Jump to content
Twins Daily
  • Create Account
  • Trending (4/7): Too Early To Trend


    Jeremy Nygaard

    If you have a have bad game or two and people point it out, someone will rush to your defense and claim, “well it’s only one (or two) games… don’t worry!” But when you do someone well in a game or two, those same people will praise you for making adjustments (even if you didn’t).

    Or maybe it’s the exact opposite…

    Twins Video

    It was easy for many after the season opener to rip on Byron Buxton for his three strikeouts. And if you’re on Twitter, you may have seen a group take the opportunity to do so. Offensively, Buxton could probably use some seasoning in AAA, but it’s not as if he’s struggled at AA or AAA with the bat and his defense is so good that you simply couldn’t justify sending him to Rochester to start the season while letting someone else roam the middle of Target Field’s outfield.

    Despite the team-leading five strikeouts through Wednesday, Buxton is having some early-season success and getting - and taking advantage of - an opportunity to gain some valuable experience while hitting out of the 9-hole.

    Through two games and seven plate appearances, Buxton has seen 41 pitches, one more than Mauer (who has two more trips to the plate) and averages 5.86 pitches per plate appearances, which leds the team by over one pitch per trip. Yes, five of those have ended with Buxton walking back to the dugout, but if you’re looking for something that could foreshadow better days coming, this might be it.

    ccs-39-0-79251100-1459998669.png

    On the flip side of that, Rosario (2.88 pitches/PA), Dozier (3.56) and Sano (3.75) have combined for two hits in 21 at-bats and both of those hits have come off of the bat of Rosario, who has had at-bats where he’s looked absolutely lost.

    But unless you can write off a football team’s whole season after going three-and-out in their first two possessions of the year, you probably shouldn’t worry too much about that trio or the lineup in general.

    So because it’s only been only two games, we’re not going to talk about anyone TRENDING in any direction. It’s too early.

    On the pitching side of the ledger, Trevor May was extremely impressive in his season debut on Monday. Pitching two innings, throwing mid-90’s gas and striking out four, May was filthy.

    The rest of Monday was far from ideal, losing your starting pitcher two innings into the game due to a rain delay and running out every available reliever with the exception of the guy you can only use on the road in the event that you’re winning in the bottom of the last inning (which they weren’t).

    While Casey Fien and Kevin Jepsen were inept in the Opener and Kyle Gibson didn’t pitch to expectations on Wednesday, it’s two games in… and there’s still plenty of time to trend. Good or bad.

    MORE FROM TWINS DAILY
    — Latest Twins coverage from our writers
    — Recent Twins discussion in our forums
    — Follow Twins Daily via Twitter, Facebook or email
    — Become a Twins Daily Caretaker

     Share


    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments



    Featured Comments

    Sano's comments:

     

    After fouling off the first one, though, Sano completely missed the next two — letter-high and tempting.

     

    “I tried to be too aggressive for the pitch. I need to have patience at that moment so I can put it in play,” Sano said. The last one was “a little high. A little lower, and I can hit it out.”

     

    http://www.startribune.com/gibson-walks-four-in-twins-loss-to-orioles/374841491/

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    People, its going to be a long season if we question every time Molitor doesn't PH for his catcher with Ed freaking Nunez.

     

    Its a small sample, but Nunez is 6/32 with no HRs as a PH for his career, and 6 punchouts.

    I'll take regular old .680 Zuke over that guy 10/10.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    we were told we couldn't question molitor last year, he was "just a rookie".....and now we can't question the same moves so far this year.

     

    When can we question his not using his bench, or his odd penchant to pinch run?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    we were told we couldn't question molitor last year, he was "just a rookie".....and now we can't question the same moves so far this year.

     

    When can we question his not using his bench, or his odd penchant to pinch run?

    If there is a righthander on the mound, and 2 outs, and you need a HR (not contact), and Arcia sits while Suzuki bats, I'll be right there with you pitchfork in hand.

    But this looks to me like complaining for complaining's sake.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    People, its going to be a long season if we question every time Molitor doesn't PH for his catcher with Ed freaking Nunez.

    Its a small sample, but Nunez is 6/32 with no HRs as a PH for his career, and 6 punchouts.
    I'll take regular old .680 Zuke over that guy 10/10.

    Isn't this the same Ed Nunez who had the 2nd highest OPS on the team last season? I'm not claiming that you were one of the people advocating him to come back this season, but there were people who were. We heard all off-season how he's such a capable bench bat... Just trying to figure out what makes him a worse option than Suzuki. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Isn't this the same Ed Nunez who had the 2nd highest OPS on the team last season?

    Yep, the very same Eduardo Nunez with a .648 OPS against LHP last season and a career .686 mark against southpaws.

     

    I may have pinch-hit for Suzuki in that situation but I certainly can't get too worked up that Molitor didn't sub him out for an equally mediocre bat against southpaws.

     

    And you could argue that with a guy on second, Suzuki was more likely to get on base and continue the inning than Nunez. His career OBP against lefties is .025 higher than Nunez.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    I'm glad Mike pointed out the pinch hitting thing.  If you're going to pinch run Nunez for Suzuki anyway....why the hell don't you let the better hitter swing in that situation?

     

    I can't make sense of that.

     

    Could it be a confidence things? Do you want your manager taking you out of the game the first time you come up late in the game? Give the guy a chance, let him prove that he can do it or that he can't do it.

     

    As for the pinch-running, though, I don't want to get started on that...

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Isn't this the same Ed Nunez who had the 2nd highest OPS on the team last season? I'm not claiming that you were one of the people advocating him to come back this season, but there were people who were. We heard all off-season how he's such a capable bench bat... Just trying to figure out what makes him a worse option than Suzuki.

    I believe Nunez is the better hitter than Suzuki. But its well-documented that coming off the bench cold to pinch hit penalizes a batter, and Nunez (in a small sample) seems particularly prone to it. Fans always overlook this effect.
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Striking out on 3 94 mph fastballs was concerning to me.  They were a little up in the zone but over the plate

     

    It seemed to me Sano's bat had gone cold in late in spring training. It appears to have carried over to the regular season. A lot of swinging through pitches he had made contact with last year.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Baseball has changed over the past 5 years,  getting ahead and doing everything possible to get ahead is very important.  Most of the clubs now have close to shut down relief pitching from the 7th inning in, if not the 6th.  Looking through the box scores there were about 2 runs scored against the team ahead(not counting the Phillies) from the 6th inning in. (This is against bullpen pitchers).  So I do not see bunting early to get a run or two to be such a bad thing.   Starting pitching is still the weak spot of all this and getting ahead early is the easy way to win. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Team wins, homey. Best thing for the team. 

     

    Did we hear that it was a called sacrifice? My assumption is that Molitor wouldn't call for a bunt there. I"m certain Dozier bunted for a hit on his own. If that's the case, I won't complain about that at all.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    I'm glad Mike pointed out the pinch hitting thing.  If you're going to pinch run Nunez for Suzuki anyway....why the hell don't you let the better hitter swing in that situation?

     

    I can't make sense of that.

     

    Which one is the better hitter, and by how much?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    we were told we couldn't question molitor last year, he was "just a rookie".....and now we can't question the same moves so far this year.

     

    When can we question his not using his bench, or his odd penchant to pinch run?

     

    Who said we can't question Molitor or couldn't question him last year?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Did we hear that it was a called sacrifice? My assumption is that Molitor wouldn't call for a bunt there. I"m certain Dozier bunted for a hit on his own. If that's the case, I won't complain about that at all.

    Not even complain about Dozier's decision?  I mean, Buxton is our fastest runner, he's already in scoring position, and Dozier is one of our better hitters.  And I'm not sure he's a particularly good or experienced bunter.  There was a very good chance that he wouldn't get a hit and that Buxton's advancement on the play would be mostly meaningless (he could have advanced on a lot of different balls hit in play, or even stolen or advanced on the mildest of passed balls in a longer at-bat).

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Not even complain about Dozier's decision?  I mean, Buxton is our fastest runner, he's already in scoring position, and Dozier is one of our better hitters.  And I'm not sure he's a particularly good or experienced bunter.  There was a very good chance that he wouldn't get a hit and that Buxton's advancement on the play would be mostly meaningless (he could have advanced on a lot of different balls hit in play, or even stolen or advanced on the mildest of passed balls in a longer at-bat).

     

    I'm all for guys getting on base any way they can, and if in that situation Dozier felt good about a bunt hit, I have no problem with that. If he shows it more early, maybe 3B move in and it means more hits later in the season too. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Did we hear that it was a called sacrifice? My assumption is that Molitor wouldn't call for a bunt there. I"m certain Dozier bunted for a hit on his own. If that's the case, I won't complain about that at all.

    uhhh...I think our lines got crossed. We were talking about playing Bocaton at DH fulltime. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    I'm all for guys getting on base any way they can, and if in that situation Dozier felt good about a bunt hit, I have no problem with that. If he shows it more early, maybe 3B move in and it means more hits later in the season too. 

    He's a leadoff hitter.  He has lots of chances to show bunt that don't involve our fastest runner already in scoring position.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Team wins, homey. Best thing for the team. 

     

    If Sano goes from 6 WAR to 3 WAR by moving from 3B to DH, I am not sure how the team wins more.  Plouffe had 2.5 WAR last year and is likely declining.  So now our 3B and DH have fewer wins than just Sano at 3B.

     

    After seeing Sano move around and his general size, I have went from pinning this on the Twins to pinning it on Sano.  The belly flop play yesterday, seeing his size, etc.  I think the Twins concluded he was not sticking at 3B for more than a year or so and was likely not good there this year anyway. I think they were probably right. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    If Sano goes from 6 WAR to 3 WAR by moving from 3B to DH, I am not sure how the team wins more.  Plouffe had 2.5 WAR last year and is likely declining.  So now our 3B and DH have fewer wins than just Sano at 3B.

    I'm as much of a SABRbobo as the next guy, but here's where WAR becomes kinda stupid (or, alternatively, I become stupid for not understanding or bothering to really do so).  Aren't you trying to add up all the WAR from everyone on your team? Isn't that the only reasonable application for WAR? If Sano loses half his value by moving from RF to DH, I'll eat my shoe. Add one or two for the defensive value of the RF replacement, keep Plouffy's 2.5, and on the whole, your team should "win" more "games."

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    I'm as much of a SABRbobo as the next guy, but here's where WAR becomes kinda stupid (or, alternatively, I become stupid for not understanding or bothering to really do so).  Aren't you trying to add up all the WAR from everyone on your team? Isn't that the only reasonable application for WAR? If Sano loses half his value by moving from RF to DH, I'll eat my shoe. Add one or two for the defensive value of the RF replacement, keep Plouffy's 2.5, and on the whole, your team should "win" more "games."

     

    I think the logic is you can find someone to have an .800-.850 OPS and DH.  If we gave Quentin those reps this year he may.  Or you find some former corner OF that is aging. 

     

    So the combo of that guy at DH and Sano at 3B is going to yield far more wins than Sano at DH and Plouffe's .720 OPS at 3B.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    I think the logic is you can find someone to have an .800-.850 OPS and DH.  If we gave Quentin those reps this year he may.  Or you find some former corner OF that is aging. 

     

    So the combo of that guy at DH and Sano at 3B is going to yield far more wins than Sano at DH and Plouffe's .720 OPS at 3B.

    OK, I get where you're coming from. And where you're coming from, Plouffe isn't a Twin anymore. Sounds like a nice place. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I'm actually more concerned about Sano than Buxton at this point.

     

    Sano is chasing some really bad pitches. He just doesn't look as confident at the plate as he did last year. I think the effects of trying to play outfield is a real concern. Baseball is a game of confidence, and struggles in one area always seem to seep in other parts of the game. A lot of it has to do with pitchers having better scouting reports, but will he be able to make the necessary adjustments? I honestly can't say one way r the other at this point. Although, he did look much better last night, IMO (while DHing).

     

    Buxton, on the other hand, looks like his approach is much more refined this year. It looks sustainable. He's laying off those tough pitches, like fastballs up and out of zone, and breaking balls that start on the outside corner and break off the plate. When he is swinging, it seems to be a pitch he wants, and he swing with authority. That's just wasn't there last year. The strikeouts will eventually come down as he accumulates at bats.

     

    Another note: Dozier really concerns me right now. Pitchers are pounding him away, and he can't seem to figure it out. He could have a rough year. Hopefully they don't keep him in the lead off spot much longer.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

     

    Not even complain about Dozier's decision?  I mean, Buxton is our fastest runner, he's already in scoring position, and Dozier is one of our better hitters.  And I'm not sure he's a particularly good or experienced bunter.  There was a very good chance that he wouldn't get a hit and that Buxton's advancement on the play would be mostly meaningless (he could have advanced on a lot of different balls hit in play, or even stolen or advanced on the mildest of passed balls in a longer at-bat).

     

    Yeah, a fly to the OF, or a groundout to the right side has the same impact as a sac bunt anyways.  I don't have the video but when I watched it, seemed like he was more interested in bringing the third baseman in than taking off to 1B.  I could be wrong though.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I'm actually more concerned about Sano than Buxton at this point.

     

    Sano is chasing some really bad pitches. He just doesn't look as confident at the plate as he did last year. I think the effects of trying to play outfield is a real concern. Baseball is a game of confidence, and struggles in one area always seem to seep in other parts of the game. A lot of it has to do with pitchers having better scouting reports, but will he be able to make the necessary adjustments? I honestly can't say one way r the other at this point. Although, he did look much better last night, IMO (while DHing).

     

    Buxton, on the other hand, looks like his approach is much more refined this year. It looks sustainable. He's laying off those tough pitches, like fastballs up and out of zone, and breaking balls that start on the outside corner and break off the plate. When he is swinging, it seems to be a pitch he wants, and he swing with authority. That's just wasn't there last year. The strikeouts will eventually come down as he accumulates at bats.

     

    Another note: Dozier really concerns me right now. Pitchers are pounding him away, and he can't seem to figure it out. He could have a rough year. Hopefully they don't keep him in the lead off spot much longer.

    Unfortunately, the data disagrees with you.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=5&season=2016&month=0&season1=2016&ind=0&team=8&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

     

    Sano is not chasing at all. He's missing on pitches in the zone. In the upper third especially. He'll adjust.

     

    Buxton swings at a quarter of pitches outside the zone.

     

    (Oh God, Rosario...)

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites




    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

    Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...