Which Hitter Will The Twins Call Up?

Maybe so.

And maybe that's an example of how and why an organization sits at 6-14, loses 390 games in a four year stretch, and has won one playoff series in two decades under the current GM.

This is the major leagues. It's a zero sum game, and some organizations are only too happy to get the W at your expense if you run around thinking otherwise.

I really wish I could argue with you. 

This is a very competitive game and the decisions the Twins don't seem to value add up over time.  A table roll over to the better poker players.

Like not signing a quality reliever or two this off-season.  Really a meager investment that we passed on.  The results, May will likely never start again and our 40 man is a total mess because going quantity over quality kind of hurts you here.  This bleeds over to our 25 man as well, giving your manager no bench options over a period of time.

We were years behind in defensive shifting.  Other teams were doing it because it works.  We have never devoted a position to a platoon. 

I am sure we could come up with more.  The reality is it is not the head coach, or the hitting coach, it is the culture.  The culture here is one that lags many years behind the league and constantly plays catch up.  Culture can only change from the GM on down. 

There are a few complaints on here about the lack of a plan that "forced" the team to carry 14 pitchers.

 

With E. Santana being pushed back to to a stiff back, the plan was to call up Duffey to pitch on Sunday on send him back down after the game. With D. Santana set to come of the DL on Monday they optioned Polanco to bring in Duffey and were planning to do a Duffey/D. Santana swap after the game.

 

2 things happened that changed that plan.

First, Duffey got hit by a line drive and can't be optioned until it is determined that he is healthy enough to pitch his next turn.

Second, the game went 16 innings and several of or BP arms will be unavailable for the entire Cleveland series.

 

The 2 unexpected events that occurred on the same day forced this dilemma. They'll get down to 13 pitchers once it is determined whether Santana needs to go on the DL and/or Duffey is deemed healthy enough to be sent down. They'll get back to 12 when Plouffe gets activated next week.

The first part is not true.

They can send Duffey down and if it turns out he is too hurt to pitch they can retroactively put him on the mlb DL.

They also could put one of them on the DL. Either one is fine.

All I ever hear is that we have a ton of SP depth and it takes 7 or 8 starters to get through a season.

If that is true, then why are we afraid to put one of these guys on the DL?

In Ervins case, he'd only miss one more start.

Second, I don't think Plouffe is anywhere near returning. This is typically a 6 to 8 week injury, and while everyone heals at a different rate, I don't think I've heard any reports of him swinging a bat.

There are a few complaints on here about the lack of a plan that "forced" the team to carry 14 pitchers.

 

With E. Santana being pushed back to to a stiff back, the plan was to call up Duffey to pitch on Sunday on send him back down after the game.  With D. Santana set to come of the DL on Monday they optioned Polanco to bring in Duffey and were planning to do a Duffey/D. Santana swap after the game.

 

2 things happened that changed that plan.

First, Duffey got hit by a line drive and can't be optioned until it is determined that he is healthy enough to pitch his next turn.

Second, the game went 16 innings and several of or BP arms will be unavailable for the entire Cleveland series.

 

The 2 unexpected events that occurred on the same day forced this dilemma.  They'll get down to 13 pitchers once it is determined whether Santana needs to go on the DL and/or Duffey is deemed healthy enough to be sent down.  They'll get back to 12 when Plouffe gets activated next week.

I think this fails to see the forest.  Our closers have blown more saves than they closed out.  Fien and Jepsen can't get anyone out and Perkins is hurt again.

Lastly, Trevor May is striking out over 14 guys per 9 innings and he is slated to pitch only 60-70 innings this year.

The construction of the pen and lack of foresight about the back end has been the issue, causing us to keep a zillion mediocre pitchers to fill the void.

Likely not true.  See my reply to you on the other thread for numerous examples of teams rescinding options to retroactively put players on the MLB DL:

 

http://twinsdaily.com/topic/22174-article-roster-shuffle-buxton-and-kepler-out-meyer-and-santana-in/page-7?do=findComment&comment=469999

Yeah, Berardino didn't understand how that works which seems to be leading to all this confusion. Duffey could be sent down now

They had plenty of ways to NOT have a 2 man bench, but chose not to

For a bench player, Mastro. He can pinch run, and play defense. I don't think Plouffe will be back quite as soon as some think. There is no sense to bring up Vargas or ABW. the Twins are overloaded with corner IF and OF players, and even if ABW were on the bench, Kurt would still hit with the bases loaded and down 4, two outs in the ninth!

That's why we have a losing record.  Expecting different results by doing the same thing.  You would leave in Susuki in that situation before giving ABW a chance to tie things up.  Wow

Why not take a flier on kid who is a proven run producer?  Could he be any worse than ............................................

Plus your current therapist  needs a therapist!

Your fifty minutes are up!

Everybody, get off the couch!
Your fifty minutes are up!

If the Twins keep losing a lot of the TD posters are going to start needing two hour appointments!!

If the Twins keep losing a lot of the TD posters are going to start needing two hour appointments!!

Needs to be a leadoff hitter.  Dozier is NOT a leadoff hitter.  Is Dan Gladden available?  Lou Brock?  Ricky Henderson?