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    Shane Wahl

    Leading up to spring training, I am highlighting three players in the system who are "push candidates." These are players who I think should be pushed to the next level in the minor league system, even with some issues in their 2014 seasons that might give the Twins pause. I am not one who thinks players need to "dominate" a level before being promoted,

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    and I certainly think that there are two points in the system where there are "put up or shut up" moments for a player-- the first full season in Cedar Rapids, and first season with MLB-caliber talent in Chattanooga.

    The first player to be featured is one who creates a major stir in discussions at Twins Daily, with maybe only Joe Mauer causing more of a split in the intelligent fan base between people on opposing sides of player evaluation. I am talking about Adam Brett Walker III. Here, I do not want to get this discussion mired in repetition of the same usual stuff about Walker. Instead, the purpose is to just lay out the full range of possibilities for Walker, letting them speak for themselves.

    The Player

    Adam Walker is 23 years old (DOB: October 18, 1991) and is 6'4", 225+ pounds. He was drafted in the third round of the 2012 draft by the Twins out of Jacksonsville University and has played 285 minor league games, all as a right fielder. He bats right-handed, has tremendous power and decent speed. Starting in 2012 in rookie ball (Elizabethon), Walker has progressed one step at a time through the system, playing a full season in 2014 at Fort Myers. It looks like 2015 would mean one more step up the ladder to AA Chattanooga.

    The Situation

    Walker has displayed great power and bad plate discipline each of his three seasons in the organization. In his first full season he posted a .278/.319/.526 (.844) line, with 31 doubles, seven triples and 27 homers. He stole 10 bases in 10 attempts. In 552 plate appearances, he walked only 31 times while striking out 115 times. I thought after the 2013 season that much of the complaining about his K rate and the K/BB rate were overblown. Strikeouts simply come with tremendous power, Albert Pujols being one of only a few exceptions. I also thought that the walks would come as he gained more experience.

    2014 didn't really resolve anything. He moved to the pitcher-dominated FSL and kept the homers coming. And the strikeouts. He put together a .246/.307/.436 (.743) line with 19 doubles, one triple and 25 homers. He had nine steals in 14 attempts. In 554 plate appearances (neatly close to identical for comparison's sake) he walked 44 times and struck out 156 times. So the walks did increase some, and I am still not overly concerned about the sheer number of strikeouts by themselves. Clearly, though, these strikeouts mean lower contact as his batting average dropped 32 points.

    What does actually concern me is that the doubles and triples really dropped. The latter might be a result of losing some overall speed and athleticism as he fills out and bulks up, but the drop in doubles is strange. His isolated power in 2013 was a whopping .248 (Willie Stargell territory), but in 2014 in dropped to .190 (Ryan Zimmerman territory). It is still impressive, but much less so than the power that really stood out in 2013. So this leads to an important question: Where are the Twins going to send Walker in 2015?

    The Possibilities

    Walker might be kept in Fort Myers to work on plate discipline and contact rate. The Twins do keep players in A-ball if they struggle there. Some examples: Aaron Hicks, Chris Parmelee, and Joe Benson spent the equivalent of two seasons in Beloit, Angel Morales stuck around in Fort Myers for the equivalent of two full seasons, and Levi Michael was in his third year at Fort Myers in 2014 before hitting his way to AA. This would keep Walker facing the level of pitching that he is familiar with so that there would be no added pressure and he can focus on rounding out (as much as possible) his batting approach.

    The parenthetical remark above points to another direction, however. It is just not wise to think of Adam Walker as an all-around batter who just needs some polish. Rather, he is likely primarily a slugger, and as such is a poor man's Miguel Sano, in that he lacks the potential that Sano has in becoming a near-complete package as a batter. There's still a lot of value in that power alone, especially if Walker can become an average or slightly above average right fielder. Following this line of thought, I would say that Walker should be promoted to AA Chattanooga to see if the move away from the pitcher-dominated FSL to the merely pitcher-friendly Southern League can let his bat skills take off.

    Subsequent struggles with contact could be ironed out with extended time in AA. I would hate to see Walker stagnate in Fort Myers and then have adjustment issues in AA to still deal with a year from now. I think it is better to push him now and see what happens, especially given how dominant and supportive the supporting lineup in Chattanooga is going to be for at least the first few months.

    Undoubtedly, the debate about Walker will continue as the strikeouts aren't going to drop significantly and the walks aren't going to grow significantly in AA this year. I am going to be most interested in watching the slugging get back north of .460, at the very least. Improved defense and maintaining a moderate stolen base threat would help Walker progress nicely through the system.

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    Who was the last (position player) prospect to benefit from a repeat stay in high A?

    [I'm talking after a full season in high A and start of next season]

     

    I'm talking about prospects who became MLB Twins regulars?

     

    I hear those who say let him repeat A+, but where in Twins history has this been beneficial to the point of "This is what should be done"?  If no one is blocking a player, let them move up and repeat at the higher levels.  Besides, it is not like he had a horrible season.  These are not terrible numbers for FSL  [ .250 BA / 25 homers / 95 rbi / 750+ OPS].  The new "Twins Way"  = Push Push Push

     

    Good question. I really do wonder about sustained Twins success from players who repeated A or lower ball. That is worth looking up. I cannot imagine that there are many, and certainly very few of the top 20% of all Twins players.

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    Intangibles do matter to me and should be rewarded after a while:
    • FSL Championship (1st in decades/ever)
    • FSL All Star Game MVP  (against FSL Best / HR;DB; Single)
    • FSL  Home Run Derby Champion  (36 points final Rd / 35 1st Rd)
    • Final MLB Spring Training Game (call up = 1 HR / 1 DBL)
    • Best Record in MiLB in 2013 (CR Kernels) / Post Buxton

      Midwest League Topps MVP

    • Appy League Championship (Post Season MVP)

     

    http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120918&content_id=38611162&vkey=news_l120&fext=.jsp&sid=l120

     

    Some prospects just have a way of raising their game as GM stated.  Push :)

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    I think the big issue here is that most of those intangibles are team records. Kind of hard to say credit Walker for these while not using the same criteria to credit other guys. As it is, it's not as though the Twins have been hard on the guy. He got promoted to FTM and will likely play in AA this season. Not bad for your 3rd season in the minors.

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    Big time when it matters.  MiLB Postseason numbers.

    [14 Games / 53 ABs / 12 Runs / 15 Hits / 2 Doubles / 4 HRs / 10 BB / 17 SO / 4 SB]

     

    ,283 BA

    .406 OBP

    .566 SLG

    .972 OPS

     

    #I'mTalkingPlayoffs  #WalkerWalks  #OBPmachineLol  #PushPushPush #NewWeekLastPost

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    Intangibles do matter to me and should be rewarded after a while:

    • FSL Championship (1st in decades/ever)

    • FSL All Star Game MVP  (against FSL Best / HR;DB; Single)

    • FSL  Home Run Derby Champion  (36 points final Rd / 35 1st Rd)

    • Final MLB Spring Training Game (call up = 1 HR / 1 DBL)

    • Best Record in MiLB in 2013 (CR Kernels) / Post Buxton

      Midwest League Topps MVP

    • Appy League Championship (Post Season MVP)

     

    http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120918&content_id=38611162&vkey=news_l120&fext=.jsp&sid=l120

     

    Some prospects just have a way of raising their game as GM stated.  Push :)

     

    Lightfoot, you know that I like Walker and am higher on him than most... but I have to admit that I can't get into this argument.

     

    The league championships don't matter much to me in prospect rankings. They're a team thing and he was one of 24 on the team. He was one of the starting 9. It's awesome that they win, but doesn't affect prospect status for me. That said, it was his 3-run-homer in the 9th of the Appy League championship game that sent it to extra innings and then Dalton Hicks' grand slam won it a couple innings later.

     

    FSL All Star Game MVP is a nice honor, but one game. A home run derby championship alone doesn't mean a lot. Chris Parmelee won that same championship several years ago. It speaks to his power, but the 25+ regular season homers mean more to me than a HR derby. 

     

    Walker is a good prospect on his own based on power and potential. Intangibles to me are his personality, humility, work ethic, etc.  Those matter to me. 

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    I remember Seth.  You don't believe in the "Clutch" gene. :)

     

    No argument here.  Agree to disagree.  I am a believer in "Positive Energy" resulting in positive happenings.  Guys miss free throws because they are bad at it and they can feel everyone else believes it too.    Pitchers are wild because they know they have a tendency to be wild and everyone believes them to be wild as well.  Players who can stay in the moment better than others perform better.  IMO

    Positive Energy Brings Positive Results - Gotta Believe

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    And, I don't think it's stubbornness on Walker's side. I feel like, from listening to many of the Miracle games last year, he was taking a lot more pitches. It may have meant more strikeouts last year, but maybe in the long-term, it'll be beneficial. I just don't think it's as easy as you may think it is to change, or to be something different. It's going to take time and patience.

    I can't find any data to support this. In fact it looks like Walker swung as much as he ever has.

     

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    I always thought players with extreme contact tendencies could benefit by adhering to a red light-green light matrix. If Walker's whiffing is putting him at a disadvantage, give him the red light!

     

    On the opposite end a guy like Revere might have benefited from a red light since he never swung and missed. All his balls went into play and he never got deep enough into counts to draw any walks.

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    I can't find any data to support this. In fact it looks like Walker swung as much as he ever has.

     

    From minorleaguecentral.com

     

    The question you should ask is how many strike 1's and strike 2's were looking.  There's your support.  Some one posted that Walker probably had more full counts than anyone on Miracle team last year.  Didn't mean he was swinging away, just meant he had a lot of 2 strike counts.  That maybe dumb on his part, but doesn't necessarily mean he was swinging away.   Like the poster I'm referring to said - Very rarely did I hear (radio) him go down on 3 swings or 3 straight strikes for that matter.   For all his strikeouts - I would bet as well, that most of his hits came with 2 strikes as well.

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    You may have to translate for me... does that show how many 3-ball counts there were, or pitches per at bat?

    No, but it does show actual facts regarding Walker's swing tendencies as opposed to hearsay, even but it is limited to 2 strike counts.

     

    FWIW his BB% was 7.9% compared to a career average of 6.8%. So unless his swing and miss tendencies changed in 3 ball counts, he did not see a significantly higher proportion of them last season.

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    You may have to translate for me... does that show how many 3-ball counts there were, or pitches per at bat?

    Neither.  Just the percentage of "type of strikeouts" .

     

    Striking out proves that you obviously had 3 strikes on you, but doesn't establish how you came to those 3 strikes....................

     

    *3 crazy swings? 

    *1 crazy swing ala Puckett / Carlos Gomez (going for yours) and then settling in? 

    *several called strikes early in count and 1 limited bad swing? 

    *mixture of all the above on any given night (no approach)?

    *several near misses on swings with good swings?

     

    All these are important factors for me and should be something a good hitting coach will figure out moving forward.  What is the approach you want for him and is he adhering to it throughout the season?  We will see?  Would be a good question to ask a Chad Allen during the season?

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    I can't find any data to support this. In fact it looks like Walker swung as much as he ever has.

     

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    Looks to me like he took a step in the right direction in 2013 only to revert to previous behavior in 2014

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    I agree about pitches/at bat. I doubt that we will find that. 

     

    In the long run, I can see Walker spending all of 2015 and 2016 in AA (until September). 2017 starts in AAA and then it all happens from there.

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    Start AA w/July promotion to AAA.  Southern League has first half and second half playoff qualifiers.

    Team led by Buxton and Sano will allow for second half promotions by several players.  

    Twins want playoffs in both AA and AAA.

     

    The bigger question will end up, does he make 40 man roster this November?  Are skills worthy?

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