Twins and 2020 Arbitration

Per Heyman, the Twins did not reach a deal with Jose Berrios. 

This is disappointing because I did not want a settlement this year, I wanted a settlement for the next five years.

 

Assuming we get actual dollar values, I'll update those in the article as well. 

I am dissappointed because the two that did not settle are the two I am most concerned about

They did.  He wants to go to arbitration for $300K difference and did not agree to a fair extension. 

They should show him the door while he still has some value.  It is clear that Berrios matters more to Berrios than the Twins matter to him.

No - we have established this off season that we cannot get pitchers to come to us - so lets keep the pitchers we have.

Alright, that's more like it, only one player going to arbitration court. I can't imagine this could get drawn out very long over just a $375K difference... right?

Not good to have this many cases go to arbitration. To me that means the Twins lowballed every single one of them. When will they learn. 

 

I'm guessing our best guys have had enough of their bosses already. Don't expect it to be easy to sign the rest of the core of this team to long term deals. 

Will you be willing to acknowledge that your extremely cynical claim was laughably wrong?

Your guess about guys having had enough of their bosses? I'm sorry, but that's delusional and maybe a sad wishfulness on your part. Unreal.

Do you have any idea, any idea at all, as to the percentage of arb eligible players who have reached an acceptable settlement each year? This is a rhetorical question.

Switch that around:  Berrios is willing to go to arbitration for $375K after he did not accept extension offers the last 2 offseasons. 

 

This is closer to the truth.

Why is it that the player is somehow bad that he wants to get optimal value for his services rendered?

The Berrios news (and the threat of him becoming a free agent at first opportunity) just makes this failure of an offseason that much worse.

 

The window may be short.

Not necessarily.

They did.  He wants to go to arbitration for $300K difference and did not agree to a fair extension. 

They should show him the door while he still has some value.  It is clear that Berrios matters more to Berrios than the Twins matter to him.

While I see how you could arrive at your conclusion, it's very possible that Berrios and his agent are simply holding out for more.

No - we have established this off season that we cannot get pitchers to come to us - so lets keep the pitchers we have.

Nothing of the sort was established. 

Twins are fighting Berrios over $375,000. Seems like a petty line to draw if you hope to build good faith with the player for a potential extension. 

This....uh...This.....and what a minute....THIS!!!!!!

The difference is 9%. After the Twins drafted him way higher than he was rated and made him an 18 year old millionaire. And the truth of the matter is that he has been the same pitcher for 3 seasons without improving. And he is willing to go to arbitration for that 9%?

 

The hey with him...

The draft has nothing to do with it. If he blew out his elbow, the team wouldn’t pay him for a full season because “he pitched very well and was undervalued for years”. Reliable sites put his value at $5.4M. He is very likely to win his arbitration case

It is the principle...

Would the twins have the same principle? Pay him what he’s worth. The last few years we got more value out of him than we paid (even including the draft). Like I said, Berrios will win this case quite easily

Pay up and buy two years of free agency from Berrios. It doesn’t need to be team friendly. There is a contract the will win this deal and the Twins have the resources to make it happen.

Will you be willing to acknowledge that your extremely cynical claim was laughably wrong?

 

Your guess about guys having had enough of their bosses? I'm sorry, but that's delusional and maybe a sad wishfulness on your part. Unreal.

 

Do you have any idea, any idea at all, as to the percentage of arb eligible players who have reached an acceptable settlement each year? This is a rhetorical question.

It was wrong in the fact that, yep, they settled with them. I'm not this hard headed type that won't budge on takes or admit when I am wrong. It happens. In fact, I am most likely wrong much more than I'm right! LOL

I'm sorry for being so cynical, but this offseason has really taken it's toll on me. I shouldn't be so negative, but man it's hard to watch/listen this winter. 

I'm glad they got a deal with Sano done. Looks like it's another "team friendly" deal for them. Good for them. I hope at some point they actually go for it though. I'm of the belief this core is pretty dang good and it's just an utter shame to not supplement them and fill holes with those "impact" players we always talk about. Seriously, this lineup is good enough to win a world series, or at least win a playoff series or two.