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    Nick Nelson

    Are great relievers born? Made? Produced artificially in a laboratory somewhere deep in the Nevadan desert?

    We don't know the answer. If you think you do, you're probably wrong. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's just the nature of relief pitching. The Twins are living proof of its caprice and volatility. Which is why, as Minnesota embarks on a quest to improve its needy bullpen, they face a mighty challenge.

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    Let's review the facts as they stand. The most intriguing pieces currently in the Twins' bullpen are:

    • Taylor Rogers, formerly an 11th-round pick turned nondescript minor-league starter, who transitioned into relief duty immediately in the majors, and blossomed into a top-tier setup man over three short years.
    • Ryne Harper, a former 37th-round pick who toiled in the minors for nine years before making the Twins out of camp this spring on a minor-league deal. He debuted as a 30-year-old rookie.
    • Blake Parker, the team's biggest offseason bullpen splash. His smallish free agent contract as a castoff from the Angels was whittled down further after his physical. I hesitate to call him "intriguing" at this point, given his trendline, but overall he's gotten it done.
    • Tyler Duffey, Trevor May, Zack Littell: All former middling prospects as starters, finding new gears as MLB relievers. Before you write off any of the three as flashes in the pan, or overachieving mediocrities, go back and read Rogers' blurb again. As I watch Duffey, May and Littell develop into lethal flamethrowers, I do wonder how differently their careers might have gone if the organization had committed to their role changes as quickly and decisively as with Rogers.

    With all due respect to Matt Magill and Mike Morin, I don't quite put either at the same level of faith as those above, but each one fits the narrative: discarded minor-league pitchers finding surprising success in the majors.

    Meanwhile, here are the pitchers conspicuously NOT contributing to the current campaign:

    • Addison Reed, who signed the largest free agent reliever deal in franchise history 18 months ago. The Twins ate a good portion of it when they released him last month.
    • Trevor Hildenberger, who was the team's most reliable bullpen arm for about a year before falling apart at the seams midway through 2018. He's currently on the injured list at Triple-A.
    • Fernando Romero, the former top pitching prospect who's flamed out in multiple stints with the Twins this year, and hasn't looked a whole lot better in Triple-A.

    I know the common refrain on Romero – especially with the benefit of hindsight: "Why mess with him? They shoulda left him as a starter." But that ignores two things: 1) he wasn't throwing or holding up all that well as a starter, and 2) I mean, look at the examples of Duffey/May/Littell. There are certainly downsides to waffling and delaying. With Romero, it's an unaffordable luxury because he'll be out of options next spring.

    The malfunctions with all three of these players are largely driving the urgency to make improvements. But each of them, and Reed especially, epitomizes the reason that's a much taller order than many clamoring fans would like to believe. Anyone expressing certainty that Craig Kimbrel would've been a decisive upgrade is kidding themselves.

    Reed, like Kimbrel, generated less free agent demand than expected, given his backend pedigree, but he still had all the makings of a bullpen stud. He was younger and less weathered than Kimbrel. And in the early portion of his contract, Reed looked the part. But his drop-off was both rapid and ruthless.

    And the thing is, he's not alone. Reed is a somewhat extreme version of an all-too-common outcome. I just checked in on the top RP options listed in the latest Offseason Handbook, and there are vastly more busts than even moderately decent values. Kimbrel still hasn't pitched in the majors. David Robertson's thrown only seven innings due to injury issues. Andrew Miller's been mediocre. Kelvin Herrera, Jeurys Familia and Joe Kelly have been terrible. Cody Allen was so bad he's already been cut by the Angels, and signed by Minnesota to a minors deal.

    Allen now feels like a long shot to make any kind of meaningful impact; but, as you go through the names above, doesn't that feel true for almost anyone? Granted, some of these guys had their red flags, but all had strong track records, and signed for many millions of dollars. To a man, they've all floundered.

    Meanwhile, the Twins are finding their most credible help in a 30-year-old journeyman and a bunch of failed minor-league starters. And most of these guys are hitting their own skids at times.

    What all of this suggests to me:

    First, it's really hard to be a relief pitcher in the major leagues right now, with stacked lineups of aggressive upper-cut swingers just waiting to feast on premium heat. This is borne out by the numbers: MLB relievers, as a whole, have a 4.50 ERA this year, up from 4.08 last year and higher than their starting counterparts (!).

    Second, and not unrelatedly: it's going to be very difficult for the Twins to solve this problem. Difficult, and stressful. They aren't short on resources by any means, but that's not the problem. Those onerous contracts plaguing other teams who splurged on the relief market last winter are one thing; when you start giving up valuable prospects, stakes are raised, especially for a team in Minnesota's position.

    There are a lot of seemingly tantalizing relief options out there on the trade market. We've been covering them in a series of profiles here on the site, so this might be a good time to get caught up:

    There are compelling cases to be made for several of the above, plus some others who haven't yet been covered. I myself am quite high on Raisel Iglesias. But no matter who I might favor, data shows there's an overwhelming chance I'll be wrong. The same is true for you. Again, I apologize for the bluntness.

    But of course, it doesn't matter if we're right – only the guys leading the front office. What's most important is that they buy into what's to come, rather than what's already gone.

    If only it were that easy.

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    1) Duffey has a slider and 95mph fastball to go with his curve arsenal.

     

    2) #freejhoanduran whip barely over 1. opponent ops .618. throws 100 mph now. No idea what he'll throw in 4 years if he blows a ucl and loses a year rehabbing.

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      On 6/26/2019 at 2:24 AM, Mike Sixel said:

    He's not now, when they need him. When can we expect this?

    I can't say I know what the plan with Alcala is. They've kept him as a starter at AA, but I really think he'd do well in the bullpen. I don't think they made the trade with the thought that Alcala would be in the majors in 2019.

     

    What I don't get is that they never tried to shore up the bullpen. We traded Pressly, Rodney, and Duke and only added Parker... what was the plan? Was it the plan to hope Ryne Harper broke out into a good MLB reliever, to hope Hildenberger would rebound from a rough 2018? Why did they both to give Matt Belisle 25 outings last season, and why did they give Oliver Drake 19 outings and then just DFA him after he looked great?

     

    I've liked Falvey & Levine's plan for the hitters and the starters... but I can't understand what they're doing with the pen. 

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      On 6/26/2019 at 2:24 AM, Mike Sixel said:

    He's not now, when they need him. When can we expect this?

    Imagine in 2017 if the Twins would have traded all of their top 20 prospects to make a run.

    The wouldn't have Kirilloff, Javier or Garver
    but Gordon, Gonsalves, Romero, Jay, Diaz, Mejia, Blakenhorn, Chargois, Stewart, Burdi, Wade, Ynoa, Jorge, Rortvedt, Palka, Granite and Thorpe wouldn't really be missed.
    Maybe Rortvedt and Thorpe?

     

    What I am saying is get help NOW!

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    A little late to the party, maybe, on this...but looking around the internet, I came across a SF Giants website that was putting together trade proposals with contenders, etc. Here are some of their proposed deals...

     

    To Twins: LHP Will Smith
    To Giants: SS Wander Javier, RHP Jhoan Duran, 1B/OF Brent Rooker

     

    To Twins: LHP Madison Bumgarner, RHP Nick Vincent
    To Giants: RHP Brusdar Graterol, 2B Yunior Severino, C Ryan Jeffers

     

    IMO, that is way too much for Will Smith and probably an okay price for Bumgarner & Vincent...? Thoughts?

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      On 6/26/2019 at 3:21 PM, SpicyGarvSauce said:

    A little late to the party, maybe, on this...but looking around the internet, I came across a SF Giants website that was putting together trade proposals with contenders, etc. Here are some of their proposed deals...

     

    To Twins: LHP Will Smith
    To Giants: SS Wander Javier, RHP Jhoan Duran, 1B/OF Brent Rooker

     

    To Twins: LHP Madison Bumgarner, RHP Nick Vincent
    To Giants: RHP Brusdar Graterol, 2B Yunior Severino, C Ryan Jeffers

     

    IMO, that is way too much for Will Smith and probably an okay price for Bumgarner & Vincent...? Thoughts?

     

    Wayyyyyy too much, for both

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      On 6/26/2019 at 3:22 PM, HawksNest said:

    Wayyyyyy too much, for both

     

    Looking at it more, yeah, that is too much. Obviously teams think their own pieces/players are worth more than they actually are, which is probably where this comes from; especially since both of those guys would be rentals.

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      On 6/26/2019 at 3:28 PM, SpicyGarvSauce said:

    Looking at it more, yeah, that is too much. Obviously teams think their own pieces/players are worth more than they actually are, which is probably where this comes from; especially since both of those guys would be rentals.

     

    Yeah, that's for sure what it is.  Fans are almost always delusional (myself included, lol) about trade values, etc. 

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      On 6/26/2019 at 3:21 PM, SpicyGarvSauce said:

    A little late to the party, maybe, on this...but looking around the internet, I came across a SF Giants website that was putting together trade proposals with contenders, etc. Here are some of their proposed deals...

     

    To Twins: LHP Will Smith
    To Giants: SS Wander Javier, RHP Jhoan Duran, 1B/OF Brent Rooker

     

    To Twins: LHP Madison Bumgarner, RHP Nick Vincent
    To Giants: RHP Brusdar Graterol, 2B Yunior Severino, C Ryan Jeffers

     

    IMO, that is way too much for Will Smith and probably an okay price for Bumgarner & Vincent...? Thoughts?

     

    I'd guess those would be too high as well -- but it might be close to what the Giants would ask for in negotiations, right now.

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      On 6/26/2019 at 3:47 AM, Danchat said:

    I can't say I know what the plan with Alcala is. They've kept him as a starter at AA, but I really think he'd do well in the bullpen. I don't think they made the trade with the thought that Alcala would be in the majors in 2019.

     

    What I don't get is that they never tried to shore up the bullpen. We traded Pressly, Rodney, and Duke and only added Parker... what was the plan? Was it the plan to hope Ryne Harper broke out into a good MLB reliever, to hope Hildenberger would rebound from a rough 2018? Why did they both to give Matt Belisle 25 outings last season, and why did they give Oliver Drake 19 outings and then just DFA him after he looked great?

     

    I've liked Falvey & Levine's plan for the hitters and the starters... but I can't understand what they're doing with the pen.

    I think it's pretty clear they thought Mejia and Romero would be good RPs. They then hoped on the back end. It didn't work, not sure why on Romero.....

     

    Now they need to pivot.

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      On 6/26/2019 at 4:48 PM, Mike Sixel said:

    I think it's pretty clear they thought Mejia and Romero would be good RPs. They then hoped on the back end. It didn't work, not sure why on Romero.....

     

    Now they need to pivot.

    I'd add hilde to that list, and maybe May but yeah. It's past time.

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    I think relief pitchers are incredibly hard to project. Ordinary guys become borderline unhittable and guys who look very good seem to lose it (Cody Allen). 

     

    Regarding Pressly, while his metrics seemed to indicate he might break out, during his tenure with the Twins, he was the ultimate tease (IMHO). He have a couple of dominant outings and then walk a guy or two and then lay a fastball in to a guy who was looking for it, Would he have flourished for the Twins? I guess we'll never know.

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      On 6/26/2019 at 6:32 PM, stringer bell said:

    I think relief pitchers are incredibly hard to project. Ordinary guys become borderline unhittable and guys who look very good seem to lose it (Cody Allen).

     

    Regarding Pressly, while his metrics seemed to indicate he might break out, during his tenure with the Twins, he was the ultimate tease (IMHO). He have a couple of dominant outings and then walk a guy or two and then lay a fastball in to a guy who was looking for it, Would he have flourished for the Twins? I guess we'll never know.

    He already was flourishing with the Twins. Would he have become otherworldly? Maybe not. But even if he maintained his 2018 Twins numbers he would be better than every Twins reliever not named Taylor Rogers, and those two would be pretty close.

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      On 6/26/2019 at 6:32 PM, stringer bell said:

    Regarding Pressly, while his metrics seemed to indicate he might break out, during his tenure with the Twins, he was the ultimate tease (IMHO). He have a couple of dominant outings and then walk a guy or two and then lay a fastball in to a guy who was looking for it, Would he have flourished for the Twins? I guess we'll never know.

    This is true to an extent, but by the end of July 2018 Pressly had four months of very strong work, fully backed up by peripherals, far more than he'd ever done before. Obviously the Twins bet on it not continuing, but I think it was enough that I would have bet Alcala/Celestino to see if it would continue.

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