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  • John Ryan Murphy Traded For Intriguing Lefty Reliever


    Seth Stohs

    The Twins announced that catcher John Ryan Murphy has been traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for 22-year-old Double-A lefty reliever Gabriel Moya.

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    Acquired following the 2015 season from the New York Yankees in exchange for Aaron Hicks, John Ryan Murphy started the 2016 season with the Twins. When he didn't hit in the first month, he was sent down to Rochester where he has spent most of his time since.

    He has been very good defensively (elite-level pitch framer), but the 25-year-old backstop just was not able to reach the offensive potential that was assume when he spent parts of three years catching for the Yankees.

    As Nick pointed out shortly after the news came out, this would explain the addition of Anthony Recker in the Twins/Braves trade earlier this week.

    https://twitter.com/NickNelsonMN/status/890611421985161216

    While this trade may not be a page turner, a Mark Feinsand tweet from a bit ago may create further discussion.

    https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/890605061272780802

    In Moya, the Twins get a young pitcher who has worked solely as a reliever in his career. This year at AA Jackson, he is 4-1 with a 0.82 ERA in 34 outings. In 43.2 innings, he has issued just 12 walks and struck out 68 batters.

    Jeff Wiser is the preeminent Arizona Diamondbacks prospect expert. Find his work at Inside the Zona. Here are his thoughts on Gabriel Moya:

    Moya is a pitchablity over stuff kid at present. The fastball isn't overwhelming, but he can throw it for strikes and gets ahead of hitters. The changeup is special and is easily his best offering. Hitters don't see good changeups very frequently in the lower levels of the minors, explaining some of his success. He's held his own and exceeded expectations in AA, however. Facing AAA hitters could provide a bigger challenge, guys that have professional approaches and have seen some quality changeups in the past. He's been pretty dominant to date, but given his size and raw stuff, it's prudent to remain slightly skeptical until he faces better hitters. He's proven he can handle AA, and if it all breaks right, he could end up a solid middle reliever.

    From Darren Wolfson:

    https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/890622910305492992

    According to Baseball America, Moya had the Best Changeup in the Diamondbacks minor leagues.

    Here is a scouting report from 2080 Baseball from before this season:

    Quick Hit: Not an overly physical kid, Moya does have some strength to his medium-sized frame and manages to get very good swing and miss despite just average velocity. The arm works very well, and he has excellent body control throughout the delivery that helps him get out front on a consistent basis. The changeup is his best pitch, with a chance to be plus with hard bottom that plays up due to the small crossfire and easy arm action. The fastball is pretty straight and in the low 90s, but it is sneaky quick and gets on hitters.

    He handled both righties and lefties and showed very well in his first full season above rookie ball. Historically, he has done a great job keeping the ball on the ground, but saw the fly ball rate spike a bit once he moved to High A. But he only gave up two bombs in 44 2/3 innings in the homer-happy Cal League and the low hit totals (5.4 H/9 in 2016 across Class A and High A ball) remained consistent. Expect him to head to Double-A in 2017 and if he repeats his success there, could be ticketed for Phoenix later in the summer of 2018 with eyes on him being a solid sixth-to-seventh inning contributor.

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    Just a quick note on "losing" Justin Haley. I live in New England where the only baseball news I get in the papers or on local TV is about the Red Sox. There has been no mention of Haley being returned. That leads me to think that even the Red Sox don't think much of Haley.

    Obviously they don't, since they didn't put him on their 40-man roster.

     

    But I will add, it didn't generate much mention in the local press here either -- a quick Google search says it was only noted by the Star Tribune in the Garcia trade story, because it was clearing a 40-man roster spot.  And since it didn't involve any kind of 40-man spot for Boston, it's not surprising if it was not mentioned there at all.

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    The trade of reference isn't Hermann, it's Butera, for Miguel Sulbaran, who looked pretty intriguing as a 19 year old throwing a 3.0 ERA in A ball. That actually ended up badly.

     

     

    Not really.  Sulbaran brought Nunez who brought Mejia.  I'd trade Buterrible for Mejia every day of the week.

     

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    Herrmann had a 1.5 WAR season last year and Palka will likely never have a meaningful mlb career. I wouldn't call that a "good" outcome for the Twins.

    Eh, Palka is a disappointment but Herrmann had an extremely lucky year. I call the trade a wash, a shuffling of deck chairs. Chris Herrmann, as it turns out, has turned back into exactly what we knew he was.

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    The fact that we got anything for Murphy is awesome.  A bag of new baseballs would have been a great get.

    Yes, at this point, just clearing him off the 40 man is a victory of sorts. It's nice to get a lottery ticket for him, just as the Twins did with Palka.

     

    The thing about lottery tickets is that they often don't pan out. It doesn't mean it's a bad deal. If you're releasing a sure loser to pick up a possible winner, that's a deal you make every time.*

     

    *not that Murphy is a sure loser, but he's damned close to it at this point

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    Eh, Palka is a disappointment but Herrmann had an extremely lucky year. I call the trade a wash, a shuffling of deck chairs. Chris Herrmann, as it turns out, has turned back into exactly what we knew he was.

    I don't even disagree, it is a wash or a trade that that really commands minimal thought. Just don't agree it was a "good" outcome for the Twins.

     

    I suspect this trade ends up the same. I don't mind taking on a lottery ticket, especially since Murphy had no purpose in the org anymore with the emergence of Garver. But people underrate catching depth and overrate relief prospects. It's a trade that works both ways.

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    And so the book closes on two moves:  Hicks for a fringy reliever and the first overall pick in the Rule 5 draft for, well, nothing, as the pick was first traded (for nothing) and the player eventually selected was returned.

     

    And posters want this front office to make MORE deals?

    I do. Haley made sense coming off a 103 loss season. Since we are still in the hunt, no time to babysit a Rule 5 pickup. Things are fluid right now.
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    To succeed in the post season the Twins do not need to beat Oakland.  They will need to beat the likes of the Astros, Red Sox and Dodgers.  And they have proven that they cannot win a series against those teams, neither at home nor on the road.

     

    The Twins are 20-30 against opponents with winning record.  Even if they beat another horrible team this will not make them contenders.

    The schedule is favorable the rest of the way. A win against a bad team, counts the same as a win against a good team. They could finish the season with a run, just like the Royals did in 2014. All the talk back then was the Royals were going to clean house, but then they got hot. The rest is history.

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