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  • Trade Deadline: What if the Twins Do Nothing?


    Seth Stohs

    Happy Trade Deadline Day, Twins Fans! This should be a fun day as the Twins find themselves Buyers at the deadline for the first time in a decade. I fully expect the Twins to acquire at least one pitcher before today’s 3 p.m. (central time) deadline, but what if they don’t? What if they stand pat?

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    On Tuesday night, Cleveland finally traded All Star starting pitcher Trevor Bauer. Typically that move would be seen as the team selling, but in this case, I do believe that they got better. They have pitching, and seem to keep calling pitchers up who do well. Shane Bieber and Zach Plesac are two guys who fit into that mold. They also should be getting Corey Kluber back in the near future.

    Their need was offense, and they added two powerful outfielders in Yasiel Puig and Franmil Reyes in the three-team swap. They also added LHP Logan Allen, a Top 100 prospect, and two more minor leaguers.

    It was a very creative move for Cleveland. The Twins were very creative in their acquisition of Sergio Romo over the weekend. Not only did the Twins receive the veteran reliever, but they also received hard-throwing RHP Chris Vallimont and a Player to be Named Later for slugging first base prospect Lewin Diaz.

    On its own, the Twins made a really, creative, savvy move to improve their bullpen and improve the team. Twins fans have generally felt that the trade was good for the Twins, though that thought always comes with the “as long as it isn’t the only move they make by the deadline.”

    But what if it is? What if Sergio Romo is the only player that the Twins add? What will it mean? Here are my thoughts.

    DISAPPOINTMENT

    First and foremost, Twins fans will and rightfully should feel disappointment. On the basic level, it’s always fun to acquire talent. It doesn’t even have to be elite talent, but just make the team better. Let's just say, #TwinsTwitter will not handle it well, for sure!

    On another level, Derek Falvey and Thad Levine have consistently said that when the Twins window to compete for championships opens, they will pounce. Well, the window is wide open. This team has the talent to compete, not only for the American League Central title but also for a World Series. They have won two of six games against the Yankees this year, and probably should have won two more of those games. They won four of their seven matchups with the Astros this year. They currently have an edge on Cleveland this year too. Those are the top teams in the American League, and the team should absolutely feel like they can compete for an American League pennant. And hey, if you get to the World Series, you have a chance.

    So Twins fans will absolutely have every right to be disappointed and even upset if nothing is done.

    HOWEVER…

    This is a very good team as is, as shown by their performance so far this year against the top teams in the league. Their lineup can compete with anyone. They can slug with the best. Pitching has been the issue although even that hasn’t been as bad as we may think. The starters rank in the top the top third of the league in most statistics. Some of that is because their #4 (Perez) and #5 (Pineda) have been better than most 4s and 5s around the league. Jose Berrios is approaching Ace level. Jake Odorizzi was an All Star for his strong start, but he has been more inconsistent of late. Kyle Gibson’s been good at times but also a bit inconsistent. Not adding a starter would just mean that these guys would need to step it up down the stretch. But would the Twins have a top three or top four that you could feel good about going into the playoffs?

    And the bullpen has been better than expected, though a lot of that is because of Taylor Rogers. Sergio Romo stepped in as the 8th inning guy last night in his Twins debut. Tyler Duffey has returned to an intriguing bullpen option. Ryne Harper has been a big surprise. Trevor May was doing well until the 0-2 curveball in Cleveland, but he has the stuff to dominate and will need to find that again.

    And then some young guys. Cody Stashak had a moment in the Yankees series. Sean Poppen reeling off 96-97 mph fastballs with a strong slider could be great for the team down the stretch. And if Will Smith and Felipe Vasquez are unavailable, I don’t think there is an available left-handed reliever that I would feel better about than giving Lewis Thorpe an opportunity. And Devin Smeltzer is available as well. The concern with them is their lack of MLB experience, obviously.

    In addition, Fernando Romero has been much improved of late in Rochester. And as it appears the odds of Cody Allen helping the Twins down the stretch is waning, flamethrower Brusdar Graterol returned to the mound on Monday for his first rehab appearance. Maybe he and his 101-mph fastball can help. Jorge Alcala and his triple-digit fastball pitched out of the bullpen in his most-recent outing.

    SUMMARY

    So, while I still think it is very likely that the Twins make one or two moves before the trade deadline, and this article will be all for naught, it is important for Twins fans to stand by a team that has put themselves in this position. Absolutely, be disappointed that nothing was done, but hopefully you’ll be able to quickly shift your attention back to the fact that this team, as it is currently put together, can win the division. And, if you are under the opinion (as I mostly am) that the playoffs are mostly a crapshoot, then you should still believe that the Twins can win in the playoffs too.

    All that said… Come On, Twins… Make a Move!

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    Because we will never know the cost to acquire [beloved Player X] via trade, it is hard to say that I will be upset if the Twins do not make another acquisition. For every player that is reportedly available, there is a price that I would be unhappy if the Twins pay it--even with the benefit of adding that player to the 2019 roster (and presumably increasing the odds of playoffs/playoff wins). Because of that, I can't honestly feel more than  general  disappointment that something didn't work out. I'd need information that I will never have to feel anger or betrayed. 

    That's fair, although anticipating high prices is also part of a GM's job. That should have been a factor when selling Pressly a year ago, and making Blake Parker our only offseason pen acquisition.

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    Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS.

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    Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS.

     

    Exactly. Baseball is a funny game.

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    Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS.

     

    Yes and with the little pitching we have signed for next year, this may very well be the best opportunity to make a deep run in the playoffs. I have no confidence that the offense will be as potent as it is this year. If we, who lack the expertise in baseball knowledge to run a front office, know that the bullpen is doomed in the playoffs, then the guys running the show have to know that they need help in the bullpen. Or if they value the prospects that highly, then they better turn out to be some pretty damn good players.

     

    Go for the gold, Twins! Make a big splash!

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    Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS.

    And then once we regress when will the “window” be open for us to compete for a World Series? Will the FO even then be willing to make the call to “go for it”? This year is one of those years, so why cower and not make a big splash?
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    No I wouldn't fire them before the season is over, but if they somehow miss the playoffs or don't win the division because the relief core is not adequate and that is an obvious reason for not winning the division.

    Then they are gone!

     

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    This team has MAX a 2-3 year window to win a World Series if there lucky please don’t blow it Falvey and Levine... it’s sad when fans want to win more than the front office of the team does...

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    So what’s the strategy for getting better starting pitching? Expecting Graterol, Balazovic, or Duran to pan out as an ace? If that’s the strategy then the Twins FO are a bunch of fools because there’s absolutely no guarantee any of the 3 mentioned pitchers will attain top rotation status. It’s more likely all 3 flop or like Gibson fall short of their potential. So what that means is the rotation for years could very well be Berríos and 4 #5 starters. That will not work to win a World Series.

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    Because 1.) We're Twins fans, and 2.) they're fun to watch and follow.

    At a certain point, if they're never ever going to even try to win it all, what's the point?

     

    This is 2006 all over again, and our next shot might be in 2032. And if this goes as expected and Favley is still around, he'll cling to his prospects and dream of 2035.

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    This team has MAX a 2-3 year window to win a World Series if there lucky please don’t blow it Falvey and Levine... it’s sad when fans want to win more than the front office of the team does...

    What is it about year 4 that makes you say that? Almost all of our top 10 prospects are at AA or higher. With a reasonable hit rate and the remaining players from our current roster, the window should be longer than 3 years. Not that I think that should preclude us from acting aggressively now, I’m just curious why you think the window is that short.

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    What is it about year 4 that makes you say that? Almost all of our top 10 prospects are at AA or higher. With a reasonable hit rate and the remaining players from our current roster, the window should be longer than 3 years. Not that I think that should preclude us from acting aggressively now, I’m just curious why you think the window is that short.

    Because that's just usually how it works out. Cleveland isn't going anywhere and Chicago might be very good in 2 years.

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    Take a look at the standings. They are competing now! Go out to a game and have some fun!

     

    No kidding. We'll have plenty of time to think about 2020....in 2020! The time is NOW, the year is THIS ONE! Let's grab another arm, boys!

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    This team has MAX a 2-3 year window to win a World Series if there lucky please don’t blow it Falvey and Levine... it’s sad when fans want to win more than the front office of the team does...

    What makes you think the window closes so soon?

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