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  • Trending (3/24): Roster Battles


    Jeremy Nygaard

    After a one week absence, Trending is back and better than ever. (But only because it’s better than the first and only week it has appeared.) Let's take a look at some of the roster battles that are going on.

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    The Starting Rotation

    All along the general consensus was that Tyler Duffey would be in the Twins rotation. Based on how he performed down the stretch last year, why wouldn’t he be? MLB might as well be short for “What have you done for me lately?” because, lately, Tyler Duffey hasn’t done much. He’s gone from “it’s going to take a disaster to not be in the rotation” to “well his name is written in pencil, not ink” to “well we can’t send Nolasco down, so….”.

    The trend line is pointing solidly to Tommy Milone as being the lone lefty in the rotation. And after Nolasco’s strong performance Wednesday - coupled with Duffey not pitching well against minor leaguers - it appears Nolasco has regained the lead in the quest for the fifth and final rotation spot. That could leave Duffey out in the cold (of Rochester).

    Trending up, on the other hand, is the Red Wings starting rotation which will include Jose Berrios, Alex Meyer and Tyler Duffey. Taylor Rogers, though, will start the season in the bullpen.

    The Bullpen

    The group of Glen Perkins, Kevin Jepsen, Trevor May and Casey Fien will form an average (or better) back end. Non-roster lefty Fernando Abad is expected to join them. When Duffey appeared poised for the rotation, that forced Nolasco to take up one of the two remaining bullpen spots. But now with that race tightening up, there could be two spots available in the bullpen.

    J.R. Graham was optioned to Rochester on Wednesday. Michael Tonkin finally had a decent showing on Tuesday after giving up runs in each of his last three outings, including two runs in each of his last two one-inning appearances. Tonkin might get a longer look (i.e. into the season) just because he is out of options, but he’s been trending the wrong direction all spring.

    Some other names to keep an eye on are Dan Runzler, a lefty who has allowed seven men on base in eight innings, and potential LOOGY Ryan O’Rourke, who has been lights-out in his 5 ⅔ innings this spring. Both of those men are trending in the right direction.

    (Edit: Yes, Ryan Pressly should absolutely be considered for the bullpen and is probably a favorite to secure the spot if there is only one opening. If there are two spots open, Pressly has to be considered a near-lock.)

    Another name that popped up this afternoon, thanks to Steve Lein, is Tyler Duffey. If he’s not in the rotation, how dominant could he be in the bullpen (a la Trevor May)? You also have the insurance built in that he doesn’t need to be the sixth starter in the organization (Berrios). It’s kinda crazy - and not a move I would make this season - but definitely something that could be worth considering as the roster continues to take shape (and you believe the best 25 should go north).

    The Bench

    Danny Santana missed seven days of games due to a sore wrist within the last two weeks but has started to hit (5 for 11) in his last three games. He’s been playing a variety of positions, which gives him a little value. The reality is that Santana, another out-of-options player, is going to be on the 25-man whether he hits or not. The hope here, though, is that Molitor can avoid using him as anything but a late-innings pinch-runner when it’s absolutely necessary. I’d still consider him to be trending down, but the slope isn’t as steep as it was ten days ago.

    Oswaldo Arcia is in a very similar place. Only Arcia’s (potential) value is in his bat and not his versatility. Arcia teased us in 2014 and frustrated us in 2015. He’s now being pushed by the old knees of the recently unretired Carlos Quentin. Yet it’s still hard to believe that the club will decide to keep Quentin, who has no defensive value compared to even Arcia. But if it’s bat we’re looking for and spring training we’re watching, we still see Arcia’s OPS of .528 next to Quentin’s OPS of .931 in the 15 games they’ve each played and wonder, “What to do with Ozzie?” Smart money is on him taking up a bench spot early in the season.

    What do you think? What would you do?

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      On 3/25/2016 at 9:17 AM, AM. said:

    Two things:
    1)Alex Meyer is going to start at Rochester? That seems like huge news to me. If he does well there, he could get called up pretty easily. (Before Berrios, ostensibly.) That certainly didn't appear to be where his career was trending.
     

     

    I see zero reason to believe Alex Meyer would be even remotely an option for the Twins Rotation at any point in the first half of the season, maybe all season.  He only started 8 games all last year, he's got a long ways to go to get back into that mix.  Not sure how you deducted he would be ahead of Berrios?

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      On 3/25/2016 at 12:42 PM, alarp33 said:

    I see zero reason to believe Alex Meyer would be even remotely an option for the Twins Rotation at any point in the first half of the season, maybe all season. He only started 8 games all last year, he's got a long ways to go to get back into that mix. Not sure how you deducted he would be ahead of Berrios?

    Meyer is on the 40-man? It's a big "if" to be sure, basically he'd have to start throwing like he did in 2013-2014 again. And if the rotation opening wasn't necessarily long-term, maybe a spot start or two or three while a guy goes on the 15 day DL, that could make it less likely to be Berrios too.

     

    I like Berrios, and I am sure the Twins like him, but the idea that he is destined to be first in line to come up, as early as 2 weeks into the season, regardless of everything else doesn't seem likely.

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    My guess is Meyer is going into the Rochester rotation in the hopes it speeds up the process of getting him ready to help the Twins bullpen.

     

    Edit: although I agree with spy that a two week injury fill in might not be out of the realm of possibility.

     

    All of this depends on Meyer performing of course.

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      On 3/25/2016 at 12:52 PM, spycake said:

    Meyer is on the 40-man? It's a big "if" to be sure, basically he'd have to start throwing like he did in 2013-2014 again. And if the rotation opening wasn't necessarily long-term, maybe a spot start or two or three while a guy goes on the 15 day DL, that could make it less likely to be Berrios too.

    I like Berrios, and I am sure the Twins like him, but the idea that he is destined to be first in line to come up, as early as 2 weeks into the season, regardless of everything else doesn't seem likely.

     

    Alex Meyer made 8 disastrous starts all last season, I'm all for moving him back to the rotation and hoping something with his control/ command clicks, but if there is an injury in the rotation at any point in the 1st 3 months he might be the 9th or 10th option.  

     

    It's not only Berrios, it's the Duffey/Nolasco loser, and probably other Rochester arms.  

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      On 3/25/2016 at 1:16 PM, alarp33 said:

    Alex Meyer made 8 disastrous starts all last season, I'm all for moving him back to the rotation and hoping something with his control/ command clicks, but if there is an injury in the rotation at any point in the 1st 3 months he might be the 9th or 10th option.

     

    It's not only Berrios, it's the Duffey/Nolasco loser, and probably other Rochester arms.

    Again, the clause you seem to overlooking is IF Meyer does well. If he was doing as well or better than Duffey or Berrios, he might even get a fill-in start or two if his turn happens to line up better.

     

    I don't think it is likely that he performs that well again, that quickly, but IF he does, it could happen. He lost his starting gig last year because he sucked, so if they put him back at starter and he performs well again, I don't see why he couldn't reclaim the similar consideration he had before he sucked.

     

    Of course, if a bullpen need comes up first, as Chief alludes to, that could take him out of the starting mix.

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      On 3/25/2016 at 1:33 PM, spycake said:

    Again, the clause you seem to overlooking is IF Meyer does well. If he was doing as well or better than Duffey or Berrios, he might even get a fill-in start or two if his turn happens to line up better.

    I don't think it is likely that he performs that well again, that quickly, but IF he does, it could happen. He lost his starting gig last year because he sucked, so if they put him back at starter and he performs well again, I don't see why he couldn't reclaim the similar consideration he had before he sucked.

    Of course, if a bullpen need comes up first, as Chief alludes to, that could take him out of the starting mix.

     

    That's what I was trying to allude to when I said the 1st 3 months, I think he would have to do well for a long period of time before he was an option. If he makes 3 good Rochester starts in April I don't believe it moves him up the pecking order.  Based solely off how bad last year was, and how long its been since he has started.  

     

    And I agree with Chief as well, it wouldn't shock me if he is pitching well he's 1st man up in the bullpen

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      On 3/25/2016 at 9:17 AM, AM. said:

    Two things:

    1)Alex Meyer is going to start at Rochester? That seems like huge news to me. If he does well there, he could get called up pretty easily. (Before Berrios, ostensibly.) That certainly didn't appear to be where his career was trending.

    2)Molitor saying "we didn't expect to win the Park bidding" is quite the quote. I've often said that the Twins MO is "aim for mediocrity." In this case, they put in a bid expecting not to win it. Now, because they lucked out and actually won his rights...they are adjusting by moving Sano to OF. Of the options of DH, 1B, 3B or OF, they picked the one position that the position for him that will most likely result in an average to below average result.

    2)? Where did you read/hear Molitor say that? It's not that I doubt it, because it's always been my conjecture that it's not the Twins Way to go high enough to get a sought after FA style player. Ergo, they did, and now what the bleep do we do with him? Of course that's just me thinking from moms basement!
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      On 3/25/2016 at 4:00 PM, Platoon said:

    2)? Where did you read/hear Molitor say that? It's not that I doubt it, because it's always been my conjecture that it's not the Twins Way to go high enough to get a sought after FA style player. Ergo, they did, and now what the bleep do we do with him? Of course that's just me thinking from moms basement!

    I read it from Jeremy Nygaard, earlier in this thread. He said Molitor said it in MLB Network.

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    With regards to Meyer and his chances of cracking the rotation, it's not that I am saying he will be first in line for an opening. Not at all. But the pecking order isn't always cut and dried; hot streaks, veteranism, timing; lots of different factors can impact who gets a shot.

     

    But let me put it a different way. Between May and Meyer, which has the greater chance of getting a start this year?

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      On 3/25/2016 at 9:27 PM, AM. said:

    With regards to Meyer and his chances of cracking the rotation, it's not that I am saying he will be first in line for an opening. Not at all. But the pecking order isn't always cut and dried; hot streaks, veteranism, timing; lots of different factors can impact who gets a shot.

     

    But let me put it a different way. Between May and Meyer, which has the greater chance of getting a start this year?

    Ok, so let me ask the question again, after Meyer's first start in AAA...who has the greater chance of getting a start in the Twins' rotation this year, Meyer, or May?

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