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  • Through The Fence: End Of The Instructs Nears


    Bob Sacamento

    Once again, the Twins and Red Sox took to the diamond for Instructional League ball. There was a new giddiness in the air as the League is done as of Tuesday and a good number of these players will head home for the winter.

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    Everyone already has their plans set and everyone has something different in store. Still, for now, there was baseball to be played and talent to be evaluated. This weekend members of the Twins front office were visible in the stands with GM Terry Ryan, Special Assistant Bill Smith, Scouting Director Deron Johnson, and head of Player Personnel Mike Radcliffe. The Red Sox top brass was also in the stands with GM Dave Dombrowski being the most notable.

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    On the rubber for the Twins Friday was Williams Ramirez who was facing one of the Red Sox's top pitching prospects, Michael Kopech. The two matched each other pitch for pitch in the first two innings before Ramirez gave up a couple of hits and a run. For the duration of Instructs, the Twins have either let their starter go two or four innings depending upon their seasonal workload. Ramirez went 4 IP and was relieved by Logan Lombana (1 IP), John Curtiss (2 IP), and Yorman Landa (1 IP). Landa once again was 93-95 mph, spotting his fastball on both corners while breaking off a couple decent sliders.

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    So I know this might sound like a broken record but Nick "Flash Jr" Gordon is really good, not only in the field but at the plate. In the field, he showed slick fielding going far into the hole, jumping and showing off a strong, accurate throw to first. Later in the game, he charged a soft grounder barehanded and threw out the runner while never getting his feet under him. At the plate, he hit the ball hard and up the middle with a compact stroke that is designed to take advantage of his speed. Additionally, he worked on his bunting skills. This wasn't a sacrifice style bunt yet rather a run and tap a la Otis Nixon or Brett Butler. After the game, I asked Gordon about his bunt earlier; he said that's part of his game that he really wants to improve and feels it adds another part to his game. He plans on working on it this offseason with his brother who's one of the better bunters in baseball today and has been coached by some of the best. Another hitter I'm continually pleased to see is Lamonte Wade with his beautiful lefthanded swing and advanced approach at the plate. He really had some good at-bats.

    Apparently, Gonsalves' last outing was Thursday when he went two innings and he said he felt good but was excited to shut it down for the rest of the year. As he said. this was the most he's ever thrown and by the end of the regular season he was tiring and throwing in Instructs just added more fuel to the fire. Also throwing on Thursday was Fernando Romero who went two innings, hitting 93-95 mph.

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    In side notes, 2015 draftee and reliever Rich Condeelis was sidelined with several stitches in his chin as he was hit by a ball thrown by fellow pitcher Zach Tillery. Unlike most of the pitchers in camp, Condeelis is going to continue to throw for another month or so to stretch out his arm. Unbeknowst to me, Rich has only been pitching for the last 6-7 months as he spent much of his career as a first baseman. The organization is supportive of his sidearm delivery and will let him continue to throw in that fashion. As it turns out, the player I've been sitting and talking Spanglish with over the entire summer was Fernando Romero (he would never give his name other than "Paul"). He saved me a front row seat next to Deron Johnson and Mike Radcliff so that was nice of him. He absolutely hates his picture taken and thought I was a scout at the beginning of the GCL season.

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    On Saturday, lefty Sam Clay started for the Twins, going 4 innings. his fastball was continually 89-91 mph, maxing out at 92 mph, with a slider around 76-78 mph. I was sitting next to two AL East Scouts (one amateur, one pro), and they were comparing notes on Clay. Last year, Clay's fastball was continually 92-95 mph when he first joined the Twins. They jokingly said that's the Twin's for you. I asked them what they meant and they said happens a lot with Twins pitchers. Clay was relieved by an inning of Wilfredy Liranzo and Brandon Poulson for an inning before the game was called due to rain. Poulson threw one slider, the rest were fastballs at 90-95 mph averaging 93.

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    In the box, Tyree Davis got some of his first game action of the 2015 season. Tyree has really bulked up, adding 20 lbs of muscle over the year as he's been relegated to the weight room due to his elbow injury. He luckily avoided surgery and he said that it feels 100%. He wants to continue his season in the Caribbean but is unsure if the team will give the okay. Also getting some at-bats was former first-rounder Levi Michael, who looked very rusty out on the field. Levi's a great guy and I'll always root for him but his baseball career is looking bleak.

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    Overall, it was a great summer of the GCL and Instructs. The Twins wrap up their season hosting the Orioles on Monday and visiting the Red Sox on Tuesday. Till February!! In the meantime, I'll be getting my baseball fix and a foothold on the 2016 draft with all the showcases in South Florida.

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    "Last year, Clay's fastball was continually 92-95 mph when he first joined the Twins. They jokingly said that's the Twin's for you. I asked them what they meant and they said happens a lot with Twins pitchers." 

    Did they have any theories on that?    I defend pitchers like Duffey that have stuff and command even though they don't have big velocity but I would rather they have stuff, command and velocity.    I do not believe the Twins teach them to throw slower.

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    Sane you are correct, just because a guy can throw 98 mph doesn't mean it's better than his 93 mph with movement.  Those two scouts appeared not to be the biggest fans of the Twins' pitching development but did not elaborate and I didn't pry.  I do know the amateur scout said Clay used to have bigger stride in college that was the only physical difference I overheard.

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    Thanks for the reports.  Been a long time playing ball for some of these guys, as some were down there in January. 

     

    I hope to be back down this winter, but have no place to stay this year.  If you hear of anything not to expensive, please let me know!

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    For many pitchers, 100% of maximum velocity produces a loss of movement(stuff)
    One step on the pitchers learning curve is to determine at what velocity each of his pitches have their best movement, and then learn how to repeat that pitch / velocity.

    No doubt very true.   Koufax prime example and also guys like Gibson and Blackburn appeared to be more effective when not given too lengthy a rest which resulted in higher velocity but less break.   Prime example of a Twin losing velocity though is Hughes.    Hard to make an argument that his loss of velocity was by design or that he has gotten more movement by throwing slower..   In fact, I imagine there might be some pitches that can break better with higher velocity or greater arm strength anyway such as sliders and cutters.   

    Hughes appeared to be getting by at the end by being more of a pitcher in changing speeds and mixing things up.     Best result IMO is for him to get the velocity back but still incorporate what he has learned this season. 

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