Twins Get Crushed In Game 2

I believe if Houston wins they would be 1 1/2 games up on the Twins, Currently they are dead even with the Angels at 83-75.

This Jose Ramirez pimping on his HR late in the game could make for an interesting dynamic in tomorrow's game. Suzuki, Brunansky and Molitor were really on his case as he rounded the bases. Eddie Rosario even had a few words for Ramirez as he passed by him on his 9th inning shot.  

Look for a few brush back pitches tomorrow...maybe from both teams.

We only scored 1 run anyway and were kind of due for a game like this.   Good news is gaining half a game on LA and possibly half on Houston who are behind right now.    A lot of grief given to the bullpen but really this is the kind of game where they tended (seemed so to me anyway) to give up most of the runs.    The ones they were likely to lose anyway.   Of course they lost some games for us but every bull pen does and frankly, it seemed like most of them were by our all star closer.   They had a lot of 4 and 5 inning games where they kept us in it by giving up 1 or fewer.

Or how about not doing anything about it because getting mad about it is stupid to begin with? Maybe they can pretend for awhile they aren't children?

Since the Twins have an excess of healthy and high quality pitchers, I can see no reason for them not to initiate a bean ball war today! Besides none of the suspensions would likely be served until 2016!

Or how about not doing anything about it because getting mad about it is stupid to begin with? Maybe they can pretend for awhile they aren't children?

I've never understood this....I have (and still am) been playing baseball for a long time, and never have I got pissed if a guy *showed* us up because he hit an HR or did something big.  Baseball, the game itself, will take care of whatever injustice happens when an opposing player celebrates too much for someones liking.  If the Twins are that pissed that he hit a HR, don't serve up a meatball.  Strike him out next time.  Otherwise, stop whining.

I don't think I will ever think of Pelfrey and a Twin. Just a visitor here that stayed 2 years past his welcome, for me. I won't miss him, and will be glad to seem him pitching batting practice on a visiting team when he comes to Target.

Or how about not doing anything about it because getting mad about it is stupid to begin with? Maybe they can pretend for awhile they aren't children?

It's a child's game, after all.

Can we have Pelfrey clean out his locker now, or do we have to wait until the end of the season?

For the Ramirez HR thing, I have no problem with the Twins sending a message. I wish Nolasco would have put one right on Lindor first pitch of that at bat, and then stared down Ramirez in the dugout.

For those saying it shouldn't be a big deal, realize that while this is just a game to us, it's a profession to the players. Imagine if you have a presentation to your boss, and a co-worker called out everything you did wrong, and then e-mailed a video of that to the whole company. Can anyone honestly say they wouldn't be upset?

this, 100% this. Who cares? It is only an insult if you decide to allow yourself to be bothered......so childish. It literally hurts no one to celebrate a HR.

Exactly.  Instead of saying we made a decision that backfired and our pitcher threw up a meatball, lets deflect it onto the batter who made us pay for the decision our manager made and lack of execution on the part of the pitcher.

That kind of behavior isn't childish AT ALL.

A: Not even close to the same thing. If my coworker celebrated his better presentation by high fiving someone, whatever. I might be annoyed for like 5 seconds.

B: I don't react to things that "upset" me with violence.

I love it when players and fans advocate throwing a 90 plus MPH pitch at player on purpose.  Nothing childish about that.

For the Ramirez HR thing, I have no problem with the Twins sending a message. I wish Nolasco would have put one right on Lindor first pitch of that at bat, and then stared down Ramirez in the dugout.

For those saying it shouldn't be a big deal, realize that while this is just a game to us, it's a profession to the players. Imagine if you have a presentation to your boss, and a co-worker called out everything you did wrong, and then e-mailed a video of that to the whole company. Can anyone honestly say they wouldn't be upset?

I think it would be closer to something like a competitor doing that rather than a co-worker. And in a highly competitive, testosterone-driven industry. I think I fall more in line with what you're advocating. Let the players sort this out.

Anyone remember the Sano benching a couple years back, after he show-boated after an absolute BOMB? The coaches did that becuase you DON'T DO THAT. Destroy the pitch. Put your head down. Run your bases. Celebrate with your team in the dugout or on your way back to the dugout, or at the plate. DO NOT TAUNT THE OPPOSING TEAM. It's unbecoming and unprofessional. If you do, expect to get what's coming to you. Throwing at someone is the consequence; you want to avoid that situation? Act right.

I don't agree with retribution but it's just a bit ironic to tell grown men who play a child's game for millions of dollars for a living to grow up.

It's a kids game, but it's also their job, for which they get paid tons of money, and they are adults. Suggesting adults shouldn't act like adults and excusing/encouraging violence because they play a kids game as their profession seems very silly to me.  Maybe their paychecks should be given to their parents to put into a trust?

I didn't say they shouldn't, I said it was ironic. In reality, none of them have ever really been asked to grow up.

Maybe the people in the game have done them a disservice in that regard.  Maybe that should change with the complete abandonment of a good chunk of the old school unwrittten rules.  

Violence does not equal childish behavior. Sometimes things need to be settled that way. I guess no one here likes hockey fights, UFC, Boxing, Martial Arts, etc? I'm not advocating free-for all; it should be settled in a controlled environment and within reason. Nor am I saying that those involved shouldn't have some third-party imposed penalty (fines, short-termed suspension, etc). But for Pete's sake, stop trying to wussify every damned aspect of life!

Violence does not equal childish behavior. Sometimes things need to be settled that way. I guess no one here likes hockey fights, UFC, Boxing, Martial Arts, etc? I'm not advocating free-for all; it should be settled in a controlled environment and within reason. Nor am I saying that those involved shouldn't have some third-party imposed penalty (fines, short-termed suspension, etc). But for Pete's sake, stop trying to wussify every damned aspect of life!

 

All those other sports you refer to are contact sports.  Baseball is not a contact sport.  And, with the exception of hockey, the whole point of those other sports is to fight.  And with hockey, checking is part of the game.

So yeah, I think it's easy to say people can like those sports and can still stand behind the idea that violence in baseball shouldn't be allowed and is childish.

I don't get how baseball is a child's game in the first place. That sounds like some kind of romantic statement that only a few really believe if they think about it. It is a profession, a really hard profession.

It seems like some folks want to classify it as a kids game simply because its termed a "game". Its fun (for those that have some skill), but does that make it a "game"? Under the broadest definition, isn't everything we do kind of a game in itself? Is there not competition against someone or something? Are there not obstacles to overcome in every job? Are you not having fun at your job, therefore, its not a game? Ever heard some guys retire from sports because it "wasn't fun anymore"? I've heard the same phrase (and experienced it myself) from people in the Military.

Like mike wants wins alluded to, playing baseball at the highest level (or any level) is difficult and requires hours and hours of work (like almost any proffession or anything in life). Don't try to trivialize what those have done to get to where they are and do what they do for a living. Ultimately, if you don't like it, go watch junior high school janitors mop floors and clean toilets. Its a lot less violent, thus less childish AND it costs a lot less.

All those other sports you refer to are contact sports.  Baseball is not a contact sport.  And, with the exception of hockey, the whole point of those other sports is to fight.  And with hockey, checking is part of the game.

 

So yeah, I think it's easy to say people can like those sports and can still stand behind the idea that violence in baseball shouldn't be allowed and is childish.

So the fist fights in hockey are part of the way the game is played? Not talking checking. Talking gloves off, punching in the throat and face. FIST. FIGHTS.