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    Lucas Seehafer

    The doldrums of August have arrived, the Minnesota Twins are firmly outside of the playoff picture, and fans' eyes have begun to aim their gaze with increasing amounts of intensity towards the offseason. While free agency and trades most often dominate the conversation during the winter, another topic of conversation quietly drums on in the background: the 40-man roster.

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    The Twins will be faced with several decisions during the offseason concerning the makeup of their roster, beginning with who's placed on and removed from the 40-man. While it may seem as though the team will be confronted with many impossible decisions, the fact of the matter is that the Twins are well-positioned to add critical prospects to the 40-man without losing much in the way of established talent and productivity. 

    Below is a discussion of the Twins 40-man roster, primarily regarding their top prospects. Twins Daily's most recent Top 30 prospect list was used for reference. 

    Already on the 40-man

    • Jordan Balazovic, RHP
    • Jhoan Duran, RHP
    • Drew Strotman, RHP
    • Gilberto Celestino, OF
    • Edwar Colina, RHP
    • Brent Rooker, OF/DH
    • Nick Gordon, UTIL

    Of the players listed above, only Rooker's future with the team appears to be dubious. Perhaps Gordon's as well. If the Twins were to try to drop them from the 40-man — something that I don't consider to be particularly likely — they both would be claimed. While Rooker and Gordon may not remain as Twins for the long haul, Minnesota likely won't just give them away for free. The remainder of the athletes above will probably fill critical roles with the Twins, if not next summer, then in the summers to follow.

    Not eligible for Rule 5 Draft or Minor League Free Agency

    • Matt Canterino, RHP
    • Simeon Woods Richardson, RHP
    • Austin Martin, OF/SS
    • Aaron Sabato, 1B/DH
    • Keoni Cavaco, INF
    • Misael Urbina, OF
    • Matt Wallner, OF/DH
    • Alerick Soulaire, UTIL
    • Will Holland, INF
    • Marco Raya, RHP
    • Spencer Steer, INF
    • Steve Hajjar, LHP
    • Louie Varland, RHP
    • Noah Miller, INF
    • Chase Petty, RHP

    All of these guys are going to be sticking around for at least one more season, if not longer. To be eligible for the Rule 5 Draft, a player must have spent at least five seasons with the same team if they were signed or drafted during or after high school or at least four seasons if drafted out of college. To be eligible for minor league free agency, an athlete must have spent at least six full seasons with the same team. None of the players above meet the criteria, so they aren't going anywhere unless traded.

    Additionally, save for perhaps Austin Martin and Matt Canterino, it's unlikely that any of the above athletes will be promoted to the majors at any point next season. The majority are still fairly young or lack professional experience, meaning some more seasoning in the minor leagues is more than warranted. 

    40-man Locks

    • Jose Miranda, INF
    • Joe Ryan, RHP
    • Josh Winder, RHP
    • Cole Sands, RHP
    • Royce Lewis, SS/OF
    • Jovani Moran, LHP

    There's no chance that the Twins will risk losing any of these guys. Miranda has been the most impressive minor league player in the system — if not all of MiLB — and will likely slot in somewhere in the infield next season. Joe Ryan and Josh Winder will probably be among those competing for a starting rotation spot next spring. Cole Sands has dominated the minors when healthy. Royce Lewis is a potential franchise cornerstone. Jovani Moran is already an MLB-caliber reliever. While all five athletes may not make the Opening Day roster, they will all accumulate service time beginning next summer, if not sooner.

    50/50 Chance

    • Blayne Enlow, RHP
    • Chris Vallimont, RHP
    • Yennier Cano, RHP
    • Ian Hamilton, RHP
    • Yunior Severino, INF
    • Jermaine Palacios, INF

    Here's where the Twins need to make some decisions. 

    Enlow was a third-round pick in 2017 out of high school and has been phenomenal during his minor league career. However, he will miss a good chunk of next season — if not the entire season — after undergoing Tommy John surgery earlier this summer. While that may seem to disqualify him from Rule 5 consideration, a team could select Enlow and easily keep him on the 60-day IL for the entire season. Doing so would save his 40-man roster spot for another athlete and effectively eliminate the chance for Enlow to be returned to the Twins. Because of this, I would not be surprised if the Twins placed him on the 40-man rather than risk losing him for nothing.

    As I have discussed frequently, Vallimont is an enigma. He has fantastic raw stuff and strikeout numbers, but he lacks command and gives up too many free passes and runs. While he may eventually become an MLB pitcher, he isn't particularly close to being one at the moment. For this reason, I think it would be unlikely that a team would select him in the Rule 5 Draft, and, as such, I could see the Twins keeping him off their 40-man.

    Cano is an electric bullpen arm that dominated the lower minor leagues but has struggled a little bit since being promoted to Triple-A. That said, he has the raw stuff to carve out a major league career. He's already 27-years-old, but has only spent two seasons in the minors after signing as a free agent in 2019. So while he isn't eligible for the Rule 5 Draft or minor league free agency, one figures that if he's going to make it to the big leagues, he'll likely have to do it soon. I'd be surprised if we don't see him in Minneapolis at some point next season. Odds are that he won't be added to the 40-man until next season if he isn't by the end of this one.

    Both Severino and Palacios were former highly-touted prospects who failed to live up to expectations, though both have been performing exceptionally well as of late. As was the case with Vallimont, neither are ready to face MLB pitchers consistently. However, both still have a fair amount of potential, especially if their recent output remains. Palacios would be eligible for free agency if he is not rostered, while Severino would be exposed to the Rule 5 Draft. If I'm the Twins, I place Severino on the 40-man and hope I can re-sign Palacios.

    Hamilton's situation is akin to that of Palacios. He's a former highly-regarded prospect who will be eligible for free agency if not added to the 40-man. He's shown promise this season at the Triple-A level, hitting 100 mph with his fastball on multiple occasions. Frankly, it's a little surprising that the Twins haven't given him a shot to this point, and, who knows, maybe they'll do so before the summer is over. Regardless, Hamilton has shown that he still has MLB talent and simply letting him walk could prove to be a poor decision.

    Rather Unlikely Notable Prospects

    • Wander Javier, SS
    • Trey Cabbage, OF/DH

    Both Javier and Cabbage will be eligible for minor league free agency following the season, though I doubt that the Twins will use that fact as motivation to put them on the 40-man. Javier has been too inconsistent at the plate to justify a roster spot, while Cabbage is a power-hitting corner outfielder/1B/DH-type. Cabbage is in the midst of a career year and does have some value; however, the Twins are loaded with young, power-hitting outfield talent. He could probably fetch something like a potential bullpen arm in a trade, but the odds of a team trading for him when they could try to sign him away from the Twins are low.

    Impending Free Agents

    • Michael Pineda, RHP
    • Alexander Colome, RHP
    • Andrelton Simmons, SS

    The Twins may try to re-sign Pineda and Colome this coming winter, but Simmons seems highly unlikely to return, especially with Lewis's arrival right around the corner. I'd put the over/under on open 40-man roster spots from this group at 1.5.

    40-Man Spots That May Be Up For Grabs

    • Charlie Barnes, LHP
    • Devin Smeltzer, LHP
    • Beau Burrows, RHP
    • Danny Coulombe, LHP
    • Luke Farrell, RHP
    • Edgar Garcia, RHP
    • Ralph Garza Jr., RHP
    • Juan Minaya, RHP
    • Cody Stashak, RHP
    • Lewis Thorpe, LHP
    • Nick Vincent, RHP
    • Derek Law, RHP
    • Willians Astudillo, UTIL
    • Jake Cave, OF
    • Kyle Garlick, OF
    • Rob Refsnyder, OF

    The Twins have a bevy of bullpen arms, bench players, and trade candidates that could be on the move this offseason. As such, the team has at least 16 40-man spots — and that may be an underestimate — to play with. Add in the impending free agents, and that number jumps to 19. Subtract the locks, and that number falls to 14. So while it may seem as though the Twins are on the cusp of a roster crunch at first blush, the reality is that the team has plenty of room to play with this coming winter. If the team loses anyone to the Rule 5 Draft or minor league free agency, it's because the team determined that they were of little value to them moving forward. 

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    5 minutes ago, insagt1 said:

    I'm disappointed in Larnach,frankly. He has been a 'regular' for some time now this season and hasn't been particularly impressive. Hopefully he improves to the point where he becomes a factor in 2022. There is still time.

    I'm not even a little worried about his offense at this point. But I understand why others might be. My point was that I'd rather have him at DH than OF......putting up another blocker for Rooker. 

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    8 minutes ago, Otto von Ballpark said:

    So we have 46 guys on the current 40-man roster, including the 60-day IL guys.

    That goes down to 42 if we don't re-sign any of our 4 impending MLB free agents (including Vincent).

    But that goes back up to 48 considering the 6 minor league "locks" to be added for Rule 5 protection.

    So we actually have to cut 8 guys from the "up for grabs" list of 15 (Lucas's list minus Vincent), just to make 40 in November:

    • Charlie Barnes, LHP
    • Devin Smeltzer, LHP
    • Beau Burrows, RHP
    • Danny Coulombe, LHP
    • Luke Farrell, RHP
    • Edgar Garcia, RHP
    • Ralph Garza Jr., RHP
    • Juan Minaya, RHP
    • Cody Stashak, RHP
    • Lewis Thorpe, LHP
    • Derek Law, RHP
    • Willians Astudillo, UTIL
    • Jake Cave, OF
    • Kyle Garlick, OF
    • Rob Refsnyder, OF

    And we'll need to cut an additional player, beyond 8, for every non-lock prospect we want to protect, or any MLB free agent we sign or re-sign.

    It may not qualify as a "crunch" but we'll probably have to make a few tough decisions about interesting players.

    I count maybe 6 guys on that list I'd protect for sure. That leaves plenty of room.

    Rob Refsnyder, OF
    Charlie Barnes, LHP
    Danny Coulombe, LHP

    Edgar Garcia, RHP

    Ralph Garza Jr., RHP

    Juan Minaya, RHP

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    5 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

    I count maybe 6 guys on that list I'd protect for sure. That leaves plenty of room.

    FYI, I missed a lock and edited my post.

    If you retain 6 from the "up for grabs" list, that means you have only 1 spot left for protecting non-lock minor leaguers or signing or re-signing *any* MLB free agents.

    So you're almost certainly going to end up cutting into that group of 6 too.

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    Just now, Otto von Ballpark said:

    FYI, I missed a lock and edited my post.

    If you retain 6 from the "up for grabs" list, that means you have only 1 spot left for protecting non-lock minor leaguers or signing or re-signing *any* MLB free agents.

    So you're almost certainly going to end up cutting into that group of 6 too.

    No biggie there either. All 6 are replaceable, IMO.

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    3 hours ago, roger said:

    Excellent way of presenting this, Lucas, and excellent discussion.

    The only thing that I think you missed is at the end when you discuss the 19 players players who will/could be departing, you failed to take into consideration that the current 40-man has 46 players on it with 6 on the 60-day IL.  So the number of potential spots will be 19-6, or 13.  With 5 locks, they are then down to 8 potential spots for both young players to be added and open spots for free agent signings.  So it is probably a lot tighter than you presented.  And that assumes all the 16 players at the end are released, which certainly won't happen.

    But I loved the article and expect them to have many lengthy conversations as they approach December.  Personally, I think the most likely of the 50/50 is the first you listed, Enlow.  The next most likely might be Severino, especially if he continues hitting at Cedar Rapids like he has since his promotion.  The other reason may be that they have $2.5M invested in this young man, so I have a feeling he will be added.

    The key will be how many of those guys in the last group are retained.  I expect it will be more than we think.  Hopefully, they can trade a few of them, but that doesn't happen that often. 

    I think Garlick and Luke are 2 of those 6 and they are accounted for above.  who are the other 4 on the 60 day DL?  were they accounted for above too?

     

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    4 FA pitchers and maybe a SS depending on their feelings about having Polanco back there next year would be my offseason moves. So they need 4 or 5 40-man spots available for outside guys if they're not trying to basically hand half the pitching staff spots to rookies next year.

    The I'd protect are:
    Alcala
    Balazovic
    Colina
    Dobnak
    Duffey
    Duran
    Gant
    Jax
    Maeda
    Ober
    Rogers
    Strotman
    Garver
    Jeffers
    Rortvedt
    Arraez
    Donaldson
    Gordon
    Polanco
    Sano
    Buxton
    Celestino
    Kepler
    Kirilloff
    Larnach
    Refsnyder

    Miranda
    Winder
    Ryan
    Sands
    Lewis
    Moran
    Enlow
    Hamilton
    Vallimont
    Severino- If only bringing in 4 FAs and not 5

    I think I counted right and that's 35 or 36 guys. It feels a little pitcher heavy to me, but that's where they need their options going into next year. I think Refsnyder is the only guy on the maybe list that I keep. Wouldn't be sad to see him go either. I don't think there's anyone on that list with a ceiling high enough to risk losing a more controllable player or stop them from bringing in a FA. 

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    I am in agreement with chpetti19, except would only sign FA SS, FA SP, and 2 FA RP leaving a spot for Rooker and Severino. FA SP will need to be at least midrotation quality, have plenty of end of rotation options-no Happ/Shoemaker/Bailey types.

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    16 minutes ago, Brandon said:

    I think Garlick and Luke are 2 of those 6 and they are accounted for above.  who are the other 4 on the 60 day DL?  were they accounted for above too?

    The 60-day IL currently holds Colina, Dobnak, Garlick, Kirilloff, Smeltzer, and Stashak.

    Yes, Garlick, Smeltzer, and Stashak were already listed in the "up for grabs" group, but no one's 60-day IL status was accounted for in determining the original "14 spots to play with" figure.

    More accurately, it's really more like 7 spots to play with, as we decide who to retain from that "up for grabs" group, any non-lock minor leaguers we want protect (i.e. Enlow, Severino), or any MLB free agents to sign or re-sign.

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    42 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    4 FA pitchers and maybe a SS depending on their feelings about having Polanco back there next year would be my offseason moves. So they need 4 or 5 40-man spots available for outside guys if they're not trying to basically hand half the pitching staff spots to rookies next year.

    The I'd protect are:
    Alcala
    Balazovic
    Colina
    Dobnak
    Duffey
    Duran
    Gant
    Jax
    Maeda
    Ober
    Rogers
    Strotman
    Garver
    Jeffers
    Rortvedt
    Arraez
    Donaldson
    Gordon
    Polanco
    Sano
    Buxton
    Celestino
    Kepler
    Kirilloff
    Larnach
    Refsnyder

    Miranda
    Winder
    Ryan
    Sands
    Lewis
    Moran
    Enlow
    Hamilton
    Vallimont
    Severino- If only bringing in 4 FAs and not 5

    I think I counted right and that's 35 or 36 guys. It feels a little pitcher heavy to me, but that's where they need their options going into next year. I think Refsnyder is the only guy on the maybe list that I keep. Wouldn't be sad to see him go either. I don't think there's anyone on that list with a ceiling high enough to risk losing a more controllable player or stop them from bringing in a FA. 

    That is pretty close to what I had I also have Thielbar penciled in but if they find someone better in FA I could see him gone.  They don't have much for lefties unless you think Moran takes Thielbar's spot.   I too like Refsnyder but doubt he is a long term answer so if they wanted to go another direction I could be OK with that.  Will have to see how he finishes the season if he slumps I doubt any other team would want him that badly but who knows.  If he does well might be hard to let him go.

    Guys I still have concerns about would be Palacios, Contreras and Cabbage.  They all could hit 20 HR's this season and all have OPS's over 800.  A team at the bottom might be willing to take a chance especially given how Baddo, Wade and Miranda turned out this year.  The same would go for Severino if he isn't added.  The Twins seem to have good talent hiding in the upper levels will be interesting to see how much of it gets picked off this year.

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    I think Enlow is a lock to be protected. Too much upside there. I don’t think Severino is worth protecting, I don’t think he gets claimed as a 2B with a decent minor league track record. Palacios is doing better at a higher level and can play SS, so I’d prefer him on the 40 man.

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    7 minutes ago, Danchat said:

    I think Enlow is a lock to be protected. Too much upside there. I don’t think Severino is worth protecting, I don’t think he gets claimed as a 2B with a decent minor league track record. Palacios is doing better at a higher level and can play SS, so I’d prefer him on the 40 man.

    I think the Twins have 2,500,000 reasons to protect Severino.

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    39 minutes ago, Danchat said:

    I think Enlow is a lock to be protected. Too much upside there. I don’t think Severino is worth protecting, I don’t think he gets claimed as a 2B with a decent minor league track record. Palacios is doing better at a higher level and can play SS, so I’d prefer him on the 40 man.

    You might be right about Severino.  It seems a stretch that he would be Baddoo like out of High A but I think after Baddoo we\they might be hesitant not to keep him.  I think a lot of it will depend on how he finishes the year.  If he finishes hot I don't think they will have a choice as you would be looking at a player likely to succeed at AA the following year so why not roster him and try him at the MLB level a little early.  I could see a team doing that.  Probably the Tigers again.  If he falters down the stretch seems like a longshot.

     To your point we do have a lot of second base depth in the system so losing him wouldn't be the end of the world for a team with several years of Polanco and Arreaz coming up and Spencer Steer in the wings.  They might have enough depth that they just leave him unprotected because there is no way he can help the team in 2022 and he would be taking up a 40 man spot.  They might feel they can't afford to add him.

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    21 minutes ago, Game7-91 said:

    But agree, its a loophole in rules that should be closed

    It's not really a loophole -- as mentioned upthread, you can't just stash them on the IL until you option them. If they don't have at least 90 days on an MLB active roster by the end of their Rule 5 season (not counting any IL stints or rehab), they still need to remain on your active roster into subsequent seasons, until they reach 90 days.

    The Pirates drafted Burdi in December 2017, but by my count, he never even reached 90 active days over the next 3 years -- looks like he had 68, and they were never able to option him. (He may have technically been allowed to satisfy his Rule 5 requirements in 2020 due to the shortened season -- the Rule 5 requirement was reduced from 90 to 50 days for that season only -- but it was moot anyway, as he was DFA'd, cleared waivers, and elected to become a minor league free agent after his 2nd TJ surgery, in October 2020.)

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    Honestly, with all the logjammed talent, the potential the new CBA could change roster size, team control, universal DH's etc, trying to figure out how tight things are for the Twins before the rule 5 draft is kinda tough.

    I expect the Twins will move at least a couple players this offseason if the universal DH doesn't happen and maybe 3-4 if it does.

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    5 hours ago, Silas said:

    What about Andrew Vasquez at AAA/St. Paul?  Why don't we ever hear anything about him?  Pretty good stats...big lefthander....27 yrs old.......drafted by the Twins.  Why isn't he a candidate to come up to the big club?  What am I missing here?

    That one game in 2019 really scared people away, apparently. It was a bad game, but still. He's got good K numbers. He's good vs Lefties. He just gets himself in trouble when he doesn't throw strikes. But, definitely worth considering. 

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    2 hours ago, Otto von Ballpark said:

    It's not really a loophole -- as mentioned upthread, you can't just stash them on the IL until you option them. If they don't have at least 90 days on an MLB active roster by the end of their Rule 5 season (not counting any IL stints or rehab), they still need to remain on your active roster into subsequent seasons, until they reach 90 days.

    The Pirates drafted Burdi in December 2017, but by my count, he never even reached 90 active days over the next 3 years -- looks like he had 68, and they were never able to option him. (He may have technically been allowed to satisfy his Rule 5 requirements in 2020 due to the shortened season -- the Rule 5 requirement was reduced from 90 to 50 days for that season only -- but it was moot anyway, as he was DFA'd, cleared waivers, and elected to become a minor league free agent after his 2nd TJ surgery, in October 2020.)

    Thanks for clarifying. Does the 90 day rule apply to the 40 man roster or 26?

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    3 hours ago, Dman said:

    That is pretty close to what I had I also have Thielbar penciled in but if they find someone better in FA I could see him gone.  They don't have much for lefties unless you think Moran takes Thielbar's spot.   I too like Refsnyder but doubt he is a long term answer so if they wanted to go another direction I could be OK with that.  Will have to see how he finishes the season if he slumps I doubt any other team would want him that badly but who knows.  If he does well might be hard to let him go.

    Guys I still have concerns about would be Palacios, Contreras and Cabbage.  They all could hit 20 HR's this season and all have OPS's over 800.  A team at the bottom might be willing to take a chance especially given how Baddo, Wade and Miranda turned out this year.  The same would go for Severino if he isn't added.  The Twins seem to have good talent hiding in the upper levels will be interesting to see how much of it gets picked off this year.

    I listed quite a few options for the bench.  I don't think they will all be kept.  Just that we have control on all of them beyond this season and can make an effective bench from what we already have.  

    I agree with you on those in the minors.  Some players will get exposed to the rule 5 draft.  I hope the one who get picked do well.   I just want our team to do better.  

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    2 minutes ago, Game7-91 said:

    Thanks for all that. Makes better sense. And too bad abt Burdi, hadnt heard he was having tj#2. Hope he can come back next year.

    Nick Burdi actually got a minor league deal for this season, so he's rehabbing as an official member of the Padres organization. Haven't heard anything about how that is going, though, but I'd guess the Padres will have the inside track on giving him a minor league deal for 2022, if they want to.

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    17 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    4 FA pitchers and maybe a SS depending on their feelings about having Polanco back there next year would be my offseason moves. So they need 4 or 5 40-man spots available for outside guys if they're not trying to basically hand half the pitching staff spots to rookies next year.

    [...]

    I think I counted right and that's 35 or 36 guys. It feels a little pitcher heavy to me, but that's where they need their options going into next year. I think Refsnyder is the only guy on the maybe list that I keep. Wouldn't be sad to see him go either. I don't think there's anyone on that list with a ceiling high enough to risk losing a more controllable player or stop them from bringing in a FA. 

     

    17 hours ago, 4twinsJA said:

    I am in agreement with chpetti19, except would only sign FA SS, FA SP, and 2 FA RP leaving a spot for Rooker and Severino...

     

    Although counting open spots for future free agents in the 40 is useful for this exercise, when the Twins org is actually managing their roster in the offseason, there's no need to hold spots open for free agents they're yet to sign - I think anyone besides the newly added players can be cut from the 40-man at any time. There may be some other rules about player movement on and off rosters in the offseason that I don't remember (?), but in general, they can (and probably will) keep a few more of those marginal/"maybe" guys early in the offseason but it won't stop them from making free agent additions.

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    2 minutes ago, TopGunn#22 said:

    Where does a guy like Griffen Jax fit into this equation ??

    Depends on if the organization believes they can fix all that is wrong with our pitching and the rest of the team for that matter in free agency or trades for 2022.  Put another way, they could be influenced by their perceived chances of contending in 2022 VS putting a good product on the field in 2022 but under a strategy aimed at 2023.  Under that first premise, they go sign 2-3 FA SPs and Jax probably gets squeezed out.  He is either SP depth or in the BP.  If the organization sees there best chance at returning to contention and sustaining that success being dependent of developing a lot of pitching, they commit to that strategy by giving the plethora of SP prospects they have a shot.  This could mean they keep three spots open in 2022.  Jax / Ober / Barnes and perhaps Ryan will be the plan come spring training.  Winder /  Balazovic or Strotman could win a spot in spring training.  

    Jax probably still gets moved the BP or traded as Balazovic / SWR / Duran / Canterino / Enlow make their way to the ML club.  So, the plan focused on 2023 would start with 3 of Jax / Ober / Barnes / Ryan but the 5 mentioned above will hopefully be good enough to take the place of the weakest link and the rotation looks quite different at the end of the season.  Best case scenario is we end up trading some young pitching or some of these guys end up effective BP arms.  The strategy aimed at 2023 likely means trading Donaldson in the off-season if possible and bringing Miranda up in 2022.  

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