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  • Turning Trevor May Into Andrew Miller


    Cody Christie

    Bullpen usage is one of the most scrutinized parts of a managers job. This scrutiny is only heightened in the stress of the playoffs. With pitchers like Andrew Miller, Cody Allen, and Aroldis Chapman being used for multiple innings, a new era for bullpens has been thrust on the baseball world.

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    One of the most important pieces to Cleveland's playoff run was relief pitcher Andrew Miller, the ALCS MVP. He was once a starting pitching prospect before finding his home as a bullpen arm. Now he might be one of the most valuable assets in baseball.

    Miller was the sixth overall pick by the Detroit Tigers in 2006. He debuted with the club later that same season after making only three minor league appearances. His stay in Detroit was short as he was one of the key prospects sent to the Marlins for Miguel Cabrera. He bounced around to the Red Sox and Orioles organizations before finding himself in Yankee pinstripes.

    After arriving in the Big Apple, he posted a 1.90 ERA with 100 strikeouts in 61.2 IP during the 2015 season,. Opponents hit .151/.237/.239 against him. It was hard to build off that season but the 2016 campaign was even better. He lowered his ERA to 1.45 and increased his SO/9 from 14.6 to 14.9.

    As Miller was dominating the American League, Minnesota's bullpen compiled the league's worst ERA while providing a -2.66 win probability added. Ryan Pressly pitched the most relief innings while Brandon Kintzler had the most saves. Trevor May (12.66 K/9) and Michael Tonkin (10.05 K/9) both posted K/9 totals over 10.0. These small positive signs were overshadowed by a major injury to Glen Perkins and ineffective play from Kevin Jepsen.

    May is an interesting figure in the Twins bullpen. Expectations were high for him heading into last year. He underwhelmed to the tune of a 5.27 ERA and a 1.31 WHIP. Under the previous front office, there was talk of turning May back into a starter but another year in the bullpen could give him the chance to adjust to being a full-time reliever.

    Miller's first full season as a reliever came in 2012, his age-27 season. May turned 27 in September and is just coming off his first year without making a start. One of May's biggest issues has always been his command. He walked 17 batters in 42.2 innings pitched (3.6 BB/9). Miller walks almost no one as he issued nine walks in 32 more innings than May.

    Besides the control issues, May would need to continue to miss bats. Miller strikes out batters at a higher rate than May and he makes it tough for batters to reach base. The Twins are clearly in rebuilding mode so May won't likely be recording any big outs in the playoffs anytime soon. This type of environment can allow bullpen arms to develop as they start to figure out their craft in an environment with less pressure.

    Can May be the next Miller? It's a lofty goal and 2017 will be a critical for whatever future role May will fill. What kind of role do you think May should fill? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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    May should never have been a reliever this year. For a team with the worst everything in the pitching categories it boggles my mind why we are even talking about this.

     

     

    This might be more evidence of the lack of analytics and statistics under the previous GM.  Just what feels good.

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    May has consistently said he struggles with the prep of being a reliever and has experienced multiple injuries since the move.

     

    For the love of god let the kid try and be a starter.  I can't believe we're sitting here debating this when the only reason he got moved out of the rotation was the team deferring to Mike freaking Pelfrey.

     

    Using him out of the bullpen has led to injuries, ineffectiveness, and stripped us of a desperately needed, competent starter.  We already fixed the Plouffe mistake a year late, let's fix the May one too.

    It's not as if he averaged close to 150 IP in four years of MiLB play as a starter.

     

    Oh, wait. Yes, he did.

     

    The guy needs another shot at starting, especially given his durability as a starter and lack thereof as a reliever.

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    It's not as if he averaged close to 150 IP in four years of MiLB play as a starter.

     

    Oh, wait. Yes, he did.

     

    The guy needs another shot at starting, especially given his durability as a starter and lack thereof as a reliever.

     

    Hopefully that happens this year at the major league level.  May has good velocity and 4 pitches.  Too me it makes too much sense.  

     

    We weren't close to contention last year but they insisted on keeping him in the pen all season even when it became completely apparent that this was going to be losing campaign and EVEN after the starters bottomed out.  One really does have to question the coaches in addition to GM.

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    I don't think it is as simple as let's just make May be Andrew Miller.  If it were this way every team would deploy a hard throwing reliever in the same way the Indians used Miller.  

     

    Miller is incredibly talented and has a pitch that is a true "out" pitch.  At any given time he can throw it, and throw it where he wants to.  It is nearly unhittable.

     

    Trevor May does not have that, 95% of the pitchers don't have that. 

     

    Trevor May showed 2 months worth of being very good relief pitcher in 2015, then go hurt, then spent most of 2016 struggling and getting hurt.

     

    I think he needs to be starter or at least be given a chance to prove he can be a starter or a chance to fail as a starter.  

     

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    Never should have been moved out of the rotation at the time he was.

     

    His stuff plays up in a relief role, but that doesn't matter if he's hurt all the time because of it. He was a workhorse starter throughout his minor league career and never was hurt.

     

    It is not hard to make this correlation.

     

    I think he should finally get a legitimate shot in the rotation. If it doesn't work out, bullpen is still a fall back plan.

     

    Also, Duffey should be in the bullpen, and I would say this fact was far more apparent than it ever should have been for May.

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    May needs to start, Duffey to the pen (hitters figured him out).

     

     

    Talked to a loyal Rays fan, says they have the pitching, need hitters. Twins should dangle Dozier for there stud starters.

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