cHawk

Slow starts are a thing. Just ask my good friend Atlanta. If we don’t right the ship in the next couple weeks then I’m worried.

lol. Some of you just crack me up. If this were in June or July, we wouldn’t be freaking out like this.

Well it’s not JUST not good, from what we’ve seen, this might be the worst bullpen in history.

WHAT IS HAPPENING

Is pitching really the main problem for this team right now?

unreal

PH Buxton?

That being said, cringeworthy inning for Waddell. Lucky not to give up a run.

and it did

I stg if Colome is out there in the 7th...

Magic 8 Ball is a plastic toy.

Stashak with a scoreless inning.

My point is not “walks are better than singles.” Because of course they’re not. It’s “walks are better than balls in play” and for that reason. Because you won’t reach every time you put a ball in play. And I was wrong, BA isn’t useless. But I’d take OBP, wRC+, and wOBA any day over BA.

IDK How Astudillo will succeed in the majors, swinging the way he does.

That’s 0-1 w/RISP so far. Not a good start.

I’m a little concerned about Maeda controlling his pitch count. He’ll need to be able to get through the 5th consistently.

I won’t. 20 walks is better than 20 balls in play and batting .300. 20 balls in play, .300 AVG: 6 times on out of 20 20 walks: 20 times on out of 20 When a guy gets to first, with no outs: He scores 85% of the time with one out: He scores 50% of the time with two outs: He scores 25% of the time That averages out to about 50%. So, therefore: 10 runs on 20 Walks 3 runs on 20 BIP That says it all.

Ok, not xFIP. ERA then. Also, batting average is 100% accurate, yes. It’s just not meaningful. Likewise, SP Wins/Losses are not meaningful either. I will correct myself, Blown Saves are better than SP Losses, because they have a parameter for the magnitude of the situation. But Tom makes a good point, the reason the BP has looked like one of the worst BPs in history is because they’ve had NO room for error. They’re not going to be perfect every night. And the nights where they’re NOT perfect we feel like it’s performing badly because they’ve had zero margin for error. In the Detroit loss, one of the Seattle losses, and yesterday.

Do tell how Grossman has better expanded stats than Arenado. There’s such a thing as a sound stat (wRC+, xFIP) and an unsound one (BA, Pitcher W/L). A sound stat is one that allows you to accurately judge a player, by baking in the meaningful data. An unsound stat is one that is vague, and does NOT give an accurate judgement of a player, by leaving many factors unaccounted for. They have 2 Blown Saves on the season. Both by the same guy. He is not a closer. That’s on the manager for continuing to keep him in that role. That literally means they came into the game and gave up the lead - which is the only thing you don't want your relievers to do! BA literally means “how many hits you get as a ratio to how many at bats you have.” Which is what you want your hitters to do. And it should be thrown out the window. Because, according to BA, a weak dribbler that you barely beat out is the same as a 500 ft HR. It also neglects walks. That’s why Eddie looked better than he actually was.

Give the young guys (Waddell for example) a chance and not..Colome. The Twins would be happy they did.

Wins and Losses as a team get you into the playoffs. Wins and Losses for pitchers don’t. For example: Gerrit Cole on the Yankees or Gerrit Cole on the Indians. Where does he win more games? Obviously the Yankees, because the Yankees have a thing called an offense. Does that make him a more skilled pitcher? No. Wins or Losses don’t make a pitcher effective, or measure the effectiveness of a pitcher. Stats like ERA do. It helps you identify if it’s the actual problem or not.

Actually?

Do you have a better stat where they rank below 15th? EDIT: And please don't say blown saves. That's the SP W/L equivilant for relievers

There’s a solution to every problem.

Exactly. WPA is a completely garbage stat. Although averaging 12 runs given up in the 9th Inning (slightly less than one earned run per ninth inning) is a problem but that’s due to a pair of three run implosions.