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    John  Bonnes

    The Twins lost to the Orioles last night 6-3, but most of the day’s drama came earlier. There was a 5th starter battle on the minor league fields and we learned that other 5th starter candidate, Jose Berrios, was optioned to the minors. We also got some important injury news and a glimpse of another top pitching prospect. Let’s cover the highlights:

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    Vargas “Hobbled”

    In Friday night’s game, recently returned designated hitter candidate Kennys Vargas fouled a pitch off his foot or shin. He stayed in the game, but when he hit a fly ball to the outfield, he pulled up limping halfway to first base and left the game. After the game, we were told that x-rays had turned up nothing and that he was day-to-day.

    Today the Twins were not as optimistic. Manager Paul Molitor described Vargas as “hobbled” and said the Twins might potentially have another look at the injury. Vargas isn’t in a cast, or even an air cast, but he was on crutches, said Molitor.

    After playing sparingly in the WBC competition, Vargas was already going to need to accumulate at-bats to secure the designated hitter role for which he was the leading candidate entering camp. With only five Grapefruit League games remaining after tonight’s tilt, his prospects look grim. Especially given that ByungHo Park has had such a strong camp.

    The Fifth Starter Competition

    Molitor addressed the media prior to the game about Berrios’ demotion and the starts by Adalberto Mejia and Tyler Duffey at the minor league complex this morning. While it was possible that Berrios might have been able to get his pitch count high enough in time for his first start, the Twins were worried about rushing that process. “I was of the opinion, and I think everyone was, that the lack of work and consistency of work ... to try and rush the buildup here in the last ten days to try and get him ready to try and be in that spot didn’t make a lot of sense to me,” said Molitor.

    It should be noted that according to Twins pitcher and Puerto Rico WBC teammate Hector Santiago, Berrios did work while playing with the Puerto Rican WBC team to try to build up his pitch count, including throwing a 55-pitch live batting practice session. “But I know it’s tough for [the Twins] on their side. They want to make sure he’s healthy and they don’t want to force him out there, run him out there and have something happen,” said Santiago, while lamenting the difficult decision.

    Meanwhile, Molitor said that he thought both Duffey and Mejia had good but not outstanding mornings. “It wasn’t a seperator day for me,” said Molitor. “We just kind of need to look at the whole thing and see how it fits.”

    It sounds like this was the last chance for both to make their case. Molitor said he’ll talk with pitching coaches Neil Allen and Eddie Guardado and they’ll make their decision before their next bullpen, which would be Monday.

    Santiago’s Return

    Hector Santiago made his first start since returning from the WBC and threw 77 pitches over four innings. If his next start is in five days, it would be Thursday, the last Grapefruit League game and he would be up to a pitch count of 90. It sounds like he’ll line up to pitch the second game of the season at Target Field on April 5th.

    Others at Twins Daily have analyzed Santiago, but this was my first time charting pitches for the left-hander, and he’s an interesting case. Pitch F/X says he throws a fastball over 60% of the time, and then a changeup 20% of the time and a mix of other stuff. But that’s not what he says, or at least not what he threw tonight.

    He didn’t mention a changeup today at all. He says he threw a lot of fastballs away but concentrated on three offspeed offerings: a slider (which would usually be used against lefties), a curveball (which he usually uses primarily against right-handers, and a screwball (which officially puts me out of my depth).

    He concentrated on the offspeed pitches tonight because he says he threw them so rarely in the WBC. According to Santiago, in his last outing he threw 68 pitches, and only four were not fastballs. That was his focus and probably explains why he only had 49 strikes in the 77 pitches he threw.

    His line was solid enough: three strikeouts in four innings pitched with a walk and four hits. Unfortunately, two of those hits went over the wall, but they were solo shots.

    Kohl Stewart Appearance

    Twins pitching prospect (and #4 overall draft choice from 2013 draft) Kohl Stewart was called over from the minor league complex and brought on the road game to make an appearance in relief. The good news is that he can say he struck out JJ Hardy and Hyun Soo Kim. He can also say he gave up a home run to Chris Davis, which is probably an even better story to tell his grandkids.

    It wasn’t a great outing; he had a lot of trouble throwing strikes, he walked a few guys and he gave up four runs in his two innings. And I hope he doesn’t care one bit.

    Tomorrow is a home game and it would not be surprising if there were some roster moves. Stay tuned….

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    I just published a blog on a possible schedule for stretching out Berrios.

     

    Let me know your thoughts. 

     

    http://twinsdaily.com/blog/877/entry-8798-too-late-idea-for-stretching-out-berrios/

     

    I'm of the belief that if they really wanted Berrios to start the season in Minnesota, they would put together a schedule like this. 

    The "not stretched out enough" explanation for sending down Berrios does make sense, but it's also convenient. And frankly, Sanitago has to do mostly the same schedule you're talking about to get stretched out himself. 

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    How do you read that comment, then?

     

    That Paul Molitor is summoning is inner Al Haig.

     

    "As of now, I am in control here, in the Twins Club House, pending return of the Vice President of Baseball Operations and in close touch with him. If something came up, I would check with him, of course."

     

    So glad you'd check with him.

     

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    I'm of the belief that if they really wanted Berrios to start the season in Minnesota, they would put together a schedule like this. 

    The "not stretched out enough" explanation for sending down Berrios does make sense, but it's also convenient. And frankly, Sanitago has to do mostly the same schedule you're talking about to get stretched out himself.

     

    Thanks Van! Convenient is a great word to describe their explanation. Calling it "misleading" or "b.s." always felt a little too strong and accusatory. I would have preferred they just said from the beginning that he's struggled way too much in MLB so far.

     

    I liked the Santiago comparison better because of the WBC but the timelines of Berrios and Hughes matched so well. Cest la vee, I guess.

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    Thanks Van! Convenient is a great word to describe their explanation. Calling it "misleading" or "b.s." always felt a little too strong and accusatory. I would have preferred they just said from the beginning that he's struggled way too much in MLB so far.

    I liked the Santiago comparison better because of the WBC but the timelines of Berrios and Hughes matched so well. Cest la vee, I guess.

     

    Either Mejia or Duffey will start in the rotation to begin the season. If Berrios had been here from day one, getting his innings and being evaluated, he absolutely could have beat those two out. I think it was far from certain he would have went to the minors.

     

    He obviously wasn't Plan A going into spring, but once May was hurt it opened up the competition.

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    Or he never was an option and the Twins used the WBC as a convenient excuse (copyright Vanimal) to avoid taking too much heat from sending him back to a level he has dominated for 2 years. 

     

     

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    Or he never was an option and the Twins used the WBC as a convenient excuse (copyright Vanimal) to avoid taking too much heat from sending him back to a level he has dominated for 2 years.

    This strikes me as too clever by half. Isn't the easiest course of action just to believe Molitor and the front office?

     

    I understand the disagreement, but sending Berrios is a pretty run of the mill decision that pretty much any other front office would have done. No need for a conspiracy.

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    This strikes me as too clever by half. Isn't the easiest course of action just to believe Molitor and the front office?

    I understand the disagreement, but sending Berrios is a pretty run of the mill decision that pretty much any other front office would have done. No need for a conspiracy.

    Easiest? Yes. Likeliest? I doubt it. 

     

    Vanimal said it perfectly earlier; if Santiago can get stretched out to be the 3-4 starter why can't Berrios do the same thing to be the 5? I don't agree that its a run of the mill decision for a team to option their only above average pitching prospect back to AAA where he has dominated for 2 years before he throws a single pitch in camp. Add to that the state of pitching staff and it does feel a lot like an excuse to dodge some criticism. 

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    Easiest? Yes. Likeliest? I doubt it. 

     

    Vanimal said it perfectly earlier; if Santiago can get stretched out to be the 3-4 starter why can't Berrios do the same thing to be the 5? I don't agree that its a run of the mill decision for a team to option their only above average pitching prospect back to AAA where he has dominated for 2 years before he throws a single pitch in camp. Add to that the state of pitching staff and it does feel a lot like an excuse to dodge some criticism. 

     

    For starters, Santiago has multiple full seasons as a major league starter with at least some success. Berrios hasn't done a thing in the big leagues. Pushing him into this role is setting him up for failure, if not injury. He's much too valuable for that.

     

    I don't think the front office or Molitor care about criticism on this issue. And yes, a young pitcher who has less than a half year of experience in the bigs with terrible performance doesn't usually crack the opening day rotation for any organization, unless they show something for a sustained time in spring training. So very run of the mill.

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    For starters, Santiago has multiple full seasons as a major league starter with at least some success. Berrios hasn't done a thing in the big leagues. Pushing him into this role is setting him up for failure, if not injury. He's much too valuable for that.

     

    I don't think the front office or Molitor care about criticism on this issue. And yes, a young pitcher who has less than a half year of experience in the bigs with terrible performance doesn't usually crack the opening day rotation for any organization, unless they show something for a sustained time in spring training. So very run of the mill.

    What you're calling pushing him into a role I would characterize as granting him an opportunity. AAA is nothing but biding time for him. 

     

    Most teams with promising young arms that have dominated the highest levels of the minor leagues look to promote them to the major league team, especially when they have an awful staff to begin with. The handling of prospects by this team is anything but normal... 

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    What you're calling pushing him into a role I would characterize as granting him an opportunity. AAA is nothing but biding time for him.

     

    Most teams with promising young arms that have dominated the highest levels of the minor leagues look to promote them to the major league team, especially when they have an awful staff to begin with. The handling of prospects by this team is anything but normal...

    He made 14 starts in the majors last yeat. He was promoted. He got a chance. He sucked. He missed a large chunk of spring training. But he'll be back. Probably pretty quick.

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    He made 14 starts in the majors last yeat. He was promoted. He got a chance. He sucked. He missed a large chunk of spring training. But he'll be back. Probably pretty quick.

    Yeah...14 starts....as a rookie.....

     

    Rather than build off of that he is back in AAA, a level he has beaten up, and we're watching Hughes throw bp and Tyler Duffey getting shot number 3 at the rotation. If "sucked last year," was grounds for demotion then Ervin would be the only one standing....

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