Twins 3, Mariners 2: A Buxton Bomb and Solid Pitching the Recipe that Leads to a Victory.

I was at the game, and Emilio Pagan is a worthy successor to Fernando Rodney.  The EPE is a real thing.

It is hard to know how to feel about this game.  The win is nice, and the stats look good for us, but................Seattle threw 5 pithers (out of 6) totaling 8 innings with ERA's ranging from 4.30 to 6.57 and a batting order that had 6 out of 9 batting between ,172 and ,234.  We were up 2-zip before an out had been recorded on either side and we barely won 3-2.  Again, it is good to get the win, but I sure was nervous the entire 27 outs.  It took 7 pitchers to put down a weak lineup (save for 2 guys) and we got a total of 3 runs against some pretty so so pitchers.  Once again, it was nice to get the win.  I just hope they don't all get that nerve wracking.  

3 hours ago, Mark G said:

It is hard to know how to feel about this game.  The win is nice, and the stats look good for us, but................Seattle threw 5 pithers (out of 6) totaling 8 innings with ERA's ranging from 4.30 to 6.57 and a batting order that had 6 out of 9 batting between ,172 and ,234.  We were up 2-zip before an out had been recorded on either side and we barely won 3-2.  Again, it is good to get the win, but I sure was nervous the entire 27 outs.  It took 7 pitchers to put down a weak lineup (save for 2 guys) and we got a total of 3 runs against some pretty so so pitchers.  Once again, it was nice to get the win.  I just hope they don't all get that nerve wracking.  

Yeah, agree that it's bothersome to see the Twins struggle so badly against subpar pitching. In their defense, they did manage 9 hits on the night - most coming from the top of the order. The bottom 3rd of the order (Larnach, Urshela, Celestino) was a horrific 1-for-11 with 7 strikeouts.

The Twins have several unimpressive wins this year, which is much better than having a bunch of impressive losses. Sometimes you just put the W in your pocket and don't think too much about how it got there.

According to the BP chart Moran/Duffey/Thornburg and Megill are the BP arms available tonight.  I hope the starter goes seven, but I doubt that Rocco would allow that on the first game back for Ryan.  

LOB and RISP say there's still work to do...

51 minutes ago, mikelink45 said:

According to the BP chart Moran/Duffey/Thornburg and Megill are the BP arms available tonight.  I hope the starter goes seven, but I doubt that Rocco would allow that on the first game back for Ryan.  

I think you could get an inning each out of the pitchers who worked last night.  Megill might have to be the bridge from Ryan to the end of game bullpen.  Duffey should not be used unless we are trailing big early

Thats the way it is supposed to work, Arraez leads off with a hit and Buxton cranks one.

Didn't see the game, but have learned to enjoy watching Archer pitch.  The way he bounces around the mound reminds me of a high school kid having the time of his life.  Love it.  Expect they are are going to be very careful with his innings so he can pitch 5 or 6 come the playoffs.

Seems like Jax is really settling into a nice role late in games.  Hopefully, Winder can return next week to be that long relief guy to back Archer up and save the rest of the pen.

18 minutes ago, roger said:

Thats the way it is supposed to work, Arraez leads off with a hit and Buxton cranks one.

Didn't see the game, but have learned to enjoy watching Archer pitch.  The way he bounces around the mound reminds me of a high school kid having the time of his life.  Love it.  Expect they are are going to be very careful with his innings so he can pitch 5 or 6 come the playoffs.

Seems like Jax is really settling into a nice role late in games.  Hopefully, Winder can return next week to be that long relief guy to back Archer up and save the rest of the pen.

Archer has some great energy, but I have to wonder if he is wasting some on the mound. In boxing you can plainly see when one fighter is bouncing around and the other calmer, the calm fighter has the clear stamina edge as the fight progresses. Other things being relatively equal, of course. 

When Joe Smith comes on to start an inning, he inevitably gives up a run.

But when Joe Smith comes on with bases loaded, nobody out, and Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, and Ted Williams up to bat, he's lights out with the minimum number of pitches.

7 hours ago, Cap'n Piranha said:

I was at the game, and Emilio Pagan is a worthy successor to Fernando Rodney.  The EPE is a real thing.

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Always happy to start a series out with a win. I wonder if the solution on Archer is to pair him with Winder and let them do piggyback starts, trying to get 4 innings out of each of them? (once Winder is back as well) Emptying the bullpen like this is going to be a bit harder once they have to reduce down to 13 pitchers. The schedule is unrelenting; except for the all-star break we're looking at only 2-3 days off a month for the team. But I thought Archer pitched pretty well; he's still finding his command and how to pitch without as good a stuff as he had early in his career, but the slider definitely still plays. As a 5th starter, he's a nice option. 

Arraez just keeps it going. Opposing pitchers have got to be sick of seeing him come up to the plate. (if he's able to punish mistakes with XBH a little more often that'll be even better, like we've seen recently) He's just a really tough out, and hitting him in front of Buxton, Correa, etc should put a lot of runs on the board.

I'll take the win!

Always take a win!  I do hope the Twins clean it up soon. They have been making too many fundamental mistakes. 
Taking a step back they have come through a horrible injury patch quite nicely and now we get two good starters back. 
Oh and Miranda needs to focus on third base wherever that may be. 

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catcher’s interference was called on Gary Sanchez after a review on what should have been ball one

I think you mean strike one. You can't have catcher's interference unless the batter swings.

1 hour ago, roger said:

Hopefully, Winder can return next week to be that long relief guy to back Archer up and save the rest of the pen.

Winder is a better starting pitcher than Bundy.

DJL44, it was a check swing on a pitch called a ball.  But the batter's check swing did slightly contact Sanchez's glove, so they awarded him 1st base after a Seattle challenge.  Never seen that before.....

1 hour ago, DJL44 said:

Winder is a better starting pitcher than Bundy.

True.  But hopefully, health permitting, they will soon have Gray, Ryan, Ober, Smeltzer and Archer.  With Winder piggy-backing with Archer and Bundy in long relief...or moved on down the road for a AA reliever, ala those two trades last July.  I forget which starter they sent to St. Louis, but after a rough couple months last fall Sisk is having a really nice year.

I could not stay up for full game, but when I look at boxscore I wonder why Archer would not go out for 5th.  I assume it is because they were going into 3rd time round on line up and for whatever reason he will never get a chance to go a third time round.  Maybe it is the right call every time, I mean we won, and none of the pitchers used threw a ton of pitches. 

I am glad to see both Ryan and Gray are slotted to pitch next two games.  

3 hours ago, Strombomb said:

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The Emilio Pagan Experience.  Basically, even when Pagan successfully closes out the game, it takes 20 pitches, 25 minutes, and invariably involves baserunners, often in scoring position.

11 minutes ago, Trov said:

I could not stay up for full game, but when I look at boxscore I wonder why Archer would not go out for 5th.  I assume it is because they were going into 3rd time round on line up and for whatever reason he will never get a chance to go a third time round.  Maybe it is the right call every time, I mean we won, and none of the pitchers used threw a ton of pitches. 

I am glad to see both Ryan and Gray are slotted to pitch next two games.  

It seems fairly clear at this point that Archer will be allowed to face 18 batters and no more.  As such, I honestly have no idea why they wouldn't use an opener for him, and the allow him to face 21 batters (since batters 19-21 would theoretically be 4-6 or 5-7 instead of 1-3).

3 hours ago, DJL44 said:

I think you mean strike one. You can't have catcher's interference unless the batter swings.

I'd love to know the rule.....it was called a ball.  There was no swing......strange.

2 hours ago, roger said:

True.  But hopefully, health permitting, they will soon have Gray, Ryan, Ober, Smeltzer and Archer.  With Winder piggy-backing with Archer and Bundy in long relief...or moved on down the road for a AA reliever, ala those two trades last July.  I forget which starter they sent to St. Louis, but after a rough couple months last fall Sisk is having a really nice year.

Seems like a very plausible scenario because it's not hard to see them moving Bundy once the others are healthy.  Plus, piggy-backing two guys that you don't want pitching a bunch of innings is a pretty good solution.

It was JA Happ that they sent to St. Louis and wouldn't it be something if Evan Sisk turned out to be useful BP piece for several years.  That would be quite a trade and a similar outcome from trading Bundy would be just great.