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    Cody Christie

    Baseball is a game of streaks. Hitting streaks, winning streaks, and a pile of other streaks are all part of the game. After taking their last four games, the Lookouts entered play on Tuesday with their longest winning streak since last August. Tyler Jay was on the mound for Fort Myers and he hadn't given up a run in his last two appearances while lowering his ERA to close to 3.00.

    Would either of these streaks continue on Tuesday? You'll have to read on to find out.

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    RED WINGS REPORT

    Rochester 9, Charlotte 3

    Box Score

    Rochester's offense exploded for seven runs in the first four frames as the team collected 12 hits in the game. Every batter in the lineup had a hit with the exception of Max Kepler. Tommy Field led the way with a pair of home runs while finishing 3-for-4 with four RBI. Kennys Vargas belted his fifth home run of the season as part of a multi-hit effort. Stephen Wickens also joined the home run party with a solo shot in the third.

    Andrew Albers improved to 2-0 as he was able to pitch comfortably with a lead for six innings. He worked out of a few jams as he allowed 10 hits but limited the Knights to three earned runs. He struck out three and walked one. J.T Chargois was asked to get five outs and he did so by striking out five batters. Buddy Boshers and Dan Runzler each added zeros to the scoreboard during their appearances.

    The Red Wings continue to hover around the .500 mark and now sit at 21-18 after winning three of their last four games. Few teams are gaining much separation in the International League North as Rochester is one of three teams tied for the top spot and no team is more than three games out of first.

    Roster Moves: Outfielder Robbie Grossman was signed by Minnesota and assigned to Rochester. Right-handed pitcher Jose Berrios was optioned to Rochester. In a corresponding move, left-handed pitcher Taylor Rogers was recalled by Minnesota

    CHATTANOOGA CHATTER

    Chattanooga 7, Biloxi 9

    Box Score

    The Lookouts tried their best to keep their winning streak alive but an early five-run deficit was too much to overcome. Aaron Slegers got hit around for seven runs on nine hits including two long balls. He struck out three and walked two on the way to his fourth loss. Luke Westphal was called on and allowed two earned runs in three frames. Mason Melotakis and Mike Strong finished the last two innings without allowing a run but they combined to walk three without a strikeout.

    Zach Granite's speed was on full display in this contest as he reached base three times including a triple and had his 17th stolen base. Joe Maloney went 3-for-5 with a double and two runs scored. Travis Harrison didn't collect a hit but he did get walked three times. Daniel Palka was the only player on the team not to reach base in the game.

    The loss drops the Lookouts to 18-21 which is good enough for third place in the Southern League North. They are five games behind the Jackson Generals for the top spot. Chattanooga has still won seven of their last 11 and they have a quick turn-around with any early Wednesday game.

    MIRACLE MATTERS

    Ft. Myers 0, Dunedin 4

    Box Score

    Fort Myers was held to three hits as the Blue Jays cruised to an easy 4-0 shutout. Tanner Witt and Edgar Corcino both went 1-for-4 with a double but neither man made it around to score. Austin Diemer had the team's other hit, a single. Overall, the team left four runners on base and went 0-for-5 with runners in scoring position.

    Tyler Jay suffered his third loss but he still pitched great. Over six innings of work, he allowed one earned run on four hits with six strikeouts and two walks. In his last three starts, he has pitched 19.1 innings and only allowed one earned run while striking out 19. John Curtiss gave up three runs in his inning of work to add to the Dunedin lead. Luke Bard struck out two in the eighth frame.

    With the loss, the Miracle dropped to 22-17 on the season. This was the team's third loss in the last five games but the club still sits atop the standings in the Florida State League South.

    KERNELS NUGGETS

    Cedar Rapids 3, Beloit 5

    Box Score

    The Kernels found themselves in an early 3-0 hole and they spent most of the game trying to dig their way out. Cody Stashak started for Cedar Rapids and was charged with three earned runs over six innings. He struck out two and walked none. It was the fourth straight start where he has pitched into the sixth frame while allowing two earned runs or fewer. Sam Gibbons surrendered two earned runs as he walked three across two innings. Michael Cederoth struck out two in a perfect ninth.

    Cedar Rapids went 1-for-8 with runners in scoring position and left six runners on base. Daniel Kihle was the only batter with more than one hit. He finished the night 2-for-4 with two runs scored. J.J. Fernandez had the team's only extra base hit, a double, but he also struck out three times. LaMonte Wade reached base three times in four plate appearances.

    Following the loss, the Kernels dropped to 20-17 and sit two games back of Clinton for the top spot in the Midwest League Western Division. The Snappers are only one game behind the Kernels so tomorrow's game is important and Cedar Rapids send Randy LeBlanc and his 0.90 ERA to the mound.

    TWINS DAILY PLAYERS OF THE DAY

    Twins Daily Minor League Pitcher of the Day- Tyler Jay, Fort Myers Miracle

    Twins Daily Minor League Hitter of the Day- Tommy Field, Rochester Red Wings

    WEDNESDAY'S PROBABLE STARTERS

    Rochester @ Charlotte (6:05 CST)- RHP David Martinez (1-3, 5.14 ERA)

    Chattanooga vs. Biloxi (10:15 am CST)- RHP Ryan Eades (2-2, 5.00 ERA)

    Fort Myers @ Dunedin (5:30 CST)- RHP Keaton Steele (1-3, 4.01 ERA)

    Cedar Rapids vs. Beloit (6:35 CST)- RHP Randy LeBlanc (4-2, 0.90 ERA)

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    Spent the last two nights in Charlotte, watching Rochester. I really like Kepler's swing. Crushed the triple to dead center last night and hit a rope to the wall tonight that Charlotte LF made a nice running catch on. Topped several pitches, just a tad aggressive on breaking balls. Vargas has looked good at the plate, not so much in the field. Chargois looked strong - sat 93-95, topped out at 96. A few flat breaking balls but that's picking nits. I believe he has now retired 13 hitters in AAA, 12 by K. That's impressive at any level. He's ready for a taste. Milone topped out at 85. Commanded his breaking balls, BP fastball. Grossman was already in lineup tonight. Field hit several balls hard, 2nd HR tonight over 400'. Britton hit one through box tonight, possibly fractured the starting pitchers elbow. Walker played last night, couldn't hit a breaking ball with a boat paddle. Walked twice on pitches that could have gone either way. Meyer was out for national anthem tonight. Buxton signed a bunch from the corner of dugout.

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    Brett Lee pitched vs Chatanooga yesterday.  Good luck to him

    Francisco Rios pitched for the Blue Jays vs Fort Myers.  Their young stud pitching prospect dominated Low A ball as a 21 year old, instead of holding him at Low A in the hopes they could secure a playoff spot, the Blue Jays promoted him to High A.

     

    Thats a novel approach.  

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    Checked gameday yesterday in the middle of the Miracle game and saw that Jay was very efficient early on, needing only 40 pitches to get through 4 innings. The fifth was where he ran into a bit of trouble and surrendered his lone run on two singles and two walks. But he bounced back with a 1-2-3 sixth. He was still only at 81 pitches after six. Very strong outing.

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    Spent the last two nights in Charlotte, watching Rochester. I really like Kepler's swing. Crushed the triple to dead center last night and hit a rope to the wall tonight that Charlotte LF made a nice running catch on. Topped several pitches, just a tad aggressive on breaking balls. Vargas has looked good at the plate, not so much in the field. Chargois looked strong - sat 93-95, topped out at 96. A few flat breaking balls but that's picking nits. I believe he has now retired 13 hitters in AAA, 12 by K. That's impressive at any level. He's ready for a taste. Milone topped out at 85. Commanded his breaking balls, BP fastball. Grossman was already in lineup tonight. Field hit several balls hard, 2nd HR tonight over 400'. Britton hit one through box tonight, possibly fractured the starting pitchers elbow. Walker played last night, couldn't hit a breaking ball with a boat paddle. Walked twice on pitches that could have gone either way. Meyer was out for national anthem tonight. Buxton signed a bunch from the corner of dugout.

     

    That liner from Britton off the pitcher's elbow was scary. That was crushed and bounced all the way to second base. The second baseman started out toward it but couldn't get to it. Immediately he turned to the mound and had his hand on his head. Britton hustled to second base, but as soon as time was called, you could see he was visibly distraught too. Very scary. 

     

    That radar gun must have been 2-3 mph slow, huh? 

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    Is it true that Chargois has 12 strikeouts of the 13 outs he has recorded since moving up to AAA?  Maybe a couple more weeks of this and we will see him at Target Field.

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    We reported 4-5 days ago that he's got shoulder fatigue and hopes to pitch again this week. Or, are you referring to something else?

    Seth, it should probably be noted that since that report, Rochester has announced starters through Saturday and Meyer isn't among them.  Berrios is rejoining the team too and would be in line to start Sunday, before an off day Monday.  Unless he works out of the pen, Meyer is unlikely to appear before Tuesday May 24 at the earliest.

     

    According to this report, Meyer was supposed to throw sometime over the past couple days with an eye toward returning sooner:

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/baseball/blogs/extra-bases/2016/05/16/meyer-should-rejoin-wings-rotation-trip-south/84449392/

     

     

    I wonder if he's still having shoulder problems?

     

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    Is it true that Chargois has 12 strikeouts of the 13 outs he has recorded since moving up to AAA?

    Apparently, yes.  24.9 K/9.  And I thought his start at AA was pretty good --- 9 K's in 5 perfect innings to start the year.  Looked much more mortal over his next 6 games, but his results at AAA suggest he was still worthy of promotion.

     

    If he continues pitching well, I think he could/should be up around June 1st.

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    Seth, it should probably be noted that since that report, Rochester has announced starters through Saturday and Meyer isn't among them.  Berrios is rejoining the team too and would be in line to start Sunday, before an off day Monday.  Unless he works out of the pen, Meyer is unlikely to appear before Tuesday May 24 at the earliest.

     

    According to this report, Meyer was supposed to throw sometime over the past couple days with an eye toward returning sooner:

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/baseball/blogs/extra-bases/2016/05/16/meyer-should-rejoin-wings-rotation-trip-south/84449392/

     

     

    I wonder if he's still having shoulder problems?

     

    I would assume so. It's not like shoulder issue recovery is on a certain time table. Have to play it by ear.

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    Apparently, yes.  24.9 K/9.  And I thought his start at AA was pretty good --- 9 K's in 5 perfect innings to start the year.  Looked much more mortal over his next 6 games, but his results at AAA suggest he was still worthy of promotion.

     

    If he continues pitching well, I think he could/should be up around June 1st.

     

    And inserted directly into the closer role, whether the manager is comfortable with it or not.

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    And inserted directly into the closer role, whether the manager is comfortable with it or not.

     

    Molitor? Use a rookie out of the bullpen as closer? Uh, have you watched this season and last?

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    That liner from Britton off the pitcher's elbow was scary. That was crushed and bounced all the way to second base. The second baseman started out toward it but couldn't get to it. Immediately he turned to the mound and had his hand on his head. Britton hustled to second base, but as soon as time was called, you could see he was visibly distraught too. Very scary. 

     

    That radar gun must have been 2-3 mph slow, huh? 

    Stadium gun but looked pretty consistent.

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    Brett Lee pitched vs Chatanooga yesterday.  Good luck to him

    Francisco Rios pitched for the Blue Jays vs Fort Myers.  Their young stud pitching prospect dominated Low A ball as a 21 year old, instead of holding him at Low A in the hopes they could secure a playoff spot, the Blue Jays promoted him to High A.

     

    Thats a novel approach.  

     

    If Fernando Romero, Lewis Thorpe, or someone else had pitched 30 innings at Cedar Rapids to the tune of 8BB/43K and a 0.97 WHIP, like Francisco Rios did, do you really think they'd be held back because someone was worried about the standings? Such nonsense.

     

    Toronto is novel though, in that they don't have a lot of talent potentially reducing some openings upstream. This is in contrast to the Twins, who have Stewart, Gonsalves, Jay, Rosario, and others at High A. And I know some think those guys are wallowing around a level below where they should be, but a very sound argument can be made for why each of them has been best served so far doing their growing in Fort Myers. Advancement will come, and it has never been stymied one iota because someone was worried about the playoffs.

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    If Fernando Romero, Lewis Thorpe, or someone else had pitched 30 innings at Cedar Rapids to the tune of 8BB/43K and a 0.97 WHIP, like Francisco Rios did, do you really think they'd be held back because someone was worried about the standings? Such nonsense.

     

    Toronto is novel though, in that they don't have a lot of talent potentially reducing some openings upstream. This is in contrast to the Twins, who have Stewart, Gonsalves, Jay, Rosario, and others at High A. And I know some think those guys are wallowing around a level below where they should be, but a very sound argument can be made for why each of them has been best served so far doing their growing in Fort Myers. Advancement will come, and it has never been stymied one iota because someone was worried about the playoffs.

     

    This is not consistent with what we've heard quoted about mid-season call ups for teams that play in split seasons, or with comments on other teams near the ends of years. We have heard several times that the minor league playoffs matter. From Seth quoting the Twins......so, ya, I don't think we'll agree on this.

     

    And no, I can't find links from previous years with those quotes, I don't go around saving stuff for fun.....

     

    As for the high A staff.....how long would you wait to promote Gonsalves? How many more starts? What is the he learning right now, by completely dominating and not having to adjust?

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    I don't really want them to promote these guys up to AA until after the break. I don't believe in the FSL numbers at all, but at least they are building confidence for the time they are there. 

     

    Why not? Being in a pitchers' league doesn't matter if your results are based on strikeouts and ground outs........

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    Toronto is novel though, in that they don't have a lot of talent potentially reducing some openings upstream.

    This is mostly true about Toronto, which currently has a weaker minor league system, although I'm not sure how novel it is. It is also instructive. Before the start of last season, Toronto had a stacked minor league system for pitching. Two were promoted to the majors and played key roles in the bullpen for a playoff team, and several others were traded for star players, like Tulowitzki, Price and Donaldson (note: more expensive but also much more valuable than Jepsen). Both of those actions appear better than old fashioned lock-step promotion. Also, the Twins don't have a lot of talent reducing openings upstream in AA and AAA.

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    Why not? Being in a pitchers' league doesn't matter if your results are based on strikeouts and ground outs........

    You're assuming that players don't change their approach (intentionally or unintentionally) due to the conditions.  In the FSL, power hitters might try selling out more in a futile attempt to hit HR and increase their K's; other hitters might try to hit the ball on the ground more rather than in the air.  Pitchers too can throw differently to get K's and groundouts without the fear of the HR.

     

    I wouldn't be opposed to promoting a few of the better Ft Myers starters right now, but I'm also not totally sold on their numbers either.

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    Why not? Being in a pitchers' league doesn't matter if your results are based on strikeouts and ground outs........

    You're right about looking at the K% and BB% yes, but care a little less about GB% personally. It is nice to have a high GB%, but I really only see it as great when the guy also has a good K% otherwise you are just going to rely on good luck and bad luck days where everything is hit at someone, or just sneaks through or over someones head (Gibson and other non-strikeout gb pitchers.) 

     

    I DO think that the FSL staff is doing well, but am just personally afraid to see what happens to them once they get brought up. It jus feels nice to look at their numbers right now and have some hope and I just don't want that to fade after their call-ups. 

     

    Stewarts last four starts or so seem more of the FSL environment, than his early season high K% process. Seems to have fallen back a bit lately in the dominant ways and more relying on pitch to contact success.

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    So the Twins will prematurely add Berrios to the 40 man roster, just so they can give him a super short leash (4 starts).

    But, they can't promote Gonsalves to AA until they are sure he'll stick there?

    Don't those seem a little contradictory?

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    This is not consistent with what we've heard quoted about mid-season call ups for teams that play in split seasons, or with comments on other teams near the ends of years. We have heard several times that the minor league playoffs matter. From Seth quoting the Twins......so, ya, I don't think we'll agree on this.

     

    And no, I can't find links from previous years with those quotes, I don't go around saving stuff for fun.....

     

    As for the high A staff.....how long would you wait to promote Gonsalves? How many more starts? What is the he learning right now, by completely dominating and not having to adjust?

     

    Just defending myself...

     

    I think the Twins have promoted more players this year than I've seen in years. I would also say that there's nothing wrong with being kind to the affiliates. For instance, the year Sano and Rosario were in Ft. Myers, they maybe could have been sent up to AA a week or two earlier than they were, but the Miracle was close to clinching a playoff spot, so they kept them until the day after the team clinched a spot. I have no problem with that, especially with hitters.

     

    I'd have Gonsalves up now (having watched zero of his innings so far this year, only listened and reviewed box scores and chatted a bit with him and others), but if he's not up within the next two weeks, might as well make it three weeks. We're talking 3-4 starts. 

     

    I'm sure there are a couple of other examples... For me, the only one that should absolutely be up a level (in addition to Gonsalves) is LeBlanc. I can't explain the reasons. I can guess, and base some stuff on history. 

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    It's not a tragedy that they aren't up yet......I just don't agree with Wade and Gonsalves being where they are still. It will be a tragedy in a month or so......if they keep this up. There is no on the level above them that should be stopping them from going up.

     

    It's a matter of disagreeing at this point....not some national emergency (see my sig.....).

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