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    Seth Stohs

    By Seth Stohs

    At 3:00 central time today, the annual non-waivers trade deadline will pass. The Twins already made one move. Thursday night, they traded Eduardo Nunez to the San Francisco Giants for Adalberto Mejia. Will they be able to reach any more trade agreements today?

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    Several Twins players have had their names mentioned in trade rumors over the last couple of weeks.

    The player seemingly most likely to be traded before the deadline is catcher Kurt Suzuki. He has been mentioned in rumors for a month, and teams can always use a backup catcher. Suzuki is putting together one of his best seasons with the bat and has always had a strong reputation for working with pitchers.

    When Jonathan Lucroy used his veto power to void a trade to Cleveland yesterday, it may have slowed the process. Cleveland is one possible destination for the Twins backstop, though there are several others that would be interested in Suzuki as well.

    At least two Twins bullpen arms are also garnering a lot of attention from scouts the last couple of weeks. Fernando Abad was terrific the first couple of months of the season. He hasn't been as good of late, but the left-hander should be of interest to some teams

    Brandon Kintzler, like Abad, came to the Twins on a minor league contract before the season. He began the season in Rochester. Since he has come up to the Twins, he has been terrific. Kintzler took over the closer's role and has been very good. He missed most of last season with a knee injury, but he has come back stronger this year.

    Since both players are under team control for at least another year, Rob Antony needs to weigh the return with what they believe the pitchers can be next year. On the other side of that coin, the Twins need to make room for the likes JT Chargois, Mason Melotakis and others.

    Could the Twins find a taker who wants Ervin Santana enough to take on the remainder (or most) of his contract and give the Twins a quality prospect or two? Toronto has reportedly shown a lot of interest of late.

    It's hard to imagine a Tommy Milone or Ricky Nolasco trade today, but could the Twins find a team to take them before the August waiver deadline?

    Could the Twins deal Brian Dozier for a big haul? Would they? Do they trust the potential of Jorge Polanco?

    If the Twins make a trade or three before the deadline, we will attempt to post a new article right away, but as rumors and other trades around the league occur, be sure to use this thread to discuss and make predictions.

    How many deals will the Twins make?

    Seth Stohs has been blogging about the Minnesota Twins since May 2003. A founder and owner of Twins Daily, Seth has been a Twins fan for 40 years and has a passion for covering the minor leagues and prospects.
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    Oxtung

    Oxtung 516

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    I'm about as big of a Nolasco non-fan as there is. But if the 'I'm not limited by money' story line that Ryan often relied on were true, then Nolasco's exit was always just a DFA away; no need to give up anything.

     

    This trade may be a net plus if Santiago > Meyer (which seems very possible with Meyer's shoulder issue), but otherwise it's mostly just a Pohlad pocket protector until they're more forthcoming about the true nature of Twins payroll constraints.

    It's also 6 years of Meyer vs 1 year of Santiago (unless the Twins sign him to an extension but that seems unwise).  They could always trade him this winter or next trade deadline I guess, in which case it becomes 6 years of Meyer vs whatever they get in return.

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    Major League Ready

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    Things are looking up ....

     

    • Twins had a pretty decent month in July and the offensive potential is apparent.
    • Nolasco gone.  Thank God!
    • Berrios up and hopefully for good
    • Polanco up and hopefully for good
    • Some decent talent added to the farm system
    • Santiago will improve our staff for next year.
    • Santiago and Santana are potential deadline assets next year if our young core is not able to get us in contention next year.
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    jsimssd72

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    I don't know why but I just get the feeling Meyer had a bad attitude and the Twins got rid of him, like Garza, to just get him out of here.   No proof but just the quietness of his injury and the way he was handled I just get that feeling there was some issues going on behind the scenes.   

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    jimmer

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    It's also 6 years of Meyer vs 1 year of Santiago (unless the Twins sign him to an extension but that seems unwise).  They could always trade him this winter or next trade deadline I guess, in which case it becomes 6 years of Meyer vs whatever they get in return.

    I'm not worried about missing out on six years of Meyer.  He's El Busto.

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    dgwills

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    Such an odd trade. This makes the Twins better this year and next year. Is that worth losing Meyer? It might be since he's been absolutely terrible the last 2 years. I don't think so though. There's still a chance he could be a shut down reliever.

    The Yankees are selling everything that isn't nailed down and they're .500 right now. Guess the Twin's think they can compete next year. I don't see it and adding a #4 starter isn't going to change anything.

    At least I don't have to see Nolasco pitch again and Meyer isn't a huge los

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    clone52

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    The Twins aren't done with Suzuki to that extent, I am pretty sure of that.  Who exactly would replace him?

     

     

     

    True, but the Twins won't necessarily be able to find the team that wants to trade for them in August -- they will be restricted to negotiating, for a 48 hour window, with the worst team that claims them.  Maybe the Padres want to trade a low minors lottery ticket for Abad or Kintzler in August?  Too bad, if one of Braves, Reds, Rays, or Diamondbacks wants to try claiming them for free, if only so they themselves can try flipping them to the Padres (or whomever) for that low minors lottery ticket after the season.

     

    Do those teams have 40 man roster spots available to block moves like that and will they want to use those 40 man spots to try and block a Kintzler or Suzuki trade or do they want to risk them blocking other trades.

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    Mike Sixel

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    Look, I really liked Meyer last year (or the year before......not sure.....)......but they got a legit MLB pitcher for him, who can probably be flipped at next year's deadline, and Meyer may never pitch in the majors. Oh, and they unloaded Nolasco and saved some money.......I hope Meyer becomes awesome, because I just want people to succeed, but I can't rip this deal. Not even in retrospect if that happens....

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    Oxtung

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    So the final tally appears to be

     

    Departures

    Nolasco

    Nunez

    Abad

    Meyer

     

    Arrivals

    Santiago

    Busenitz

    Pat Light

    Mejia

     

    Pending

    Suzuki

    Kinzler

    Santana

     

     

    So we upgraded the rotation for next season with Santiago, replaced Meyer with Light, got a back of the rotation starter for the long haul and a flier with Busenitz in the bullpen. The only thing we gave up in return that had long term implications is Meyer and that was debatable.

     

    I'd say that was a pretty good deadline. Nothing earth shattering but I think the team is improved both in the short and long terms.

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    drivlikejehu

    drivlikejehu 2,201

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    The problem is the deals Antony didn't make, which has been a theme in the past as well. This deadline certainly did nothing to indicate Antony represents anything other than a continuation of the same old.

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    jimmer

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    So the final tally appears to be

     

    Departures

    Nolasco

    Nunez

    Abad

    Meyer

     

    Arrivals

    Santiago

    Busenitz

    Pat Light

    Mejia

     

    Pending

    Suzuki

    Kinzler

    Santana

     

     

    So we upgraded the rotation for next season with Santiago, replaced Meyer with Light, got a back of the rotation starter for the long haul and a flier with Busenitz in the bullpen. The only thing we gave up in return that had long term implications is Meyer and that was debatable.

     

    I'd say that was a pretty good deadline. Nothing earth shattering but I think the team is improved both in the short and long terms.

    Nice deadline for Antony.  For rebuilding purposes, I wish Santana had been traded for prospects, but Antony did very well.

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    laloesch

    laloesch 1,383

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    I really want to know what was on the table between the Jays and Twins for Ervin.

     

     

    Yeah me too.  Jays ended up settling for Scott Feldman and Liriano.  Very interested to see what was going on there before that deal fell apart.

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    Hosken Bombo Disco

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    The problem is the deals Antony didn't make, which has been a theme in the past as well. This deadline certainly did nothing to indicate Antony represents anything other than a continuation of the same old.

     

    Ryan wouldn't have made that last deal in a million years.

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    jimmer

    jimmer 9,961

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    So just throwing it out there; last time Kurt Suzuki didn't get they liked for Suzuki at the deadline and decided to keep him, he got extended.

    I've been long been saying Twins would extend Suzuki so that isn't surprising.

     

    Though a lot of surprising today.

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