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    Seth Stohs

    By the end of this week, the Minnesota Twins will have to add some players to their 40-man roster. The Twins currently have 33 players on their 40-man roster. That number does not include Byung-Ho Kim. So, the Twins could add as many as six players to the roster. Most likely, they will add three to four players.

    In the Twins Daily Offseason Handbook, I went into more detail on several of the players that the Twins will likely consider for adding to the 40-man roster. Today, I’ll post the most likely players for the Twins to add with some more information. We’ll start at #1 with the player most likely to be added, and get through the top 10. Of course, these are just my opinion, so I’d encourage your thoughts below.

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    Let’s get started… but first, who is eligible for the Rule 5 draft if not protected on a 40 man roster?

    • Players signed at the age of 18 or less in 2011 (signed before end of minor league season)
    • Players signed at the age of 19 or more in 2012
    • Players signed under the first two categories in previous years.

    #1 – LHP Taylor Rogers

    The 25-year-old southpaw has moved up a level each year since being the Twins 11th round pick in 2012 out of the University of Kentucky. He has done well as a starter, though many believe that he could be tremendous out of the bullpen. With the Twins depth of starting pitchers, Rogers could be a guy who gets to the Twins quickly out of the bullpen. Consider left-handers hit just .177/.209/.193 (.402) off him in 2015 in AAA. Rogers has a good fastball with a really, really good slider that is devastating to lefties. He needs a better changeup if he wants to be a starter, specifically to help get right-handers out. After throwing 174 innings during the regular season, he has thrown another 25 innings, so far, in the AFL. Rogers will pitch in the big leagues for a long time.

    #2 – OF Adam Brett Walker

    Yes, he strikes out too much. Yes, there are concerns about his pitch recognition. However, he’s just 24, and is a legitimate 8 power on the scout’s 2-8 chart. He led minor league baseball in strikeouts (195) this year, but he also hit 31 home runs and ended with 65 extra base hits. He has led his league in home runs each of the last three seasons. Walker is adequate in the outfield, with an arm for left field. The Twins third-round pick in 2012 out of Jacksonville University has done well in the Arizona Fall League as well, with five home runs.

    #3 – RH RP JT Chargois

    It may sound strange to say that a guy who didn’t pitch in 2013 and 2014 is a given to be added to the 4- man roster, but I believe he is. Why? He is capable and frequently hit 100 mph with his fastball. He was consistently at 98 and 99 mph. He was the Twins second round pick in 2012 out of Rice University where he was co-closer with Tyler Duffey. He pitched 16 innings in Elizabethton that year and then missed the next two years with elbow problems that culminated in Tommy John surgery. He’s not a finished project. He can throw more strikes and his slider, while a terrific pitch, can be inconsistent. Two big league pitches and he can be a dominant late-inning reliever, soon.

    #4 – LHP Pat Dean

    After a 2014 season in AA that he described as remarkably disappointing, Dean responded with a terrific 2015 season in Rochester. The lefty, who was the Twins third-round pick in 2010 out of Boston College. In 2015, he went 12-11 with a 2.82 over a minor league-leading 179 innings pitched. If he isn’t protected, there is a good chance that he is selected in the Rule 5 draft.

    #5 – 2B Levi Michael

    Michael was the Twins first-round pick in 2011 out of the University of North Carolina. His biggest issue through his professional career has been the injury bug. However, the last two years when he has been healthy, he has been good. In 2014 he played in just 65 games but he hit a combined .313/.389/.387 (.776). He spent 2015 in Chattanooga and played just 63 games. He hit .267/.369/.434 (.804) with 12 doubles, five triples and five home runs. Michael may not have any tools that jump out of the roof, but he is a solid player all around. He’s got good speed, puts together good at-bats, has doubles power, and plays solid defense. He is primarily a second baseman, but he could probably make a team as a 25th man who can play all three infield positions. Still just 24, he is a guy who could stick with a big league team.

    #6 – RHP Zack Jones

    A year ago, Zack Jones was on path to be an easy add to the roster at this time. However, after being a Southern League All-Star following a strong first half in AA, he really struggled and ended his season back in Ft. Myers. However, that doesn’t negate his upside. It also doesn’t negate his upper-90s fastball. He also has a very good slider. However, he can struggle with control of each. There may be a team out there willing to give him an opportunity in some low-level situations throughout 2016. He was the Twins fourth-round pick in 2012.

    #7 – RHP Felix Jorge

    Jorge is just 22. He signed out of Venezuela in 2010. He struggled mightily in Cedar Rapids in 2014. He returned to the Kernels and was remarkably consistent all year. In fact, he completed six innings in 19 of his 22 starts and never went less than five innings. I think he’s a longer-shot to be added because he is still quite far from being big league ready.

    #8 – LHP Corey Williams

    Williams came back from Tommy John surgery in early June after having the surgery on April 1, 2014, and missing that season. He split his time between Fort Myers and Chattanooga and pitched well. He is definitely one to watch following a regular offseason. Left-handed. Throws hard. Stuff described as nasty. I feel like he should be higher up on this list.

    The same might be said of another power lefty. Mason Melotakis had Tommy John surgery late in 2014 and will return to action in 2016. When healthy, his 97 mph fastball and three-pitch mix make him intriguing. However, he is behind Williams in the return schedule which makes him unlikely to be taken.

    #9 – OF Travis Harrison

    Twins supplemental first-round pick in 2011 (50th overall) out of high school in California, Harrison has worked his way up one level at a time each year. To this point, his best tool has been his patience and approach at the plate. Still just 23, he has very good power potential despite not hitting home runs the last couple of years. Defensively, he is adequate in right field and has a strong arm. I think it might serve him best to get another half-season in Chattanooga, but there’s still enough upside and talent that a team might be willing to have him take up a roster spot.

    #10 – RHP Yorman Landa

    Signed by the Twins out of Venezuela in 2010, Landa has fought some shoulder injuries the last couple of seasons. When healthy, he is another guy who is capable of reaching into the upper-90s and has a good slider as well. Over time, he could develop into a late-inning power arm. However, having just finished a season in Cedar Rapids, he is likely too far away from the big leagues to be selected in the Rule 5.

    OTHER ELIGIBLES:

    RHP Jose Abreu, RHP Jason Adam, RHP Nick Anderson, RHP Luke Bard, RHP Omar Bencomo, OF Edgar Corcino, RHP DJ Baxendale, RHP Sam Gibbons, RHP Miguel Gonzalez, IF/OF Niko Goodrum, 1B/3B Bryan Haar, 1B Dalton Hicks, LHP David Hurlbut, RHP Cole Johnson, LHP Brett Lee, RHP Kuo-Hua Lo, IF Aderlin Mejia, RHP Alex Muren, C Carlos Paulino, RHP Greg Peavey, C Michael Quesada, RHP Dereck Rodriguez, C Jairo Rodriguez, OF/1B Reynaldo Rodriguez, LHP Randy Rosario, RHP Tim Shibuya, RHP Matt Summers, RHP Loek Van Mil, RHP Todd Van Steensel, IF/OF Logan Wade, LHP Jason Wheeler, IF/OF Stephen Wickens, RHP Alex Wimmers.

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    The Twins saw performance as a AAA SP which they think transfers to a MLB RP.

    His 2015 performance was good and maybe it "wowed" the Twins.

    Most of us see a non-prospect, where the Twins see a MLB ready RP.

     

     

    The Twins saw performance as a AAA SP which they think transfers to a MLB RP.

    His 2015 performance was good and maybe it "wowed" the Twins.

    Most of us see a non-prospect, where the Twins see a MLB ready RP.

    Most of us didn't see Duffey as a serious prospect either.  Count me amongst those who don't see it with Dean but I hope to be wrong again.

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    The issue with Dean is where he is on the pecking order and where to stash him.  There are 7 guys on the 25 man roster right now who are starting pitchers.  Even if Nolasco and Milone are traded, you now have Dean sitting behind Rogers, Berrios, and quite possibly Meyer in AAA.  I'm not necessarily against keeping him if there's room on the 40 man, but I suspect that may be a bit of a long shot given the org's need for some decent relief pitching and quite possibly another OF.

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    Most of us didn't see Duffey as a serious prospect either.  Count me amongst those who don't see it with Dean but I hope to be wrong again.

     

    The thing about Duffey is that you saw his peripherals improve with each step up the ladder.  That certainly was encouraging.  I'm not quite sure the type of pitcher he's going to be, but with a mid-90s FB and a hammer curve, he could be a pretty good one.  I thought he would profile as  3 at best.  He pitched like that in his rookie year and could potentially get better (he could get worse too). 

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    The thing about Duffey is that you saw his peripherals improve with each step up the ladder.  That certainly was encouraging.  I'm not quite sure the type of pitcher he's going to be, but with a mid-90s FB and a hammer curve, he could be a pretty good one.  I thought he would profile as  3 at best.  He pitched like that in his rookie year and could potentially get better (he could get worse too). 

     

    Agreed, Duffey is a guy who we didn't see coming, but when we see his stuff, it's easy to see that we should have paid more attention.

     

    I'm not sure that we actually need to see Dean pitch to know that a 89 MPH fastball an a sub 5.0 K/9 is an extreme long shot.

     

     

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    OTHER ELIGIBLES:
    RHP Jose Abreu, RHP Jason Adam, RHP Nick Anderson, RHP Luke Bard, RHP Omar Bencomo, OF Edgar Corcino, RHP DJ Baxendale, RHP Sam Gibbons, RHP Miguel Gonzalez, IF/OF Niko Goodrum, 1B/3B Bryan Haar, 1B Dalton Hicks, LHP David Hurlbut, RHP Cole Johnson, LHP Brett Lee, RHP Kuo-Hua Lo, IF Aderlin Mejia, RHP Alex Muren, C Carlos Paulino, RHP Greg Peavey, C Michael Quesada, RHP Dereck Rodriguez, C Jairo Rodriguez, OF/1B Reynaldo Rodriguez, LHP Randy Rosario, RHP Tim Shibuya, RHP Matt Summers, RHP Loek Van Mil, RHP Todd Van Steensel, IF/OF Logan Wade, LHP Jason Wheeler, IF/OF Stephen Wickens, RHP Alex Wimmers.


     

     

     

    I was going through my list of eligible players and I think that the following should be added to this list (resent MiLB FA signees/re-signees) :

     

    OF Marcus Knecht, C Joe Maloney, SS Heiker Meneses,  LHP Dan Ruzler

     

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    MLB.com (via the Twins website) has an article saying that the Twins are likely to protect Dean. I would guess that there's some mouthpiece within the organization associated with that information. What's the disconnect between what the organization sees in him and what everyone here sees?

     

    You mean that the organization actually sees him, a lot, and get daily reports and stats on him... I don't think he's a given, but I know a lot of people really like him.

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    Most of us didn't see Duffey as a serious prospect either.  Count me amongst those who don't see it with Dean but I hope to be wrong again.

    I don't know about that... I mean, Duffey would have been #1 on this list of adds even if he wouldn't have been added in-season. He was very highly regarded. Maybe not by many, but I know Jeremy and I both had him in our Top 15 Twins prospect lists, and we were both clearly a little low with him...

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    I was going through my list of eligible players and I think that the following should be added to this list (resent MiLB FA signees/re-signees) :

     

    OF Marcus Knecht, C Joe Maloney, SS Heiker Meneses,  LHP Dan Ruzler

     

    Yup, all four of them can be added as well. Plus some others probably.

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    Using your math and requirements Jamie Moyer needed to add 17 mph to his fastball in order to pitch in the Big Leagues. MPH is overrated and IQ is underrated.

     

    I did not say that.  Duffey is a major leaguer.  Milone is a major leaguer too.  Albers was once.

     

    My point was the fact that he does not have a "mid 90s FB".  Just a fact.  Not a comment about his ability as a major league.

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    "he could be a pretty good one"

    "But to do that, he has to add 4-5mph to his FB"

     

    I thought "has to" implied a requirement "to be a pretty good one".

     

    If I incorrectly inferred what you implied....My bad!

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    Not sure I get the Dean thing, I know Jeremy and Seth say the Twins like him, but how much of that might be an overreaction to losing Gilmartin?

     

    Rogers, O'Rourke, and probably Darnell are all ahead of him for left handed relief duty, probably Rogers and Darnell for starting duty too (not to mention Milone).

     

    Rosario seems like a stretch too, 65 inning in A-ball (and not high-A), 6.8 K/9, 3.88 ERA (5.54 if you include unearned runs, admittedly more frequent at lower levels).  No real experience pitching out of relief yet either.

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    Not sure I get the Dean thing, I know Jeremy and Seth say the Twins like him, but how much of that might be an overreaction to losing Gilmartin?

     

    Rogers, O'Rourke, and probably Darnell are all ahead of him for left handed relief duty, probably Rogers and Darnell for starting duty too (not to mention Milone).

     

    Rosario seems like a stretch too, 65 inning in A-ball (and not high-A), 6.8 K/9, 3.88 ERA (5.54 if you include unearned runs, admittedly more frequent at lower levels).  No real experience pitching out of relief yet either.

     

    I think Dean shows that Milone and Nolasco are gone in some way. Protects a little bit with starting pitching depth more than worrying about losing him as a LOOGY.

     

    The Rosario, Landa, Jorge aspect of the decision is probably based on things we have no way of knowing for sure (injury status).

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    I think Dean shows that Milone and Nolasco are gone in some way. Protects a little bit with starting pitching depth more than worrying about losing him as a LOOGY.

    Starting pitching depth should be the least of this team's concerns right now, even if they deal Milone and somehow unload Nolasco.  Quality I understand, but not depth, at this point.

     

    Had he been chosen, I believe Pat Dean might be the oldest non-minor-league-free-agent Rule 5 pick ever selected, much less actually sticking.

     

    Pat Dean's K% vs LHB in AAA last year was 12.2%, lower than everybody on his team except Thielbar and Stauffer:

     

    http://minorleaguecentral.com/team?tid=5342015&split=201&amod=%3C%3D&age=99&hand=-1&time=0&type=pitcher&ymod=%3D&dyear=99&rmod=%3D&round=99&table=0

     

    This is a real head-scratcher any way you slice it.

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    Not sure I get the Dean thing, I know Jeremy and Seth say the Twins like him, but how much of that might be an overreaction to losing Gilmartin?

     

    Rogers, O'Rourke, and probably Darnell are all ahead of him for left handed relief duty, probably Rogers and Darnell for starting duty too (not to mention Milone).

     

    Rosario seems like a stretch too, 65 inning in A-ball (and not high-A), 6.8 K/9, 3.88 ERA (5.54 if you include unearned runs, admittedly more frequent at lower levels).  No real experience pitching out of relief yet either.

     

    I'm sure they have no interest in Rosario working out of the bullpen any time soon.

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    I'm sure they have no interest in Rosario working out of the bullpen any time soon.

    I was just noting his experience, I thought some relief experience could have made him a more likely Rule 5 selection, although now that I think about it, plenty of guys are picked as starters and moved to relief.  (Not a lot of guys before high-A, though.)

     

    Now that he's on the 40 man roster, though, I could see them fast-tracking Rosario in the pen.  Otherwise, trying to give him a conservative innings progression, it could be 2 years before he even reaches AAA, which would be a lot of time to hang out on the 40-man roster, especially if we hope to be competing these years.

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    I was just noting his experience, I thought some relief experience could have made him a more likely Rule 5 selection, although now that I think about it, plenty of guys are picked as starters and moved to relief.  (Not a lot of guys before high-A, though.)

     

    Now that he's on the 40 man roster, though, I could see them fast-tracking Rosario in the pen.  Otherwise, trying to give him a conservative innings progression, it could be 2 years before he even reaches AAA, which would be a lot of time to hang out on the 40-man roster, especially if we hope to be competing these years.

     

    I would expect it will be. I'd think Rosario will spend all of 2016 in Ft. Myers. And all of 2017 in Chattanooga... Kind of the same thing that Kepler did... and what Polanco would have done as well (although he had his MLB cups of coffee and a little Rochester time this year). 

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    Seth the Only explanation is that he is infact, Randy Rosario himself

     

    Well, the interesting thing is that I had heard about Rosario being added and I was just curious how that was possible... but either way... that was a good call.

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