Trade Deadline: What if the Twins Do Nothing?

Does Schoop have any trade value? I'd flip him for a reliever if possible.

C'mon, it's an analogy to maintenance, you brought it up. It's pretty widely accepted there were questions about this bullpen before the season began and plenty of time and opportunity to do something about it. I'm willing to accept that Falvine were of the mind that they didn't expect this team to be where they are so far this season. If they aren't surprised, it's legitimate to question why they didn't do anything then and haven't done anything to this point. 

 

I'd also add, much of what people are saying here is speculation in the absence of facts. It's a discussion forum, if speculating wasn't allowed we wouldn't have much to talk about, since none of us actually know anything. 

Of course there were questions before the season, but in a season that started with hopes of competing for a wild card.  Blaming Falvine for not seeing the best offensive season in baseball history coming seems a little much.  If they did think they were going to be on 100 win pace for the entire season, then yes, I would absolutely question their decision to bet everything on Rogers, Hildenberger, and May.

I also have no problem with speculation, I have a problem with leveling absolutes based on merely speculation.  If people want to speculate Falvine is balking at asking prices, that's one thing.  Instead, people are speculating that Falvine aren't really doing anything, other than perhaps leaking some false reports so they don't look bad when they don't make a trade

would your wife accept any of those excuses for why the lawn still isnt mowed?

I know for certain Mrs Chief wouldn't. Because, you know...excuses.

My wife is a fairly reasonable woman, and understands that sometimes there are excuses, and sometimes there are reasons.  I'm fairly confident she would not blame me for rain or getting rear-ended, nor would she have preferred I strand our child at school in order to mow the lawn.

Although that being said, as my wife and I are childless and live in an apartment building, this is completely theoretical on my end.

It's been discussed here, but any team that could use Schoop for the next 2 months probably also wants to keep their worthwhile relievers. (Or get a better future return, if they are selling now.)

He could be a piece for a team that wants to dump salary, but that's it.

I don't know how many teams need to dump salary on relievers, though. The Twins may have already found the only team that wanted to do that and made the deal.

Time for my tinfoil hat:

GMs are unhappy with getting rid of August trades, and are already posturing for their return next season.

In a sign of silent rebellion, they make only a minimum amount of trades and only for players they feel they have to move - expiring contracts, malcontents, etc.

Looking at this discussion reminds me that the Twins sure have gotten some excitement into their fans, eh?

For me, time to take a break and grad a little lunch.  Then come back for the really important announcement today...the FED. 

It was almost certainly a Twins source. It was a local reporter (Lavelle), and the same article from Lavelle contained info about the Twins negotiations with Toronto.

 

National sources had the Mets ask as both Lewis and Kirilloff earlier.

And you know that LEN3 is not in contact with any individual in the Met's organization...how?

dude. Give me a little more credit than trying THAT, ferpetesakes. I'm not THAT stupid.

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By now.

So now you've got a new one for the quiver. 

No excuses. Get something done today.

I mean, this sums it up perfectly.

And you know that LEN3 is not in contact with any individual in the Met's organization...how?

Because he's done the bare minimum in his reporting for years?

The pitchforks are already out and deadline is still hours away.

The pitchforks are never not out.

This may have been stated but people are typing as fast as I can read this thread, so I skipped ahead...

If the trade deadline comes and goes and nothing happens, that's just unacceptable. Ian Kennedy is the reason I'll be mad. We know that if a team offered KC a C-level prospect for Ian Kennedy (with no salary relief) the Royals would jump at it. Basically, all he costs is money. Is Ian Kennedy worth 16M next year? Of course not, but at that point, it would just be about the money and that's not an acceptable excuse for the Twins at this point. 

Not that I need it to be Ian Kennedy, but I just don't see any other team that is desperate enough to say "yeah, we'll take on that whole salary" so, taking on Ian Kennedy's $22M remaining money is the absolute floor of acceptability. 

If you're not willing to part with the required prospect capital, then you need to part with actual capital.

This is getting rough.

This is getting rough.

Less than 3 hours left.

Good thing I have the afternoon off from work.

If they do nothing, my confidence level in ever winning a WS with Falvine drops to zero.

Because we will never know the cost to acquire [beloved Player X] via trade, it is hard to say that I will be upset if the Twins do not make another acquisition. For every player that is reportedly available, there is a price that I would be unhappy if the Twins pay it--even with the benefit of adding that player to the 2019 roster (and presumably increasing the odds of playoffs/playoff wins). Because of that, I can't honestly feel more than  general  disappointment that something didn't work out. I'd need information that I will never have to feel anger or betrayed. 

Generally, I agree with you, but the existence of Ian Kennedy and his contract makes us relatively sure that if the Twins were willing to pony up money (and almost nothing in terms of prospects), they could make a significant improvement to the bullpen. 

For most other guys, I agree with you. You never know what other teams are asking for.