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    Brandon Warne

    There’s a Minnesota Twins player who has quietly turned himself into one of the best players in the American League at his position, and it might be time the team takes notice financially.

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    It’s not Joe Mauer, who is still signed to that hotly-contested deal through 2018. It isn’t Brian Dozier, who inked a four-year, $20 million extension just before the season started.

    No, it’s third baseman Trevor Plouffe, whom many in Twins Territory regard as flyover country geographically speaking. But while most weren’t watching, Plouffe outperformed the following third basemen last year in wOBA (a Fangraphs metric that takes all hits and properly weighs them before scaling them to on-base percentage for ease of consumption):

    Pablo Sandoval

    Evan Longoria

    David Freese

    David Wright

    Xander Bogaerts

    Nick Castellanos

    Now that’s a who’s who of third basemen in a couple of different respects. Of course, a number of those guys had down years, but it’s worth noting that with offense down league wide, Plouffe bucked that trend to have easily his finest big league season — finishing 11th among 24 ‘qualified’ third sackers. Plouffe batted .258/.328/.423, good for a .331 wOBA. For some context, the league-average AL third baseman batted .254/.314/.397, good for a .314 wOBA that places Plouffe a solid 5-ish percent above average.

    It wasn’t just offensively where Plouffe made strides either, as defensive metrics ranked him somewhere between the third and fifth best fielder at third base in the AL last year. And even if defensive numbers leave you feeling confused — quite frankly, that’s probably appropriate — think about this: do you still find yourself catching your breath before each of his throws across the diamond? If that isn’t sign of improvement, nothing is.

    So how did Plouffe reinvent himself?

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    I'm not necessarily against a Plouffe extension but I wouldn't fall over myself to get it done.

     

    Let Sano play for a season and then reevaluate. That may mean you don't extend Plouffe because he becomes too expensive but it also means you have a better idea of what you need and you're not shuffling players out of position to keep a guy you extended but don't *really* need.

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    I'm not necessarily against a Plouffe extension but I wouldn't fall over myself to get it done.

     

    Let Sano play for a season and then reevaluate. That may mean you don't extend Plouffe because he becomes too expensive but it also means you have a better idea of what you need and you're not shuffling players out of position to keep a guy you extended but don't *really* need.

     

    The point is that if you do this, you end up signing Plouffe to a market rate deal through his age 35-36 season....

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    The point is that if you do this, you end up signing Plouffe to a market rate deal through his age 35-36 season....

    Or you just let him go for a comp pick when he hits FA if he's that good. It's likely that the Twins will get the best of Plouffe by the time he hits free agency. If Sano is a third baseman, you can trade Trevor or just let him walk. He's not the type of player who will make or break the team.

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    If it was so easy to find 2-3 WAR players, the Twins wouldn't keep losing 90 games every season, having zero OF, and signing OLD bad RP to deals......getting rid of guys like Plouffe is not a winning strategy*

     

    *assuming he's this good

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    If it was so easy to find 2-3 WAR players, the Twins wouldn't keep losing 90 games every season, having zero OF, and signing OLD bad RP to deals......getting rid of guys like Plouffe is not a winning strategy*

     

    *assuming he's this good

    The Twins won't lose Plouffe until November of 2017 no matter whether they extend him or not. Plouffe will be entering his age 32 season when they "lose" him.

     

    I'm not saying the Twins shouldn't sign Plouffe, I'm saying they shouldn't sign him right now because if Sano pans out at third base, they will no longer need Trevor and can use that money to fill a hole at a position of need.

     

    There is simply no reason to make this decision right now. In five months, we'll have a much better idea of what Sano can be and where he will play.

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    If it was so easy to find 2-3 WAR players, the Twins wouldn't keep losing 90 games every season, having zero OF, and signing OLD bad RP to deals......getting rid of guys like Plouffe is not a winning strategy*

     

    *assuming he's this good

     

    I only support "getting rid" of Plouffe in a trade where we are getting value back.  And we should only go down that road if we are confident Sano sticks at 3B. If waiting a year ends up costing us his age 33 season and $13M....better than making this decision too early and botching it.  We went a really, really long time between Koskie and Plouffe at 3B.  I don't want to do that again.

     

    But you have wonder whether a .722 career OPS, .750 high end is a 3 WAR player in LF.  Especially when his defense could be bad.  And if we kept him, we might just be pushing a potential 4-5 WAR 3B to the OF or DH, where he will lose a few wins.

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