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    Seth Stohs

    Over the last two weeks, I’ve posted my choices for Minnesota Twins prospects 11 through 50. Today, I’ll post my choices for the Top 10 Twins Prospects. Obviously injury played an unfortunate role with many of these guys, but there is tremendous upside in this group. There may even be a couple of surprises.

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    Reminders: This list is preliminary. Following research for the Minnesota Twins Prospect Handbook 2015, as well as your feedback, I’ll provide my final Top 30 prospects list. Players eligible to be on this list include players who remain eligible for Rookie of the Year voting in 2015. That is to say, hitters with less than 130 at bats and pitchers with less than 50 innings.

    Before we get to the Top 10 Twins prospects, you can review prospects 11-50 here:

    Top Prospects 1-10

    #10 – Nick Burdi – 21 – RH RP – Cedar Rapids Kernels/Ft. Myers Miracle

    The Twins drafted Burdi in the 24th round of the 2011 draft out of high school. He chose to go to Louisville where he became the most dominant college reliever. A three-digit fastball with a 90+ mph slider creates a lot of strikeouts. The Twins drafted him again in the second round this June after the College World Series. Upon signing, he was assigned to Cedar Rapids where in 13 innings he gave up eight hits, walked eight and struck out 26. He moved up to Ft. Myers where he pitched 7.1 innings in seven games. He gave up five hits, walked two and struck out 12. I would guess that he’ll be invited to big league spring training and start the season at Chattanooga. I also think he will be up with the Twins before June.

    #9 – Taylor Rogers – 23 – LHP – New Britain Rock Cats

    Rogers was my choice in 2013 as the Twins minor league starting pitcher of the year when he went 11-6 with a 2.55 ERA. Drafted in the 11th round of the 2012 draft out of the University of Kentucky where he teamed with Logan Darnell and Alex Meyer. Rogers' 2014 got off to a slow start. Through his first five AA starts, he went 1-3 with an 8.14 ERA despite a 26/5 strikeout to walkout rate. Over his final 19 starts, he went 10-3 with a 2.31 ERA. In 120.2 innings, he walked 32 and struck out 87. The left-hander is blessed with a fastball that touches 95 mph and a sharp slider. He will pitch in the Arizona Fall League and could debut with the Twins in 2015.

    #8 – Trevor May – 25 – RHP – Rochester Red Wings/Minnesota Twins

    May came to the Twins in December of 2012 from the Phillies. In 2013, he went back to the Eastern League in New Britain. After two years of AA ball, he advanced to AAA this year and was terrific. He went 8-6 with a 2.84 ERA in 18 starts before being called up to the Twins. It likely would have happened a month or more earlier if not for a calf injury. His debut in Oakland on August 9th was a disaster. He walked seven in two innings. In his first three starts, he walked 13 and struck out three in nine innings. In his final seven starts, he walked nine and struck out 41 over 36.2 innings. That kind of improvement should have Twins very optimistic that May can be a solid mid-rotation guy.

    #7 – Jorge Polanco – 21 – SS – Ft. Myers Miracle/New Britain Rock Cats/Minnesota Twins

    Polanco had a breakout season in 2013 in Cedar Rapids. He hit .308/.362/.452 (.813). He moved up to Ft. Myers to start this season. In 94 games, he hit .291/.364/.415 (.780) with 17 doubles, six triples and six home runs. In late June, the Twins surprised fans by calling up Polanco from the Miracle for a small cup of coffee. He was returned to the high-A Miracle. A month later, he was well on his way up to AA New Britain, but instead he was called up to the Twins again for a short stint. Quickly returning to AA, he hit .281/.323/.342 (.665) with six doubles and a homer. With the Twins, he primarily just pinch hit, though he did make one start. He went 2-6 and walked twice. After splitting time between shortstop and second base in 2013, he made the move to shortstop in 2014. He spent 119 games at short and just 10 at second base in the minor leagues. He committed 35 errors at shortstop and three more at second base, but he does have decent range. His arm is best suited to second base. He should start 2015 in Chattanooga.

    #6 – Nick Gordon – 18 – SS – Elizabethton Twins

    The Twins were thrilled when Nick Gordon was still available when they were on the clock with the fifth pick. He certainly fits a mold that the Twins have used in the past. Gordon is an athletic high school hitter with a lot of tools who plays in the middle of the diamond. The Twins believe he will be able to stay at shortstop as he develops. He can hit, field his position, has a very strong arm and good speed. Though he isn’t the burner that his brother, Dodgers infielder Dee Gordon is, he has well above average speed. Currently 6-0 and 180 pounds, the hope is that he will develop some power. He began his professional career with Elizabethton where he played in 57 games. He hit .294/.333/.366 (.699) with six doubles, four triples and a home run. In Elizabethton’s playoff series, he broke a bone in his finger. He will most likely spend the 2015 season with the Kernels in Cedar Rapids.

    #5 – Alex Meyer – 24 – RHP – Rochester Red Wings

    He missed about two months of the 2013 season with shoulder pain. As much as Twins fans wanted to see Meyer in 2014, it is clear that the organization’s goal for Meyer in 2014 was to get him through the season healthy. He left his final start in the second inning when he was unable to get his shoulder loose, but he has been deemed healthy heading into the offseason. He had a solid season, posting a 7-7 record with a 3.52 ERA. In 130.1 innings, he struck out 153 batters to lead the International League starters with 10.6 per nine innings. However, he also walked 64 batters, 4.4 per nine. He has the stuff to be a very good starting pitcher, but he will have to throw more strikes. Some believe there is a chance he could wind up in the bullpen at the end of the day. However, with a 98 mph fastball, a great slider, a curveball and an improved changeup, it’s worth giving him every possible chance as a starter.

    #4 – Kohl Stewart – 19 – RHP –Cedar Rapids Kernels

    Stewart was the fourth overall pick in the 2013 draft out of St. Pius X High School in Houston. As we know, he was a star on the football field, but the Twins signed him away from Texas A&M. He made 19 starts for the Kernels this year and went 3-5 with a 2.59 ERA and a 1.14 WHIP. He was limited to 75 to 80 pitches throughout most of the year. This, combined with missing several weeks with shoulder soreness limited him pitching only 87 innings. Stewart has good control of his pitches. His fastball sits between 93 and 94 mph but at times has hit 97. He has a slider, which he threw only sporadically. He has a sharp curveball and a solid changeup. He is also very competitive and wants to be great. He has a chance to move up quickly on national prospect rankings next year.

    #3 – JO Berrios – 20 – RHP – Ft. Myers Miracle/New Britain Rock Cats/Rochester Red Wings

    The Twins made Berrios their supplemental first round pick in 2012 out of high school in Puerto Rico. After an unspectacular 2013 season in Cedar Rapids, Berrios was the top pitcher in the Twins farm system in 2014. He pitched at three levels and combined to go 12-8 with a 2.76 ERA and a 1.11 WHIP in 25 starts. At Ft. Myers, he went 9-3 with a 1.96 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP. He started the Florida State League All- Star game and the Futures game. He was promoted to AA, and when the Rochester Red Wings needed a starter on the final weekend of the season, they went to Berrios. At 6-0 and just 185 pounds, Berrios throws hard, topping out at 96. He has a sharp breaking ball as well as a very good changeup. He has good control and struck out a batter per inning over the season. He will likely begin 2015 in Chattanooga, but it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that we could see Berrios in a Twins uniform sometime in 2015.

    #2 – Miguel Sano – 21 – 3B – Did Not Play

    We all had hoped to see Sano with the big league club sometime in 2014. However, in the first spring training intra-squad game, a slow-roller to third base was fielded by Sano. He made an off-balance throw to first base, and his elbow popped. Less than two weeks later, he had Tommy John surgery and missed the entire season. He rehabbed in Ft. Myers and hopes to get some at-bats in the second half of the Dominican Winter League before heading back to spring training. Coming in to the season, he was Baseball America’s #6 prospect in baseball. At 6-4 and 255 pounds, he has elite power potential. He’ll strike out, but he will also take some walks. He is a very good athlete who has a cannon for an arm. It will be interesting to see how his arm returns to playing shape. Despite the injury, he’s still just 21 years old. He still could debut in 2015, though we need to remember that he missed an entire year of development.

    #1 – Byron Buxton – 20 – OF – Ft. Myers Miracle/New Britain Rock Cats

    There was a chance that we would have seen Byron Buxton in Target Field (and not just in the Futures game). Unfortunately, it was a tough season for baseball’s top prospect. He represented himself well in big league camp, but in a minor league spring training game, he hurt his wrist making a diving catch. When he came back, he hurt it again and missed more time. Then he was hit on the other wrist with a pitch and missed time. He moved up to New Britain, where he likely would have started if not for the injury. In his first game, he collided with Mike Kvasnicka and suffered a concussion that cost him the rest of his season. Fortunately, he has been cleared to play in the Arizona Fall League. Kris Bryant may take over the #1 prospect list, but Buxton remains an upper echelon prospect in the game. He can hit for average and take walks. He has the potential to hit for a lot of power. He is one of the fastest base runners in baseball. He is a potential gold glove centerfielder with a great arm. He has confidence and humility. At the same time, he doesn’t just want to be a very good player. He wants to be great.

    So, what do you think of Part 5, the Twins Top 10 Prospects?

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    Also Duffy and Rogers are well established at AA this year meaning they could show enough to warrant a big league promotion as early as next year.  We should be looking at the following pitching options available for next year.

     

    Meyer

    May

    Berrios

    Duffy

    Rogers

     

    Do we really need to sign or trade for a pitcher for those last 2 slots in the rotation?

     

    I would add Jason Wheeler to this list.  These six need to be in the mix for 2015. At least at some point during the season.

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    Still, does anyone have a take on why so many Twins prospects have good velocity but can't miss bats? ... What's causing the failure here? Philosophy? Mechanics?

    Maybe this isn't even the interpretation that's happening here, but I never put stock in "peak" or "touches" velocity remarks. This is always what people refer to, but is rarely where they pitch even 5% of the time. So while Rogers might be able to reach back and hit 95 occasionally, I'd bet he really is 90-92 over a game.

     

    Look at Trevor May. Notes on this site and elsewhwere say "mid 90's fastball," but he was 91-93 in all the games I watched.

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    Seth. I've been wondering about something. How comparable do you see Jorge Polanco & Danny Santana. Both are young primarily SS-types -- at least in the minors. We obviously got to see a lot of Santana at Target Field and he was mostly in centerfield. If I told you only one would be with the Twins four of five years from now, would you guess it to be Polanco or Santana. Obviously they could both be with the Twins and one at another position. 

     

    Great question. Well, coming into this year, I think I had Polanco ranked 6th or 7th and Danny Santana at about 15th. 

     

    I think that Polanco has a better chance of sustaining things because he has a much better approach at the plate than Santana... at least in terms of willingness to take walks. Polanco needs another year to just get a little stronger, but he can be a similar type of hitter with better strike zone judgment. 

     

    That said, what I personally learned about Santana is that as much as he doesn't like to walk much, he does seem to know the strike zone. When he gets a pitch he can get, he attacks it, and that's fun to  see.

     

    Polanco has is a better fielder and Santana has a significantly better arm.

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    Still, does anyone have a take on why so many Twins prospects have good velocity but can't miss bats?  Rogers, Stewart, Brett Lee, Tyler Duffey, Ryan Eades, Brian Gilbert, Fernando Romero and Aaron Slegers come to mind.  What are we missing? Minor league hitters tend to strike out a ton, even if there isn't a lot of movement on the pitches.  What's causing the failure here? Philosophy? Mechanics?

     

    I suspect that many reports of velocity readings in the minor leagues are trumped up.  Probably not the whole story, but it could be part of it.

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    This would be an interesting way to do the list.  instead of top 50 wee could show the top players at each position. of course this only is interesting when we are deep in minor leaguers.

     

    Also Duffy and Rogers are well established at AA this year meaning they could show enough to warrant a big league promotion as early as next year.  We should be looking at the following pitching options available for next year.

     

    Meyer

    May

    Berrios

    Duffy

    Rogers

     

    Do we really need to sign or trade for a pitcher for those last 2 slots in the rotation?

    On both points:

    The TD Offseason Handbook includes organizational depth charts for each position. It’s one of the first sections I look at when I get my copy. I started jotting a few names down, as well, for a few positions, but it’s kind of premature to do until we know which minor league free agents the Twins re-sign. A number of AA and AAA guys could either elect to go elsewhere or not be offered contracts by the Twins and that would affect those depth charts.

     

    There’s no point in looking at starting pitcher “depth,” if by that we mean potential #4/5 starters. If that’s the likely spot for any guy you’re looking at signing or trading for, don’t bother. Let some of these guys get a few starts with the Twins in 2015 instead.

     

    But if we’re looking at landing one of the big fish via FA or trade, then the presence of the guys listed shouldn’t stop you from doing so. Landing a new #1 pushes Hughes, Gibson, et al, down a slot, so you tell these younger pitchers they’ll need to beat out someone a bit more established. Makes them beat someone out instead of just competing for an “open” rotation spot.

     

    That’s how rotations improve, not by simply cycling new arms through the #4/5 spots.

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    Good lists Seth even if I think you are crazy for putting rogers that high.

     

    I know I'm in the minority but I still have Stewart at #3. Best mix of stuff, athleticism, and size. Stewart is the only one out of our top three pitching prospects that profiles as an ace.

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    Good lists Seth even if I think you are crazy for putting rogers that high.

     

    I know I'm in the minority but I still have Stewart at #3. Best mix of stuff, athleticism, and size. Stewart is the only one out of our top three pitching prospects that profiles as an ace.

    I need to be careful not to have this sound like I'm arguing "against" Stewart because I like him a lot and definitely believe he has top of the rotation potential.

     

    That said, I wonder how much of our "ranking" of him, compared to others, is influenced by his high position in the draft.

     

    Watching him this season in the same rotation with Hu, Thorpe and Gonsalves, made me realize I just don't see any reason why any one of them should be considered much more probable to find himself at the top of a rotation in the future.

     

    Hu and Thorpe were international signings. Thorpe would have graduated from HS this past spring if he'd been in the US. Pretty good bet he'd have been a high pick. Gonsalves projected (I believe) as a 1st or 2nd round draft pick the same year as Stewart but fell due to some "character" issues that turned out to be total BS. Hu is a year older (he can legally buy a beer here in a month) and definitely more advanced in development at this point.

     

    I'm not sure if that means we're ranking Stewart too high or the others not high enough. Just saying there isn't much difference between them in my book.

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    The velo vs. K question is intriguing, but I've been more curious about whether there's any truth to the notion that the Twins bring up pitchers through the minors with a tendency to have lower K numbers that are NOT related to a lack of talent.

     

    I don't know if any conclusions can be drawn in absolute terms from this, but I thought it was interesting:

     

    AAA Rochester

    Team ERA  3.53 2nd of 14 teams

    Team WHIP 1.29 3rd of 14

    Team SO: 2nd of 14

     

    AA New Britain

    ERA 6/12

    WHIP 6/12

    SO   4/12

     

    A+ Ft Myers

    ERA 4/12

    WHIP  6/12

    SO   8/12

     

    A- Cedar Rapids

    ERA  9/16

    WHIP  4/16

    SO   5/16

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    Yes. If it's a true #1. Definitely no more middle to back-end guys.

     

    I doubt we'll be signing a Lester or Shields, so yeah, I'd rather develop the young guys. I'm looking at 2017 before being able to legitimately contend,so try to get Meyer and Berrios ready to be 1-2 starters by then.

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    This would be an interesting way to do the list.  instead of top 50 wee could show the top players at each position. of course this only is interesting when we are deep in minor leaguers.

     

    Also Duffy and Rogers are well established at AA this year meaning they could show enough to warrant a big league promotion as early as next year.  We should be looking at the following pitching options available for next year.

     

    Meyer

    May

    Berrios

    Duffy

    Rogers

     

    Do we really need to sign or trade for a pitcher for those last 2 slots in the rotation?

    I agree with the other two posters that if we get anything it should be top of the rotation. Kind of wish we didn't have Nolasco. I am more patient than most and would be happy if our rotation at mid year was Hughes, Meyer, Berrios, May and Gibson and in that order. I want another guy at the top but want to see these young guys we have been reading about get their chance even if it means taking a few lumps. I would never give up on a team before a year is even started and can imagine us being competitive but the odds are next year isn't our year anyway.

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    I don't think comparing guys to Duensing should be the insult some intend it to be. He had a 3.31 ERA this year. He had a 10-3 record with a 2.62 ERA over 130 innings in 2010. I see so often posters say prospects might never develop enough even to get a cup of coffee in the bigs I don't think it is such an insult to say your #9 prospect might be a league average pitcher. I know we would all like to have a system made up of only future all stars but Duensing came up big in two of our division championships. There's a place for those guys as well.

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    OK, for the fun of it:

     

    Looking back, who would you swap out?

     

    1. Buxton v. Hicks

    2. Sano v. Revere

    3. Berrios v. Valencia

    4. Stewart v. Ramos

    5. Meyer v. Angel Morales

    6. Gordon v. Swarzak

    7. Polanco v. Gutierrez

    8. May v. Bromberg

    9. Rogers v. Mulvey

    10. Burdi v. Tosoni

     

    When I posted a similar list for #'s 11-20 I think a couple of my pals here thought I was trying to make a point. What a beautiful list we have here in 2014 compared to what we had to work with  four+ years ago. That's the point of the exercise. 

     

    But I suppose lots of varied conclusions might be drawn from it. Here are some things I personally would or would NOT conclude from comparing the two groups:

     

    1. I would not give the GM very much credit for the improvement, as there are about five dozen employees contributing to the scouting, drafting, signing, and development process.

     

    2. I would not conclude that the Twins are way way better than other teams at this stuff.

     

    3. I would conclude that, contrary to frequent opinions posted here, the Twins are pretty damn good at this stuff now.

     

    4. I would conclude that draft order has both positive and negative influence on what the list looks like, and to pass judgment on an organization's performance without considering this hugely clouds the truth.

     

    5. I would conclude that the fairly common generalization about overrated prospects, that "well remember, we thought player X was pretty good back then, so..." doesn't stand up to scrutiny very well. For example, I don't think anyone thought that Swarzak and Bromberg had similar ceilings to, say May and Meyer, or that Valencia was going to ever be more than a serviceable starter at best. 

     

    6. I would conclude that neither list supports or refutes an argument for trading prospects for established MLB players. 

     

    7. I would conclude that the very top prospects very very frequently end up performing within the articulated range of expectations. For example, Swarzak was thought to have a ceiling of back-end starter and a floor of mop up guy.

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    My 2 cents on the high-velocity, low K pitchers is the following:

    1)  Their FB is their best pitch and they "ride it hard"--but it isn't a great FB.

    2)  Their secondary pitches aren't good enough.  Breaking balls and change-ups are more likely to fetch Ks than FBs--if they're good enough.

    3)  Twins pitchers are coached to "be aggressive; attack the strike zone", etc

    4)  Those pitchers "that don't throw enough strikes" face career change--everybody notices.

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    Not only a very impressive and exciting list, but there is a very, very good chance that 5 of the Twins top 10 prospects should at least spend some time with the Twins in 2015, with the possibility of any or all graduating to legitimate, full time major leaguer!

     

    May should be part of the rotation out of ST barring something unexpected. I don't know about anyone else, but I was pretty impressed after the first few starts once he settled down. When he learns a bit more consistency, and can economize his pitches a bit more, I think he has a real chance to be a quality starter. Like a lot of youngsters, he seemed to suffer from bouts of "put them away" disease at times. The cure comes with experience. If he becomes a really nice 3 that's a really good thing. But I do find to odd to pigeon hole such a young talent so early with expectations.

     

    Meyer is sooo close, and should be up at some point, if not right away. Sano and Buxton have rust to shake off, especially Sano, and it's hard to predict when either could/should be up. But their immense talent trumps all, and they should be up at some time.

     

    Burdi is fascinating. I don't agree with rushing any young player. But that being said, I really believe we could be looking at a fast riser who could be up June or July. That's 5 of 10 with real shots to make it at some point. Berrios could have a shot, and I'm a big fan and believer, but hopefully there is no reason to rush him. Duffy could have a shot at some point, but again, hopefully no reason to rush him. Polanco and Rosario shouldn't be counted out, but again...

     

    Don't fall asleep on Melotakis. I'm very anxious to see what he does in the AFL.

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    I don't think comparing guys to Duensing should be the insult some intend it to be. He had a 3.31 ERA this year. He had a 10-3 record with a 2.62 ERA over 130 innings in 2010. I see so often posters say prospects might never develop enough even to get a cup of coffee in the bigs I don't think it is such an insult to say your #9 prospect might be a league average pitcher. I know we would all like to have a system made up of only future all stars but Duensing came up big in two of our division championships. There's a place for those guys as well.

     

    Correct. If a couple of these 50 turn into Brian Duensing, that would be helpful! I have him ranked ninth, which generally is going to be mid-to back of the rotation, decent regulars, etc. Duensing's had a terrific career already. I definitely don't take a Duensing comp as a negative at all.

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    If the Twins cut ties with Duensing, Swarzak and Burton like they should, I think Burdi has a legit chance to break camp with the Twins. No reason to hold him down.

    I'd keep Duensing around.  He's been a very good left-handed resource.  Swarzak would have been gone a long time ago if there was a legit replacement.  He's just another one of those guys desperately wants to be a starter, but isn't.  Burton has had his moments.  Now those moments are over.  Clean sweep time!

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    I'd keep Duensing around.  He's been a very good left-handed resource.  Swarzak would have been gone a long time ago if there was a legit replacement.  He's just another one of those guys desperately wants to be a starter, but isn't.  Burton has had his moments.  Now those moments are over.  Clean sweep time!

    Swarzak has served his purpose of being a durable mid relief guy and spot starter. He also had a really, really good year in 2013. A reliever that gets into 50 games and throws 100 innings is a bullpen saver.
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    I also think May is going to be pretty good. Nearly 9 SO/9 What I did notice is that his bad pitches were really, really bad. Getting ahead 0-2 and then throwing two pitches 5 feet in front of home is just wasting two pitches. The batter needs to at least be tempted to swing at the pitch. A golfer gets better when his worst shots become better. May throws enough great pitches. He just throws too many really bad pitches.

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    I also think May is going to be pretty good. Nearly 9 SO/9 What I did notice is that his bad pitches were really, really bad. Getting ahead 0-2 and then throwing two pitches 5 feet in front of home is just wasting two pitches. The batter needs to at least be tempted to swing at the pitch. A golfer gets better when his worst shots become better. May throws enough great pitches. He just throws too many really bad pitches.

     

    I think May really took some strides this year. I remember his interview on Talk to Contact before spring training, and hearing him talk about pitching, you just knew that he was going to be OK. I think last year at this time, I personally had him ranked #12 or so. I still think he's more #3-#4 starter, but that's nothing to sneeze at, at all!

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    AAA Rochester

    Team ERA  3.53 2nd of 14 teams

    Team WHIP 1.29 3rd of 14

    Team SO: 2nd of 14

     

    AA New Britain

    ERA 6/12

    WHIP 6/12

    SO   4/12

     

    A+ Ft Myers

    ERA 4/12

    WHIP  6/12

    SO   8/12

     

    A- Cedar Rapids

    ERA  9/16

    WHIP  4/16

    SO   5/16

     

    Good research.  Not surprised about Rochester with May and Meyer.  Even the soft tossing AAAA types seem to do well with strikeouts.  I'm not surprised Ft. Myers is low.  NB surprises me though.  As far as ERA and WHIP go they are average and I would have guessed they were above average yet the strikeouts are above average and I'd have guessed the opposite.  CR also surprises me as those starters dodn't seem to miss many bats, I'm guessing the releivers are significantly helping that rating, only Thorpe could manage a respectable K rate in that rotation.

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    Good research.  Not surprised about Rochester with May and Meyer.  Even the soft tossing AAAA types seem to do well with strikeouts.  I'm not surprised Ft. Myers is low.  NB surprises me though.  As far as ERA and WHIP go they are average and I would have guessed they were above average yet the strikeouts are above average and I'd have guessed the opposite.  CR also surprises me as those starters dodn't seem to miss many bats, I'm guessing the releivers are significantly helping that rating, only Thorpe could manage a respectable K rate in that rotation.

    The CR bullpen absolutely drove the K rate. But starters Gonsalves, Batts and, to a lsser degree, Hu, got their share of Ks after they arrived, in addition to Thorpe.

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    When I talked to Garver the other day, he talked about how Arteaga has pitchers working on pitching up in the strike zone for the purposes of getting strikeouts. 

     

    Which is the new practice, since hitters have been taught to hit the low pitch for the last 5-10 years, they aren't as good with the high pitch (that's the meme I read on line anyway).

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    I agree with the other two posters that if we get anything it should be top of the rotation. Kind of wish we didn't have Nolasco. I am more patient than most and would be happy if our rotation at mid year was Hughes, Meyer, Berrios, May and Gibson and in that order. I want another guy at the top but want to see these young guys we have been reading about get their chance even if it means taking a few lumps. I would never give up on a team before a year is even started and can imagine us being competitive but the odds are next year isn't our year anyway.

     

     

    Agreed. 

     

     

    Rotation:

     

    Hughes

    Gibson

    May

    Meyer

    Berrios

     

    Relievers:

     

    Pressly

    Burdii

    Thompson

    Cederoth

    Milone

    Theilbar

    Perkins

     

     

    Lineup:

     

    Santana (SS)

    Buxton (CF)

    Dozier (2B)

    Vargas (DH)

    Mauer (1B)

    Arcia (RF)

    Plouffe / Sano (3B)

    Suzuki / Pinto ©

    Hicks/Schafer (LF)

     

    Bench:

     

    Pinto

    Escobar

    Schafer

    Parmelee

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    I'd keep Duensing around.  He's been a very good left-handed resource.  Swarzak would have been gone a long time ago if there was a legit replacement.  He's just another one of those guys desperately wants to be a starter, but isn't.  Burton has had his moments.  Now those moments are over.  Clean sweep time!

     

    I'd be more inclined to non-tender Duensing.  Not a huge fan, especially considering he'll be looking at a 3 million arbitration number this winter.  Rather go with a Logan Darnell as a long relief/ swing guy out of the pen.   I do agree with buying out Burton however.  His spot looks tailor made for Burdi.

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    Rotation:

     

    Hughes

    Gibson

    May

    Meyer

    Berrios

     

    Relievers:

     

    Pressly

    Burdii

    Thompson

    Cederoth

    Milone

    Theilbar

    Perkins

     

     

    Lineup:

     

    Santana (SS)

    Buxton (CF)

    Dozier (2B)

    Vargas (DH)

    Mauer (1B)

    Arcia (RF)

    Plouffe / Sano (3B)

    Suzuki / Pinto ©

    Hicks/Schafer (LF)

     

    Bench:

     

    Pinto

    Escobar

    Schafer

    Parmelee

     

    I think you may be pushing Cederoth by a year or two.  Was only at Elizabethton last year.

     

    Buxton & Berrios probably mid-late 2015 at earliest.

     

    Like the ideas though.

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    Here is how I see next year starting out:

     

    Hughes

    Nolasco

    Gibson

    Pitcher we trade for

    May

     

    Meyer

    then Berrios

     

    I see us non-tendering or including Millone in the trade for the starting pitcher 

    Millone, Escobar, and (Deunsing or Swarzak or something else) for Latos or Leake, or cinninatti has 3 or 4 pitchers one year away from FA.  Millone can be a replacement for them under team control a few years. 

     

    Perkins

    Fien

    Pressly

    Deunsing (unless traded)

    Theibar (though he didn't get used a lot towards the end of the season)

    Tonkin

    Burdi

    Swarak (if he not non tendered and go with 8 relievers)

     

    Lineup:

     

    Santana (SS)

    Buxton (CF)

    Dozier (2B)

    Vargas (DH)

    Mauer (1B)

    Arcia (RF)

    Plouffe / Sano (3B)

    Suzuki / Pinto ©

    Hicks/Schafer (LF)

     

    Bench:

     

    Pinto

    Escobar / Nunez (if Escobar is traded)

    Schafer

    Parmelee

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    I do agree with buying out Burton however.  

    Ditto.  A team option on him was a win-win for the team.  I don't know if I understand why any player would accept a contract containing one.

     

    Likewise I don't understand why a team agrees to a contract containing a player option.  Win-win for the player if whether he does terribly or outstandingly.

     

    But I digress... :)

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