player ever but I understand I may not ever win that argument. Both Larry Walker and Vlad are superior to Raines. Honestly Raines was only elite for 5 seasons which sounds to me a lot like Joe Mauer. Raines was not close defensively to Walker or Vlad either. Both won multiple gold gloves and have positive career defensive WAR. Raines does not. He was average defensively at best. He was one of my favorite players as a kid but I just don't see that his career warrants the HOF. I would vote for: Bonds Clemens Mussina E. Martinez Palmiero 1st 5 Out Sheffield Schilling Vlad Hoffman L. Walker- 114 replies
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Article: The All-Time Worst Twins: Butch Huskey
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I have been watching baseball since 1976 and I have yet to see a successful organization fail to venture from the axiom that starting pitching and defense win in this league. I think there is some evidence that you can get away with above average starting pitching with an elite bullpen. Look at the direction of this franchise since 2010. There is a complete disregard for BOTH pitching and defense. Defensively this team is an absolute mess. They've continually had infielders playing the outfield and the roster is littered with about 4-5 guys whose best position is probably DH. They are an absolute embarrassment defensively. Pair that with about the only worse in the majors than the Twins defense is their pitching. Not only does their starting staff suck they get worse every year. They even look worse when teamed with this awful defense but they would be brutal with the Royals defense behind them too. I can't say whether the Twins have a "plan". I would assume they do. I think the biggest issue is they have a fundamental problem of not understanding that you can only win games with pitching and defense over the long haul. Whatever "plan" they have seems to ignore this basic fact. Until that changes, this organization will be anchored as the worst in the majors for a long time.
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Honestly this is a very savvy deal for Antony. Basically giving away Meyer and $4M to save $20 million seems like a decent move on its own. Getting back a starter who is better than Nolasco and a take a flyer AAA reliever seems like a win. I'm in the camp that Meyer is either broken down or the Twins have messed with this guys head so much he would never be the guy he was touted to be. He could probably use a fresh start. I wish they could have dealt Suzuki but its hard to say what the market really is for him. I think they might be able to slip him through waivers later this month. I have no issue with them keeping Santana or Kintzler. Santana is a controllable arm who has been by far the team's best pitcher. I don't fault a GM for not giving him away. I give Antony props for dealing two guys that don't have any future with the team and a fading prospect while getting 2 Top 15 organization minor leaguers and a major league arm in return. There is ZERO chance Ryan could have pulled this off.
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
savvyspy replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Light is a marginal prospect but when you get anything of value back for a non-roster invitee to camp in a season you are going to lose 95+ games its a win. Abad was a decent reliever but doesn't really have any value to the future. I'd give this a B just because Antony is doing what a GM should be doing at the trade deadline when the team is completely out of contention.- 553 replies
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Article: Parting Gifts: Ryan's 5 Best Final Moves
savvyspy replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If these completely underwhelming moves are the highlights Terry Ryan leaves us with I think that speaks to confirm this was the correct decision to relieve him of his duties. Kintzler, Abad, and Boshers are having decent recent stretches but are probably bit pieces on a playoff team. Grossman is playing way over his head and will almost certainly regress to his historical norm. The Palka deal is promising but the Twins haven't been good at developing guys like this so we'll see. Trading Hicks for Murphy was a bigger miss than all of these "positive" deals combined. That's why Ryan was the worst GM in the majors.- 78 replies
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I suppose wasting a 1st rounder on a guy who the Twins will turn into a slap hitting corner outfielder is better than drafting another college closer to try and make him a starter. This was just another money pick. Probably had an agreement to sign under slot. By contrast the rich get richer when an elite organization like the Cardinals get a top 3 talent at #21 in Perez. There is risk there but talent wise he's light years ahead of Kiriloff. Plus if he didn't sign the Twins would have 2 top 16 picks next year in a draft that is going to be loaded. I like getting a catcher in round 2.
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"It would also satiate the growing cries for change and new leadership without requiring a reactive dismissal or a hasty overhaul of the entire front office." At this point a complete overhaul is needed. The entire front office is a total train wreck. I don't understand the argument that charge needs to be incremental at this point. A baseball focused President that the GM reports to is an obvious change but doesn't fix the fact that the team relies way too heavily on an obsolete scouting dept that hasn't delivered in the draft and a system wide coaching development team that has absolutely failed on getting prospects major league ready. There is a complete misunderstanding or worse, willful ignorance, of how baseball games are won which leads to asinine decisions regarding roster construction and player management on the field. This organization is broken. This isn't players having a bad year. This is total failure by a team that has no discernible vision or plan. Why are we so afraid of change that we can't entertain building this team the right way from the ground up??