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  • Twins Close To Acquiring LHP Jaime Garcia?


    Seth Stohs

    Update Friday 4:44 - It's now been about 24 hours since Ken Rosenthal first tweeted that the Twins were close to acquiring Jaime Garcia. As things sit right now, Garcia is set to start for Atlanta and the trade talks are on hold as other teams are now involved. This has been very interesting, with several twists and turns. It will be nice to see it resolved, whatever that means. As fans, however, it is nice to know that the Twins front office is being aggressive and pursuing players as buyers at this time.

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    Ken Rosenthal was first to report that the Minnesota Twins are close to acquiring veteran LHP Jaime Garcia from the Atlanta Braves.

    Recently Rhett Bollinger tweeted that the Twins will trade a minor leaguer to the Braves to complete the deal. Jon Heyman has confirmed that it is a one-for-one deal.

    As of midnight Thursday night/Friday morning, the deal was not complete, but most seem to believe that it will still happen.

    As the deal becomes final and we learn more about the specifics, we will update this article.

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    The 31-year-old Garcia debuted with the St. Louis Cardinals in 2008. He stayed in that organization through the 2016 season when he was traded.

    Last offseason, he was traded to Atlanta in exchange for three minor leaguers.

    In 17 starts and 106 innings, Garcia is 3-7 with a 4.33 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP. He has walked 40 and struck out 81.

    While the front office has said that it wasn't interested in trading for rentals, Garcia is in the final season of a six year, $50 million deal. He is making $12 million this season. He likely has about $4 million remaining on the deal.

    Per Mike Berardino (or a source of his) it's possible the trade won't be completed until Friday.

    As Thursday turns into Friday, the deal has still not been finalized, though most still believe that it will happen.

    Check back for updates.

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    It depends on whether the source of rumors is in the Twins front office. Last week, Gee was being DFA 'd this week Garcia is being acquired; last winter, Dozier was going to the Dodgers. Some people don't like when their unfinished business becomes public, because it can be disruptive to the players involved and it makes you wonder if the rumor is an effort to squeeze you. My guess is that these are not malicious leaks, but instead are the product of inexperience. Nonetheless, even if another team likes Falvey and Levine personally, they could become cautious to engage in deep discussions, for fear of premature public disclosure. The Twins could benefit from a communications consultant.

     

    Sean Spicer is newly available.

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    what does an average pitcher cost?

     

    And, if you are upgrading from colon or Turley or Wilk or ????....average is a huge upgrade.

    Ervin Santana's numbers pre-Twins would be considered quite average. Probably even below average.

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    How much could the medicals really impact this thing? It's 2 months, and Garcia is healthy and pitching now. I can't fathom how medicals could be a difference maker here (unless the Twins were already hoping to re-sign Garcia).

    He could be pitching hurt.

     

    What we learned after the Padres shady dealings last year, I believe any issues or discomforts a player mentions to the trainer must be added to his medical file.

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    How much could the medicals really impact this thing? It's 2 months, and Garcia is healthy and pitching now. I can't fathom how medicals could be a difference maker here (unless the Twins were already hoping to re-sign Garcia).

     

    Could be. Or maybe its like when your dad went shopping for a $1000 used car but your mom only let him bring $500. So he pointed out every spot of rust and each tear in the upholstery in painstaking detail hoping to haggle the guy down on what was already a cheap car.

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    He could be pitching hurt.

    What we learned after the Padres shady dealings last year, I believe any issues or discomforts a player mentions to the trainer must be added to his medical file.

    If he is pitching hurt then I don't want him to be healthy

     

     

     

    His fastball velocity (90.7 mph) is at a career best. And according to FanGraphs linear weights, his sinker is playing at career-best levels at 6.5 runs, compared to his career best mark of 6.3 set in 2012.

    According to the Baseball Prospectus leaderboards, Garica’s sinker ranks fourth in swing-and-miss rate (21.9%) this seasons and ranks 12th in GB/FB ratio (6.42).

     

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    If it's a legit medical concern, I'd likely just drop the deal altogether. Guess it depends on what they think they know.

     

    Edit: haha ... I see others basically made the same comment ... note to self: read to end of thread first.

     

    Part of the issue is that Garcia's medical file was going to be crud. That was well known. He's injured his shoulder, neck, back, and pretty much everything involved in the pitching motion.

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    RickMahlerUnsungHero - this is the quote from TalkChop:

     

    My sister is dating a guy working locally for one of the Twins minor league affiliates. He tells her that they don’t know yet because they’re waiting for medical clearance, but they think maybe a catcher? (I know this is a stretch, but I just wanted to humblebrag about my potential brother-in-law. Don’t screw this up sis!)

     

    I liked the 'humblebrag' line.

     

    LOL...okay, that's not mine. The guy who wrote the article at Talking Chop got a lot of info from me and a number of the posters follow me on Twitter and were asking away last night, but that one is not mine.

     

    I also love the "humble brag" line...

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    Atlanta is rolling the dice. Garcia just had a good game. If he pitches tonight, it'll be one less start for his next team, meaning the compensation will go down. I'd make an offer that expires once he throws his first pitch.

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    Before the trade, all three were top 30 guys.

    Top 30 of Atlanta, not baseball. Dykstra not projected to be much of a hitter, Eliis has a ceiling of middle relief, not even set up. Gant lacks command to be a starter. At almost 25 still has not shown command to be a starter, has given up too many runs yo be a reliever. That is not any different than a year ago.  The Cards dumped a starter for low ranked prospects.

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    I just want to know the name of the discussed prospect regardless if the trade happens. I have been told that there is no chance of acquiring a competent starter for a 15ish ranked org prospect. This seems to indicate that is possible but we really don't know if 'decent' is more like 10ish or in the 20's.

    And my frustration with the board as a whole continues with the complaints about 'Why is Gibson even here (much less Colon)?' and the reluctance to trade any level prospect (except the Navaretto (almost non-prospect) level) for a decent/compentent pitcher like Garcia.

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    It makes a lot more sense to me if Atlanta leaked it.  They are the ones looking for more in return. 

     

    Except that'd be very, very odd by Coppy, who is incredibly tight-lipped about any discussions, as is anyone in the org as far as names.

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