Jump to content
Twins Daily
  • Create Account
  • Twins/Tigers Players Vote to Postpone Tonight's Game


    Seth Stohs

    On Thursday afternoon, news came that the Twins players had voted to not play tonight's game in Detroit against the Tigers. Soon after, it was also noted that the Tigers players did the same thing. It is a postponement. The game will be made up at a later date.

    Image courtesy of Raj Mehta, USA Today

    Twins Video

    "As long as our players are empowered and able to speak their minds, then we're doing something right." Rocco Baldelli, Minnesota Twins Manager

    Rocco Baldelli said that his team has had several meaningful discussions over the past 24 hours about what is going on in the country. There have been individual conversations, discussions in small groups and later in the day, the group assembled.

    One player stood up first, and said, "I don't think we should play today."

    Baldelli said that player was Taylor Rogers. He was followed by Nelson Cruz and Trevor May in voicing their similar thoughts to the team.

    The manager said, "It was a very powerful gathering. The players were in solidarity in the decision. We ultimately formally raised our hands and unanimously voted not to play out of respect for all. I'm very proud of the way it was handled by our group, respectfully and thoroughly."

    Baldelli said that he had several discussions with Tigers manager (and former Twins manager) Ron Gardenhire before this and that the Tigers also held emotion-filled meetings and voted the same way.

    2020 has been a difficult year on so many fronts. Baldelli continues to lead by encouraging and facilitates open communications,

    "This goes back to when we were all home and the only thing we could do was meet on Zoom calls and we would talk. We talked about a lot of things that we've never gotten into, a lot of topics that we've literally never broached in baseball. In my 20 years of baseball, I've never seen any of these types of discussions live and in person. We've had more discussions about inequality and how people are feeling and how it's affecting them at the field, away from the field, how it affects loved ones, and so many aspects of this that have long been something that people have kept to themselves, and that's not healthy."

    Baldelli noted that the focus so much has been about what is happening today, but he also understands that the important discussion also has to be What is Next?

    "How this affects tomorrow exactly, I don't know if anyone can answer that question. I think it's something that a lot off people are thinking about. I know that I don't have the answer for that. I just know that what we decided to do today was most definitely the right thing to do for our group, and we feel very good leaving the ballpark today about the way it was handled and the message it sends to everyone inside our clubhouse and outside our clubhouse."

    He continued, "I think that the impact of what has been going on it sports is going to be felt throughout... If it wasn't meaningful. If it wasn't something that we thought was sending not only the right message but something that can push us toward getting more of the result of what people are looking for, which is the acknowledgement of all the different inequalities that continue to exist in our country and not ignoring these things."

    The Twins have a lot of players from all around the world, some of whom don't know the country's history or follow current events. Baldelli said that's OK, but they do have a very key role on the team.

    "What they are responsible for is to always been there for their teammates, and to always be willing to listen to their teammates. That is something we have been very very able to do from the beginning of this that has allowed us to get to this point to allow us to have the discussions we had today."

    He continued by saying something that should resonate with all of us, "And if you have an open ear and an open heart for the people around you, you're going to be in good shape, and that's what our guys have done."

    Baldelli added, "I'm actually really happy that I'm in baseball right now, to be experiencing everything that's going on. Baseball is a wonderful game. We all love showing up at the ballpark every day. We all love being able to focus on our jobs. We all love being able to step out there on the field and be out there on the grass watching guys do great things on the field. But I'm also really happy to be spending this moment with our group, going through everything that we're going through, experiencing it all, and feeling like we are doing something very positive, not just for baseball but for the country and for all people.

    On Friday, the Twins will be back on the field for two games.

    https://twitter.com/morsecode/status/1299100858257477632

    Press release from the Twins::

    “The Minnesota Twins remain committed to using our platforms to push for racial justice and equality. Therefore, we fully respect our players for their decision to not play tonight’s game versus the Detroit Tigers. The recent shooting of Jacob Blake, a mere three months after the killing of George Floyd, shows again that real change is necessary and far overdue in our country, and it is our responsibility to continue playing a role in efforts to affect meaningful reform. We stand in solidarity with the Black community and, as full partners with others in the Twin Cities and beyond, we are committed to creating the change we want to see in the world – where everyone is protected, safe and welcome. There is no place for racism, inequality or injustice in our society.”

    MORE FROM TWINS DAILY
    — Latest Twins coverage from our writers
    — Recent Twins discussion in our forums
    — Follow Twins Daily via Twitter, Facebook or email
    — Become a Twins Daily Caretaker

     Share

     Share


    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments



    Featured Comments

    It seems like there's an awful lot of unwarranted cynicism here regarding the players' actions and statements. I challenge you to watch the video of Dominic Smith's statement from yesterday and tell me that there aren't players who care and haven't been truly affected by this situation.

     

    https://www.mlb.com/news/dominic-smith-kneels-during-national-anthem

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    It seems like there's an awful lot of unwarranted cynicism here regarding the players' actions and statements. I challenge you to watch the video of Dominic Smith's statement from yesterday and tell me that there aren't players who care and haven't been truly affected by this situation.

     

    https://www.mlb.com/news/dominic-smith-kneels-during-national-anthem

    There is more than one side to this story, there’s not a right and a wrong side , there are two sides, maybe more even
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I didn't invent that story. I was pointing out the consequences of the story. I'm not demanding anything. I'm pointing out that The Twins " Statement" is completely empty. It's selfish. It's virtue singling and nothing more as it stands right now because there are no consequences. Some want to praise The Twins - pat them on the backs - when they didn't do anything. Their action was actually inaction.

    Here’s the thing.

     

    You demand a sacrifice of some sort. There was a football player recently who kneeled during national anthems to raise awareness of this. And he suffered the consequences. He sacrificed his football career for this.

     

    Thoughts?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Here’s the thing.

     

    You demand a sacrifice of some sort. There was a football player recently who kneeled during national anthems to raise awareness of this. And he suffered the consequences. He sacrificed his football career for this.

     

    Thoughts?

    Nike pays him more than any football team would, he had a chance to come back and chose to skip his tryouts, he hasn’t sacrificed anything
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    I don't want to make this too long. I'm an old white guy. I live 7 blocks from where George Floyd was murdered and 3 blocks from the carnage on Lake St in May. I have suffered a loss because of the riots.  I also enjoy baseball. A lot. Herb Carneal was the background noise of my summers growing up.

     

    I also roll my eyes at some celebrities who have spoken out about some cause. (Movie stars testifying before Congress? Really?) 

     

    To me this is different. If the players haven't experienced racism personally, they know who has. Players, who if they are not black or brown, are living and playing ball with black and brown players from February to September (I only wish it was through October). They are comrades and going through the grind together. That the players, unanimously, decided not to play is a testament to their solidarity and love for one another. 

     

    Sure, they are all going to get paid for the game, eventually. They won't be punished monetarily. I guess I don't care if they aren't paying a monetary price. They have a platform and they are making a statement. I care about that, and I care about the fact that as a team they thought this was important that these issues of race are brought up. I wholeheartedly agree with them. This is very, very important

    Great post, thank you for contributing.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Nike pays him more than any football team would, he had a chance to come back and chose to skip his tryouts, he hasn’t sacrificed anything

    Yikes, this is a bad take. The NFL literally settled a lawsuit Kap filed against them, accusing the league and teams of blackballing him during the prime years of his career.

     

    Is losing the prime years of one's career, a profession that only exists on a very short timeline, not a sacrifice to you?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Here’s the thing.

    You demand a sacrifice of some sort. There was a football player recently who kneeled during national anthems to raise awareness of this. And he suffered the consequences. He sacrificed his football career for this.

    Thoughts?

     

    He opted out of his contract and is doing far better now through endorsements than he would have actually having to play in the league. The farce he pulled when he got a tryout showed how serious he was about playing.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Here’s the thing.

     

    You demand a sacrifice of some sort. There was a football player recently who kneeled during national anthems to raise awareness of this. And he suffered the consequences. He sacrificed his football career for this.

     

    Thoughts?

    I'm not sure of the reference. Is it in regards to Colin Kapernick?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Yikes, this is a bad take. The NFL literally settled a lawsuit he filed against them, accusing the league and teams of blackballing him during the prime years of his career.

    so he didn’t skip his tryout?, settling lawsuits keep you out of court
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    There is more than one side to this story, there’s not a right and a wrong side , there are two sides, maybe more even

    Not sure by what you mean when you say there is not a right or wrong side. If there is no wrong side then we make no judgements and there is no need for a criminal justice system.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Yikes, this is a bad take. The NFL literally settled a lawsuit Kap filed against them, accusing the league and teams of blackballing him during the prime years of his career.

     

    Is losing the prime years of one's career, a profession that only exists on a very short timeline, not a sacrifice to you?

    such a bad example, as privileged as they come, you’ll never convince me he was a victim of anything
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    such a bad example, as privileged as they come, you’ll never convince me he was a victim of anything

    And the other guys who were the forerunners of kneeling are still in the league...

     

    Although they didn’t wear socks of a cartoon pig in a cop hat while at a team practice so i don’t know

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Not sure by what you mean when you say there is not a right or wrong side. If there is no wrong side then we make no judgements and there is no need for a criminal justice system.

    I was responding to an accusation of cynicism towards athletes , nothing about crime and justice
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Yikes, this is a bad take. The NFL literally settled a lawsuit Kap filed against them, accusing the league and teams of blackballing him during the prime years of his career.

     

    Is losing the prime years of one's career, a profession that only exists on a very short timeline, not a sacrifice to you?

    The NFL settled for PR purposes, not in any way an admission of guilt. Let’s at least be honest here (on both sides). Really tired of half-truths (from both sides) in an attempt to gain a moral high ground and feeling of superiority (it accomplishes the opposite, fools task).

     

    Full disclosure for the mob (not that I care what you think), but I fully respect and endorse the right to exercise free speech and protest for justifiable causes. That’s America.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    And the other guys who were the forerunners of kneeling are still in the league...

     

    Although they didn’t wear socks of a cartoon pig in a cop hat while at a team practice so i don’t know

    Kaepernick never had an issue when he was starting qb. He gets benched so he realizes there’s no future in football and his career needs to go in a different direction. He’s actually a genius
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    If every potential act of injustice (the recriminations typically begin before most of the facts are even established) causes pro sports to cancel its games, then pro sports no longer can exist. In a country the size of the US, even if every "reform" in the book is passed, you would be able to find a case of potential injustice every day without too much trouble, usually worse than the situation that caused this round of cancellations. Or is the policy to only protest when something has already gone viral? 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    My wife is an attorney, I'm well aware why corporations settle lawsuits.

     

    And it's usually *not* because they're 100% free of guilt.

    Its not really a big surprise that teams were reluctant to sign him
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    I was responding to an accusation of cynicism towards athletes , nothing about crime and justice

    Totally on the level here. I watched the clip of Smith and he was talking about how hard it is to be a black man in America. Are there other sides to the story that haven't been talked about by MLB players?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Totally on the level here. I watched the clip of Smith and he was talking about how hard it is to be a black man in America. Are there other sides to the story that haven't been talked about by MLB players?

    Not the other side at all but if you haven't seen The Athletic's roundtable with Black former MLB players, it's definitely worth a click. It also includes two Twins players, Hunter and Hawkins.

     

    https://theathletic.com/1849574/2020/06/02/a-conversation-retired-african-american-mlb-players-on-race-baseball-america/

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Kaepernick never had an issue when he was starting qb. He gets benched so he realizes there’s no future in football and his career needs to go in a different direction. He’s actually a genius

    This is a tired and false argument. Kaepernick has put his time and money where his mouth (and knee) is, and he's sacrificed more than almost any other professional athlete has for this cause. The idea that he did this for "publicity" is asinine, and I can tell that you've made your mind up about his intentions regardless of the evidence.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This is a tired and false argument. Kaepernick has put his time and money where his mouth (and knee) is, and he's sacrificed more than almost any other professional athlete has for this cause. The idea that he did this for "publicity" is asinine, and I can tell that you've made your mind up about his intentions regardless of the evidence.

    Roberto Clemente
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This is a tired and false argument. Kaepernick has put his time and money where his mouth (and knee) is, and he's sacrificed more than almost any other professional athlete has for this cause. The idea that he did this for "publicity" is asinine, and I can tell that you've made your mind up about his intentions regardless of the evidence.

    Agree. Several years removed, and people tend to forget. When he started, he was all by himself.
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This is a tired and false argument. Kaepernick has put his time and money where his mouth (and knee) is, and he's sacrificed more than almost any other professional athlete has for this cause. The idea that he did this for "publicity" is asinine, and I can tell that you've made your mind up about his intentions regardless of the evidence.

    He has tens of millions of dollars in endorsements, and is clearly set up better than had he stayed in the league as a backup qb. He’s not living under a bridge..

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    If every potential act of injustice (the recriminations typically begin before most of the facts are even established) causes pro sports to cancel its games, then pro sports no longer can exist. In a country the size of the US, even if every "reform" in the book is passed, you would be able to find a case of potential injustice every day without too much trouble, usually worse than the situation that caused this round of cancellations. Or is the policy to only protest when something has already gone viral?

    That’s what gets me....the selectivity of the tragedy (on both sides). It’s fraudulent. It happens before the facts come out. Or, facts are ignored entirely. Assumptions are made. Only certain beneficial fragments of the story are used (some of the headlines I’ve seen are abhorrent and unethical, at best). Words are twisted.

     

    Two cities in our neck of the woods burned last night. These are our brothers and sisters (any race, religion, creed). It’s only escalating (on both sides). Over 30 people have been murdered in these riots (but it’s not a big deal until it fits the narrative like the shooter in Kenosha). The left wouldnt denounce the violence until it showed up the polls, but leveraged it when they thought it helped (truly disgusting). The right is villianizing the entire movement over the actions of relatively few (again, disgusting). There’s no discourse, here. Both sides have devolved into a truly shameful lack of integrity. It’s really sad diagnostic for humanity. People on both sides somehow carry on with a feeling of righteousness. News flash, both extremes are extremely dangerous and a bane on our society.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    This is a tired and false argument. Kaepernick has put his time and money where his mouth (and knee) is, and he's sacrificed more than almost any other professional athlete has for this cause. The idea that he did this for "publicity" is asinine, and I can tell that you've made your mind up about his intentions regardless of the evidence.

    cmon, you can’t presume to know anything about me, you can’t tell me what I’ve made up my mind about, I wouldn’t do that to you. It’s an unfair criticism, implying I have some character flaw
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites




    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

    Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...