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  • Ten To Extend: A Five-Part Series (Part 1)


    Jeremy Nygaard

    I’ve always been a fan of extensions. Well, baseball extensions anyway. My wife came home with hair extensions once because they were a “good deal” and I wasn’t a big fan of that. But that’s besides the point.

    As far as baseball extensions go, even “good deals” sometimes aren’t good deals. And sometimes bad-looking deals turn into great deals (but usually not). The reality is that’s impossible to tell until later. Sometimes a little later. Sometimes a lot later.

    The best part - for me anyway - is that once an extension is signed it’s thrown into a group of contracts that can be examined in a number of different ways - from years of free agency bought out to team options to buyouts to looking specifically at the details of those with similar service time and position.

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    According to MLBTR’s Extension Tracker, the Twins have signed 13 players to 15 extensions since the beginning of the 2008 calendar year. Eight of those have been signed during the month of March, including the extension of Brian Dozier in 2015 and Glen Perkins in 2014. Will there be another one in 2016?

    Over the next couple of weeks, we’re going to examine ten players and how a potential extension would be structured and why. Please note: I’M NOT SUGGESTING SIGNING ALL OF THESE PLAYERS TO EXTENSIONS. In fact, there are a couple that would be downright ridiculous. But ten is a nice, round number to examine over this multi-part series. These are listed in order of a combination of likelihood and personal preference, starting with least-likely/preferred ones.

    10) Kurt Suzuki, catcher

    Wait, this can’t be serious. Can it!? Well, it was serious when the Twins signed Suzuki to a two-year extension 18 months ago when many fans were hoping they would trade him. Suzuki, of course, finished 2014 .288/.345/.383 after signing the extension on trade deadline day (and hitting .306/.369/.391 at the time). He backed that up with a 2015 that saw his production drop even more, to the tune of .240/.296/.314. Yikes!

    So why extend him? There’s not a great reason to “extend” him as much as there is to “modify”. Currently Suzuki is in line to earn $6 million in 2016 and $6 million in 2017, but only if he makes 485 plate appearance in 2016. He’s almost assured to not reach that number in 2016; he fell short of it in 2015. So the likelihood is that he’ll hit the open market and be looking at, what, the possibility of signing a minor league deal? Even the best case scenario is he’s not coming close to the $6 million he will make this year.

    The addition of John Ryan Murphy and having both Stuart Turner and Mitch Garver knocking on the door might render Suzuki useless as we look towards 2017, but what if we replace the vesting option with a team option at a much lower price that includes a guaranteed buyout. We’ll toss some plate appearance bonuses in to insure Suzuki makes money if he would have otherwise triggered what would have vested the option.

    Would I extend Suzuki? No way. I’d make sure his option doesn’t vest and he’s off the books, but would the team and Suzuki consider the following deal:

    Eliminate the vesting option. Add a mutual option for $2 million for 2017 with a $100,000 buyout (if the term declines). Add $250,000 plate appearances bonuses at 450, 485, 520 and 555 and add a $1 million bonus at 615. The Twins will be on the hook for an extra $100,000 but Suzuki could earn an extra $2 million if he makes 615 plate appearances. He wouldn’t recoup the $6 million that he could have earned, but if he puts up a season that includes 615 plate appearances, he’ll probably do ok for himself in free agency.

    Like I mentioned earlier, it’s not so much an “extension” as it is a “modification”. I’ve also said it’s something I wouldn’t do. But is it something that both parties would consider beneficial to themselves? It might be, especially considering how much the parties involved seem to like each other.

    9) Brian Dozier, second baseman

    You Can’t Be Serious, Part 2, right? Sort of. As much as I was against the Suzuki extension when it was signed, I was against the Dozier extension for a completely different reason: It didn’t give the Twins any additional years of control. The only benefit - and it’s a benefit that might prove to be even bigger as the years progress - is that it provided cost-certainty. But you can also make the argument that having to pay additional dollars going year-by-year is a better alternative than locking in at a cost for a handful of years. Now’s not the place to argue that (well, you can down below if you’d like). I’m just not going to touch it here.

    If you don’t remember, the Twins signed Dozier to a four-year/$20 million deal last spring. They tore up the $540,000 deal they had given him for 2015 and bumped his salary to $2 million. The club then bought out his arbitration years at $3, $6 and $9 million.

    But no more years. And no team options.

    The contract signed by Dee Gordon is a great comparison for what Dozier should have gotten/could still get. You could view the $1.46 million bump Dozier got as a signing bonus. Gordon got a signing bonus of $1.5 million. Both players will make $3 million in their 3+ year of service. Gordon will make $1.5 million more than Dozier in each of his 4+ and 5+ seasons.

    The big difference is that Gordon will remain under the Marlins control for $13 million and $13.5 million with an additional vesting option whereas Dozier will become a free agent.

    Is it time for the Twins to right that wrong? Not many would have batted an eye if the Twins bought out a year or two of Dozier’s free agency last March, so would they now? An additional two years at $30.5 million. It would break down like this: $3 million signing bonus (the difference in arbitration-year salaries), $13 million in 2019, $13.5 million in 2020 and a $1 million buyout on a $14 million team option for 2021. Essentially the exact same deal that Dee Gordon signed.

    This would lock up Dozier through his age-33 season and he would enter free agency the same time as Gordon, who is one year younger.

    Personally, I would have been more likely to give Dozier this deal last March. Now that he’s locked in, I’d let it play out (at least until this time next year). But it wouldn’t be the first time the club extended a player one year into a contract.

    *cough*Phil Hughes*cough* Which might be just enough to make the club a little gun shy this time around.

    So what do you think about Suzuki (are you kidding me?!) and Dozier (well, now that you put it that way)? We’ll be checking in on eight more players over the next few days or weeks. Feel free to chime in below.

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    Escobar is in a very different position, though... His increase in performance directly coincided with an increase in playing time in two consecutive years.

     

    With that said, I do not expect Escobar to come anywhere near an .800 OPS in a full-time role. I'd be thrilled with .750, very happy with .730.

     

    And he shouldn't be in a leadoff role, not with that OBP... But the Twins have some pretty bad leadoff options right now.

     

    And as for Dozier's final 3 months? Should we pretend that didn't happen? 

     

    As for Dozier vs Polanco, I was more so arguing this; 

     

    "Sell high" should only be referenced if at least one of the following criteria is met:

    1. The team has no expectation of winning enough baseball games to matter

    2. The team has a viable replacement at the position who can step in and won't sacrifice (multiple) wins in the short-term"

     

    Not your argument about the better hitter today.  I think Polanco could be a nearly comparable player as soon as mid season, and if you can get a high end bullpen piece and prospect for Dozier, you think long and hard about it (The Twins won't, its not their way... but I would)

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    And as for Dozier's final 3 months? Should we pretend that didn't happen?

    *looks around*

     

    Nope, I didn't say anything of the sort but I'm not terribly worried about Dozier. He could regress but I think it's more likely he continues posting the ~.750-ish OPS he has been posting since he adjusted his approach/swing 1900 plate appearances ago.

     

    As for Dozier vs Polanco, I was more so arguing this; 

     

    "Sell high" should only be referenced if at least one of the following criteria is met:

     

    1. The team has no expectation of winning enough baseball games to matter

     

    2. The team has a viable replacement at the position who can step in and won't sacrifice (multiple) wins in the short-term"

     

    Not your argument about the better hitter today.  I think Polanco could be a nearly comparable player as soon as mid season, and if you can get a high end bullpen piece and prospect for Dozier, you think long and hard about it (The Twins won't, its not their way... but I would)

    No one should be off the table if the return improves the team. It's unlikely the team will be improved by trading Brian Dozier. Maybe this July, that changes... Maybe it changes next November. Dunno, but I see little reason to force the issue today. Right now, second base is one of the few positions on the team with an above-average player and few question marks.

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    If anything, sell high on Polanco this year. He still has 1 (maybe 2?) option years left, and there's still the belief glimmer of hope that he could stick at SS in the future. From everything I've read about him that's not going to happen, and he'll end up at 2B. Why not consider trading Polanco before the dust settles on his inevitable position he'll play in the majors, and before he runs out of option years?

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    If anything, sell high on Polanco this year. He still has 1 (maybe 2?) option years left, and there's still the belief glimmer of hope that he could stick at SS in the future. From everything I've read about him that's not going to happen, and he'll end up at 2B. Why not consider trading Polanco before the dust settles on his inevitable position he'll play in the majors, and before he runs out of option years?

     

    1- Are you assuming he doesn't end up at 3b? 

    2- If you believe he will be at least as good of 2b as Dozier, I'm not sure why you would trade him as he's 6 years younger and will be significantly cheaper for awhile.  He also fits this lineup better as its presently constructed (say, if they plan on Plouffe being the 3b for the next few years at least).  Lots of RH bats

    3- It's probably likely Dozier would have more value if you are going to trade him this year.  

     

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    1- Are you assuming he doesn't end up at 3b? 

    2- If you believe he will be at least as good of 2b as Dozier, I'm not sure why you would trade him as he's 6 years younger and will be significantly cheaper for awhile.  He also fits this lineup better as its presently constructed (say, if they plan on Plouffe being the 3b for the next few years at least).  Lots of RH bats

    3- It's probably likely Dozier would have more value if you are going to trade him this year.  

    1 - Yep. That would be breaking news if Polanco ends up at 3B. They talked about him getting playing time there last year, and never happened. Not sure if that's going to change, or if they're going to keep trying him at SS in AAA. I however, would like that to happen so he can play the position in the unfortunate case that Plouffe lands on the 15 day DL. 

    2 - The reasons you brought up are the exact reasons why I would trade Polanco, as those are good selling points (significantly cheaper, more years of control) compared to Dozier.

    3- I don't know who has the higher value between Dozier and Polanco. Frankly it depends on the trade the Twins are trying to make. If the Twins are trading Dozier, it's likely that they're receiving prospects (probably highly regarded young prospects in A or AA) If the Twins are trading Polanco, it's likely they're receiving a player that's already in the MLB. 

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    Escobar is 2 years younger than Dozier.  Career stats mean zero when you comparing a player in his prime and one who entering his prime.  Escobar's .754 was on the rising part of his bell curve, while Dozier's .751 at best at the top of the curve, or maybe even the decline.   So you got to try to predict who will be better in 2016 and beyond.  The past is the past, and you can use it to try to build a career curve.

     

    I am not willing to say the 800 AB's Escobar had prior to last year mean absolutely nothing.  Dozier has more of a track record.  You think he will decline.  He very well may.  But given we are going off one year, I am not convinced Escobar had a bit of an outlier last year.

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    I'm not sold on Polanco yet, and I don't think Dozier is going to fall off the face of the earth.  Polanco has options, and I'd like to see if he's figured it out in AAA before I hand him an MLB job..  Just my two cents there.  Now if you get an offer you cannot refuse for Brian, by all means trade him, but understand that this is very likely a setback in 2016 and possibly longer if Polanco flops. 

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    It wouldn't be the first time, Vanimal, that the Twins played a player at a position in the majors they NEVER ONCE used him at in the minors, which, frankly, is amazingly bad strategy, imo.

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    These are not vital parts of the teams future and are under contract for what might be their most valuable years.  The Twins are not adept at trading and we would just sit on them players until they move themselves.  Lets save the extension money for the new wave that is arriving in the dugout. 

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    This is Polanco's last option year.

     

    I hope he plays around the diamond this year in AAA. I don't know if I said it in this thread or a different one, but Polanco is a player that I think could have a lot of success in a Josh Harrison-type role. And he's one injury away from bring a regular infielder at 2B, SS and (I even feel) 3B.

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    This is Polanco's last option year.

     

    I hope he plays around the diamond this year in AAA. I don't know if I said it in this thread or a different one, but Polanco is a player that I think could have a lot of success in a Josh Harrison-type role. And he's one injury away from bring a regular infielder at 2B, SS and (I even feel) 3B.

    This is what I'd like to see happen with Polanco.

     

    Unless a team out there really wants him and offers big value. Then I may trade the guy.

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    "Sell high" should only be referenced if at least one of the following criteria is met:

     

    1. The team has no expectation of winning enough baseball games to matter

     

    2. The team has a viable replacement at the position who can step in and won't sacrifice (multiple) wins in the short-term

     

    Neither applies to the 2016 Twins. Maybe in July of this season, that changes and we all feel more comfortable about Polanco's defense and bat. But right now, not so much.

     

    Over the past two seasons, Brian Dozier has posted a .757 OPS. Jorge Polanco hasn't posted a number that high since he was in Ft. Myers.

    I'll add 3.: There is another GM willing to buy high.

    The Ben Revere trade was a good example. 1: Everyone knew we wouldn't win much in 2013. 2: We had Aaron Hicks. I would guess Ryan knew he wasn't quite ready but hoped he could survive. And 3: the Phillies were willing to give a good pitching prospect (May) plus throw in Worley.

    In reality I don't think this type of trade happens very often unless the buying team either is desperate, is in a pennant race or misjudges the player being sold high.

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