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    Seth Stohs

    By Seth Stohs

    At 3:00 central time today, the annual non-waivers trade deadline will pass. The Twins already made one move. Thursday night, they traded Eduardo Nunez to the San Francisco Giants for Adalberto Mejia. Will they be able to reach any more trade agreements today?

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    Several Twins players have had their names mentioned in trade rumors over the last couple of weeks.

    The player seemingly most likely to be traded before the deadline is catcher Kurt Suzuki. He has been mentioned in rumors for a month, and teams can always use a backup catcher. Suzuki is putting together one of his best seasons with the bat and has always had a strong reputation for working with pitchers.

    When Jonathan Lucroy used his veto power to void a trade to Cleveland yesterday, it may have slowed the process. Cleveland is one possible destination for the Twins backstop, though there are several others that would be interested in Suzuki as well.

    At least two Twins bullpen arms are also garnering a lot of attention from scouts the last couple of weeks. Fernando Abad was terrific the first couple of months of the season. He hasn't been as good of late, but the left-hander should be of interest to some teams

    Brandon Kintzler, like Abad, came to the Twins on a minor league contract before the season. He began the season in Rochester. Since he has come up to the Twins, he has been terrific. Kintzler took over the closer's role and has been very good. He missed most of last season with a knee injury, but he has come back stronger this year.

    Since both players are under team control for at least another year, Rob Antony needs to weigh the return with what they believe the pitchers can be next year. On the other side of that coin, the Twins need to make room for the likes JT Chargois, Mason Melotakis and others.

    Could the Twins find a taker who wants Ervin Santana enough to take on the remainder (or most) of his contract and give the Twins a quality prospect or two? Toronto has reportedly shown a lot of interest of late.

    It's hard to imagine a Tommy Milone or Ricky Nolasco trade today, but could the Twins find a team to take them before the August waiver deadline?

    Could the Twins deal Brian Dozier for a big haul? Would they? Do they trust the potential of Jorge Polanco?

    If the Twins make a trade or three before the deadline, we will attempt to post a new article right away, but as rumors and other trades around the league occur, be sure to use this thread to discuss and make predictions.

    How many deals will the Twins make?

    Seth Stohs has been blogging about the Minnesota Twins since May 2003. A founder and owner of Twins Daily, Seth has been a Twins fan for 40 years and has a passion for covering the minor leagues and prospects.
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    Taildragger8791

    Taildragger8791 1,614

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    Pat Light has a walk rate of 6 per 9 in AAA between last year and this year. That's far worse than Alex Meyer, the poster boy for control issues. Seems far fetched that he'll suddenly learn to find the zone but could be useful if he gets that rate down below 4.

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    diehardtwinsfan

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    yeah, no real complaints about Abad for light. If that's the going rate for relievers, I'm fine with it. Now let's get Kintzler out the door so we have an open spot for Chargois. 

     

    10+K/9 is pretty nice.  Walk rate is too high at over 4.  Not a standout prospect, but 5 years of control and potential to be a back of the pen option is nice.  Can never have enough of those.

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    Vanimal46

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    Top 100 guys don't really do anything for me. The majority of them don't pan out anyway and I have zero faith in this organization's ability to develop anyone.

    Then it sounds like this trade deadline isn't going to excite you at all. They're not in the market for established MLB players...

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    drivlikejehu

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    The offense really isn't that far away.  (And I think they'd be closer if they had better coaching). 

     

    Yeah, I mean they are 14th in BaseRuns scored per game. Not amazing or anything, but all things considered it's not bad.

     

    Of course, 28th in BaseRuns allowed per game . . . 

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    amjgt

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    If Santana is on the move and it is to the Jays I would be asking for Reid-Foley, Greene, AND Pentecost. Or say no deal

     

    Funny... I had tabbed Reid-Foley and Pentecost and was trying to figure out my 3rd piece.

     

    Was thinking Perdomo

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    LaBombo

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    It depends on if you're asking how many players are traded or actual trades occur. I think there is a good chance Suzuki and either Kinzler or Abad are packaged in the same deal.

    That's my hope as well. If the Twins' minor league system is as strong as we've been hearing, one B+ prospect is better than two B- 's.

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    ghegge

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    Funny... I had tabbed Reid-Foley and Pentecost and was trying to figure out my 3rd piece.

    It would bring us over 2 quality pitching prospects and Pentecost, who I believe was a top 15 draft pick, at a position of EXTREME need

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    diehardtwinsfan

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    Top 100 guys don't really do anything for me. The majority of them don't pan out anyway and I have zero faith in this organization's ability to develop anyone.

     

    Edit: By top 100 I clearly do not mean top 25 but fringe top 100 guys don't excite me.

     

    Unfortunately, I don't think the Twins have much in terms of capital to get something more than bottom end of top 100.  Dozier would be the only exception in my mind.  I'm just glad that Antony does appear to be moving pieces.  Not sure I'm thrilled about Santana (depending on the return)...

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    notoriousgod71

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    The point is we're focused on the next 5 years not next year.    Who cares if we don't have Santana next year

     

    The point is always five years from now. Even when they were good they were always looking five years in advance.

     

     

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    Danchat

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    I like the Abad trade. Getting Pat Light is a nice return. He's got a 10.5 K/9 in AAA with a 2.32 ERA. If the Twins can figure out how to get his pitches under control, then he could be a very good major league reliever.

     

    Hopefully Chargois will be going up and somebody like Duffey or Boshers will be going down. It's time to give J. T. a fair shake.

     

    Also, if Santana gets traded, it sounds like it'll be the Blue Jays. I wouldn't trade him unless I got a very good offer, so I'm interested to see what might happen.

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    SirLoin

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    I like the Abad trade. Getting Pat Light is a nice return. He's got a 10.5 K/9 in AAA with a 2.32 ERA. If the Twins can figure out how to get his pitches under control, then he could be a very good major league reliever.

     

    Hopefully Chargois will be going up and somebody like Duffey or Boshers will be going down. It's time to give J. T. a fair shake.

     

    Also, if Santana gets traded, it sounds like it'll be the Blue Jays. I wouldn't trade him unless I got a very good offer, so I'm interested to see what might happen.

     

    I guess Molitor said yesterday that Duffey is going to the bullpen.

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    Woody Wants Wins

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    I hope it is Danny.  I don't want to watch Rochester 2.0 play.  Need MLB ready pitchers.  Tommy Millone in two years at Rochester has an ERA 1.50 in 12 starts with a WHIP under 1.  We don't have any of those stats from pitchers at Rochester with maybe Berrios, but he is not going to win 15+ games for a couple of years. They need to keep at one quality starter.  Twins can compete next year.  I also hope i am wrong about Berrios.  Better defense and less strikeouts and Twins are close.  But starting pitching has been a disaster.

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    wsnydes

    wsnydes 12,843

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    I'd be even more happy with that than Ervin actually.....

    Agreed, I'm just not sure that the return featuring a bucket of already chewed Double Bubble and a bag of baseballs with the covers knocked off of them is the HUGE deal that we have in mind.

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    diehardtwinsfan

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    I like the Abad trade. Getting Pat Light is a nice return. He's got a 10.5 K/9 in AAA with a 2.32 ERA. If the Twins can figure out how to get his pitches under control, then he could be a very good major league reliever.

     

    Hopefully Chargois will be going up and somebody like Duffey or Boshers will be going down. It's time to give J. T. a fair shake.

     

    Also, if Santana gets traded, it sounds like it'll be the Blue Jays. I wouldn't trade him unless I got a very good offer, so I'm interested to see what might happen.

     

    Duffey is headed to the pen, so unless Boshers is sent down or Kintzler is traded, Chargois is still in AAA :(

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    Otto von Ballpark

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    Top 100 guys don't really do anything for me. The majority of them don't pan out anyway and I have zero faith in this organization's ability to develop anyone.

     

    Edit: By top 100 I clearly do not mean top 25 but fringe top 100 guys don't excite me.

    If they are currently a consensus top 100, it generally means something is going right for them.  You pretty much have to be playing well, with a bonus for top picks/signings who don't have much experience yet.  It's no sure thing, of course, but it's way better than a project (or even a bunch of them) like Pat Light.

     

    Nick Gordon was perhaps a "fringe" top 100 guy after 2014, Tyler Jay after 2015... Alex Meyer after 2011 (his draft year), etc.

     

    Agreed on your skepticism about this org's ability to develop that talent, but I don't want us to stop acquiring talent either.  Hopefully those issues get addressed this winter too.

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    nicksaviking

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    Duffey is headed to the pen, so unless Boshers is sent down or Kintzler is traded, Chargois is still in AAA :(

     

    Plan can change especially pending the returns they get and the pieces they move at the deadline. I wouldn't be surprised if they back off of the Duffey to the pen bit in favor of Chargois.

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    Loosey

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    Agreed, I'm just not sure that the return featuring a bucket of already chewed Double Bubble and a bag of baseballs with the covers knocked off of them is the HUGE deal that we have in mind.

    If they toss in a tin of Skoal or Grizzly Wintergreen I bet the Twins would take it.

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