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    Nick Nelson

    We're about to find out.

    When Derek Falvey was hired to run Minnesota's baseball ops, he brought with him a rep as a pitching guru, partially responsible for constructing the enviable staff in Cleveland. That group, of course, wasn't assembled through big-money free agent signings, but through savvy trades and superior development strategies.

    So it comes as no surprise that he's attempting to apply this same model with the Twins. It's why he was hired.

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    While Ivy League educations are now becoming the norm at 1 Twins Way, it didn't take a Harvard grad to see that Minnesota needed to seriously upgrade its rotation for 2018.

    Opinions differ on the seriousness of their attempts, but the Twins did take a shot at top names like Yu Darvish and Chris Archer this offseason. When they deemed the threshold for acquiring these potential aces too high for their liking, Falvey and GM Thad Levine lowered their gaze substantially and pivoted to a pair of extremely low-risk – and seemingly low-upside – options.

    On Friday, they signed free agent Anibal Sanchez to a non-guaranteed deal that will max out at $5 million if he sticks and earns incentives. A day later, they traded shortstop prospect Jermaine Palacios to the Tampa Bay Rays for right-hander Jake Odorizzi.

    These certainly aren't the kinds of authoritative, high-impact additions fans hoped to see. In terms of money, commitment length, and player capital, the Twins gave up very little to bring the two aboard. It appears Falvey is going all-in on his revamped department's ability to maximize these assets and extract hidden value.

    Between the two cases, there is a common thread worth keeping an eye on.

    Suite of Arms

    Ever since he arrived in 2016, Falvey has been systematically and continually building out the organization's baseball operations. His inspired outside hires have included Director of Baseball Operations Daniel Adler and Director of Minor League Operations Jeremy Zoll, both renowned for their intelligence and analytical chops.

    Falvey is a strong believer in collaboration, astutely understanding that successful execs surround themselves with the right people and listen to them. To this end, he has put a clear focus on pitching specializations. Last summer, the Twins brought in former big-league hurler Jeremy Hefner as a data-driven video scout. In December, they lured Josh Kalk – considered a pitching analytics expert – away from the Rays as a senior analyst.

    That latter name is interesting with regard to Minnesota's newest player acquisition.

    Kalk is of course very familiar with Odorizzi, who threw almost 700 innings in Tampa after being picked up in the 2012 James Shields trade. The right-hander was highly effective in 2015 and 2016, posting a 3.53 ERA and 3.98 FIP. With those kinds of numbers, he'd be a slam-dunk add for Minnesota – especially at the cost of Palacios, a good-not-great prospect who was buried on the org depth chart.

    Of course, Odorizzi wasn't that same pitcher in 2017, producing career-worsts in ERA (4.14 ERA) and FIP (5.43). But it stands to reason that Kalk and others see something fixable.

    Leveraging the very same PitchF/X data that Kalk is said to have excelled with using in Tampa Bay, Travis Sawchik of FanGraphs argued over the weekend that Odorizzi may be one adjustment away from turning the corner. The piece is worth reading, as Sawchik lays out pitch usage, location, release points and more to establish a fairly convincing case for Odorizzi's issues being correctable.

    The Anibal Challenge

    Turning around a pitcher like Odorizzi – a former first-rounder and top prospect who's still only 27 and has a recent track record of MLB success – isn't a monumental undertaking. Far more ambitious was the assignment Minnesota's brain trust took on a day earlier, with the signing of Sanchez.

    When news came down on Friday afternoon that the Twins had reached agreement with the embattled right-hander, it hit like a ton of bricks, for numerous reasons. Pent-up frustration of a long and unfulfilling winter, punctuated by the recent Darvish letdown, surely factored.

    But there's also this: Sanchez has been one of the worst starting pitchers in the league over the past few years. Twins fans have watched from up-close while his $80 million contract with the Tigers deteriorated into a liability they paid $5 million to cut loose after last season.

    In 2017 Sanchez faced the Twins far more than any other team, and posted an 8.69 ERA against them. In 2016 he went 0-4 with a 10.13 ERA in four starts against Falvey's Indians.

    This front office has has seen Sanchez at his worst, extensively, and they still wanted him. In an odd way, that kind of inspires confidence.

    While it's easy to draw parallels, this isn't in the same vein as ill-fated past investments like Kevin Correia or Jason Marquis. It could easily end up the same way, but the Sanchez signing wasn't simply an attempt to procure veteran innings, regardless of their quality. It's said to be an "analytically driven" move.

    And, at a glance, there is some validity to it. Last September, Tigers reporter Evan Woodbery wrote that while Sanchez's time in Detroit was assuredly coming to a close, "There will be a team (or perhaps several) enticed by his peripherals, which remain incredibly, absurdly, inexplicably strong for a pitcher with a 7-ish ERA."

    Sure enough, it would seem the Twins weren't alone in having interest. Although Sanchez's contract is non-guaranteed, it is a major-league deal, meaning that he will occupy a 40-man roster spot in camp and is entitled to more compensation if he gets cut than your typical non-roster invite (e.g. last year's nonconventional pet project, Craig Breslow).

    The fact that an MLB contract was required to get this done suggests Minnesota was not bidding against itself. Despite the ugly numbers, Sanchez has some legitimately appealing qualities. His 3.59 K/BB ratio in 2017 would've outranked every Twins starter. He induced a spectacular 15% swinging strike rate over his final four starts and averaged a strikeout per inning in the second half.

    Just like Odorizzi, the 34-year-old hurler's biggest weakness last year was the long ball.

    Although his fastball has gradually lost its oomph, becoming entirely too hittable in the process, Sanchez's splitter-changeup remains a powerful weapon. He also has that much in common with Odorizzi, who himself leans on a vaunted split-fingered change, having learned the grip from former Rays teammate (and current free agent) Alex Cobb.

    It's worth noting that Fernando Rodney, another newly minted member of the Twins pitching staff, features a "magic changeup" of his own. The changeup was said to be a key focus that Neil Allen brought over from Tampa's system when he came on as pitching coach, and while he has moved on, that emphasis evidently has not.

    The Big Gamble

    In acquiring Odorizzi and Sanchez, the Twins are minimizing their material risk. They've only given up an expendable prospect and about $11 million, tops. They're not tied to either pitcher beyond 2018 (though Odorizzi will be arbitration-eligible again in 2019).

    But in another sense, they're taking a huge risk, by betting so strongly on their own ability to help these pitchers cut down on long balls and reach another level of production. Misguided overconfidence would be hugely detrimental, because this pitching staff needed a much bigger jolt than the 2017 versions of Odorizzi or Sanchez would provide. Much bigger.

    The Breslow experiment, while carrying far lower stakes, went down as a whiff on Falvine's first analytically driven attempt to uncover a diamond in the rough. Will these ventures, overseen by a collection of brilliant minds in the front office and guided by a new pitching coach in Garvin Alston, turn out more favorably?

    For a team that's already making a number of precarious gambles in the rotation, with players like Kyle Gibson and Adalberto Mejia figuring to land spots, rounding out the mix with Odorizzi and Sanchez is a harrowing choice, even if the mindset behind it is sound and reasonable.

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    You seemed to have missed my point. The bottom end pitchers we use this year are likely to be Gonsalves, Romero, Slegers, Littel etc. That could be light years better than Colon, Turkey,Tepesch .

    They could also be just as bad. Rookie pitchers often struggle. Look at Berrios and May's rookie seasons.

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    Signing an ace would push our current 1-5 starters down to 2-6. That's probably a better way to improve depth than acquiring more 4-5-6 types.

     

    You make it sound like the Twins could only have one ~4 WAR pitcher. Having Berrios add 1-2 WAR would be nice, but so would adding Darvish's ~4 WAR over, say, Hughes/Sanchez -- without costing any prospect capital, and not making us overly reliant on the vagaries of the trade market (and helping us from day 1 of the season rather than day 1 after the trade deadline too).

    Darvish would have been great. He probably would have enabled them to compete for the division. But, he's not in the cards anymore. My point is that there is reason to believe the current rotation has some upside. Heck, if Hughes is actually healthy, maybe he'll contribute something. They shouldn't rely on such a sunny outcome, because it's not likely. If they need to add another 4 WAR pitcher, however, they have the pieces to trade for one.

     

    Edit: I don't think they'll get Archer before opening day, but he could definitely be a possibility at the deadline. We know they've already discussed him with Tampa. It could be a matter of assessing what they've got and circling back before making that trade. I think a deadline deal could be comparable to what they'd pay now, given the mix of deadline premium and less team control. We'll see, I guess.

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    Well Odorizzi was worth 0.1 fWAR last year, so he's not going to give you that many wins over the -0.3 fWAR that you cited.

    True, but I don't see him being as bad as last year. I have no idea why. Nothing to base it on obviously, but if he even hits those projected stats he's better than Colon, Santiago and the 10-12 or however many others that they had last year. The Twins were awful beyond Berrios and Santana and managed to win 85 games. With that rotation and bullpen I expected another 90 loss season. Was it just all luck to win 13 more games than that? If it was, then the Twins will be lucky they win even 80 this year.

     

     

    the obvious question: have Falvine done much of anything to improve spots 5-16?

    It requires a leap of faith to conclude they have.

    Have they done much by grabbing more number fives and on? I'd say no because they've only added Sanchez for that and they've added Odorizzi who will slot in higher than five. Whether his production is more than a five, we will see. Hughes and May too could be added to the number five, but health isn't in the FO control and right now I expect zero contribution especially from Hughes.

     

    Again, I wanted Darvish and Archer (who I didn't mention before). I'm not jumping up and down for Odo and Sanchez, but I at least understand Odo will probably be an improvement over Santiago and Colon unless he goes in the wrong direction even more.

     

    On paper I'd much rather have Mejia, Slegers, Jorge, Gonsalves, Littell as the five spot depth over Santiago/Colon (whatever one you want to count, Turley, Slegers, Jorge, Tepesch. The 2018 guys aren't guaranteed to be better on the field, but I like them better on paper.

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    You seemed to have missed my point. The bottom end pitchers we use this year are likely to be Gonsalves, Romero, Slegers, Littel etc. That could be light years better than Colon, Turkey,Tepesch .

    Colon was actually replacement level for us -- I wouldn't be so confident that Slegers and a bunch of AA guys in their MLB debuts could notably exceed that. Not to mention Duffey and return-from-surgery May.

     

    And you had Sanchez in your list the first time, and removed him this time. Assuming he is 6 or 7 in our current depth chart, you might be talking about ~15 starts from those "bottom end pitchers" below him -- how much overall staff improvement can we project from that?  I'd rather have upgraded ~60 of the regular rotation starts.

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    I see both of these moves as good moves in a vacuum; the question is what they mean in the context of this offseason. I agree with Nick's premise--this is a good test of Falvine's pitching evaluation.

     

    Sanchez is an extremely low-risk signing. The question will be what they do with him. If they cut him during spring training or he makes the rotation and pitches like a major league pitcher, it's a good move. It's only if they mis-evaluate him and give him a roster spot he doesn't deserve that this one haunts us.

     

    There's no question Odorizzi is worth more to this organization than Palacios. In many ways, this trade reminds me of the Aaron Hicks for John Ryan Murphy trade. As a trade, it's a good one. As a Twins fan, I'm underwhelmed that this is how the front office has chosen to fill a glaring hole. Overall, I'm trusting their evaluators to see something real there and find value if this is their solution.

     

    The Hicks deal obviously didn't work out. The Odorizzi deal makes me nervous in that the Rays are known for their pitching savvy, too. But I'm willing to see what comes of it.

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    I see both of these moves as good moves in a vacuum; the question is what they mean in the context of this offseason. I agree with Nick's premise--this is a good test of Falvine's pitching evaluation.

     

    Sanchez is an extremely low-risk signing. The question will be what they do with him. If they cut him during spring training or he makes the rotation and pitches like a major league pitcher, it's a good move. It's only if they mis-evaluate him and give him a roster spot he doesn't deserve that this one haunts us.

     

    There's no question Odorizzi is worth more to this organization than Palacios. In many ways, this trade reminds me of the Aaron Hicks for John Ryan Murphy trade. As a trade, it's a good one. As a Twins fan, I'm underwhelmed that this is how the front office has chosen to fill a glaring hole. Overall, I'm trusting their evaluators to see something real there and find value if this is their solution.

     

    The Hicks deal obviously didn't work out. The Odorizzi deal makes me nervous in that the Rays are known for their pitching savvy, too. But I'm willing to see what comes of it.

    Great post!

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    Cobb is available to sign, but we were instead interested in trading for 2 other Rays pitchers. We sign Kalk to run numbers. And in the end we choose Hodor. Could be nothing. Could be significant.

     

    Also, I believe Sanchez only helps our depth of he makes the team. Less than 50%in my mind. K not guaranteed, and signed prior to the Hodor trade.

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    Also, I believe Sanchez only helps our depth of he makes the team. Less than 50%in my mind. K not guaranteed, and signed prior to the Hodor trade.

    It's tricky, because Sanchez is guaranteed roughly ~$500k. His signing was so close to the Odorizzi trade, that I don't think the two pitchers are seen as mutually exclusive.

     

    Even if Sanchez gets cut before opening day and doesn't get the extra $2 mil, he's probably going to consume a fair number of spring training innings which may make it a little harder to sort the depth guys behind him. (And if he makes the team, he's not really "depth" like a pitcher in reserve -- he's actually a front-line guy.)

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    I see both of these moves as good moves in a vacuum; the question is what they mean in the context of this offseason. I agree with Nick's premise--this is a good test of Falvine's pitching evaluation.

     

    Sanchez is an extremely low-risk signing. The question will be what they do with him. If they cut him during spring training or he makes the rotation and pitches like a major league pitcher, it's a good move. It's only if they mis-evaluate him and give him a roster spot he doesn't deserve that this one haunts us.

     

    There's no question Odorizzi is worth more to this organization than Palacios. In many ways, this trade reminds me of the Aaron Hicks for John Ryan Murphy trade. As a trade, it's a good one. As a Twins fan, I'm underwhelmed that this is how the front office has chosen to fill a glaring hole. Overall, I'm trusting their evaluators to see something real there and find value if this is their solution.

     

    The Hicks deal obviously didn't work out. The Odorizzi deal makes me nervous in that the Rays are known for their pitching savvy, too. But I'm willing to see what comes of it.

    Nit pic: the Hicks-Murphy trade was awful from day one. Awful, from any perspective.

     

    Nothing like this, IMO. I agree Odorizzi is worth much more to the Twins than Palacios.

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    Interesting. The pitch is described as a splitter almost everywhere I've read -- MLB.com, Baseball Prospectus, Detroit's local newspaper... 

     

    Yeah, again, it's a common mistake because of the movement, but there's no grip evidence that he throws a splitter (unlike Odorizzi). And part of the reason I brought it up in the comments section was because I noticed Rhett and Aaron's articles citing that as such.

     

    As a background: MLB's pitchfx data uploads into a raw format without any cleaning and labels a lot of his pitches as a splitter based on algorithms on those movement metrics (which is why BaseballSavant.com's data has him throwing a splitter instead of a changeup). I would guess Rhett Bollinger simply looked there for information (or maybe some other MLB database) which carries the raw pitch data. When the Twins first signed him I initially went there and assumed he threw a split-change.

     

    Places like BrooksBaseball.com (and Baseball Prospectus) employ methods to clean it up to ensure pitches are categorized accurately. Those guys actually go through images and get confirmation on what type of pitch each pitcher has before categorizing them. It's the nerdiest of baseball data nerd stuff. 

     

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    So when you look at Fangraphs' "Pitch Info Pitch Type" section under a player's page, that's the data that has been scrubbed. Pitch Info is the group that runs Brooks Baseball. Under the generic Pitch Type section for Sanchez and Odorizzi, it has both pitchers throwing Changeups and no Splitters. However, snce Pitch Info knows Odorizzi throws his with a split grip, they have moved those pitches to the Split Fastball category.

     

    It's splitting hairs at this point (pun intending) because if you get the same movement regardless of the grip, should the pitch be categorized by the movement or the grip? 

     

     

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     If the Twins could win 85 with that bad of production for 100+ innings, adding in Odo should be an easy upgrade and help a team win more than 85.

     

    The Twins had a 81-81 BaseRuns record last year; I would use that as a baseline. And keep in mind that Dozier probably isn't going to be a 5-win player again, Santana almost certainly would be bound to regress even if he didn't have to miss a month+ recovering from finger surgery, and Sano probably is going to serve a long suspension, too. I know that a lot of fans are counting on big improvements from the young players to offset problems like those, but the projection models aren't anticipating that, either.

     

    If the Twins are going to get back to the WC game, they'll need a lot of nice surprises--Odorizzi solving his HR problem, a good year from Gibson and/or Hughes, a couple of youngsters becoming All-Stars, another big year from Dozier, a sustained Mauer comeback, and some nice cluster-luck. Otherwise it's probably a .500-ish team.

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    The Twins had a 81-81 BaseRuns record last year; I would use that as a baseline. And keep in mind that Dozier probably isn't going to be a 5-win player again, Santana almost certainly would be bound to regress even if he didn't have to miss a month+ recovering from finger surgery, and Sano probably is going to serve a long suspension, too. I know that a lot of fans are counting on big improvements from the young players to offset problems like those, but the projection models aren't anticipating that, either.

     

    If the Twins are going to get back to the WC game, they'll need a lot of nice surprises--Odorizzi solving his HR problem, a good year from Gibson and/or Hughes, a couple of youngsters becoming All-Stars, another big year from Dozier, a sustained Mauer comeback, and some nice cluster-luck. Otherwise it's probably a .500-ish team.

    I didn't think the Twins were going to make the WC if they did nothing. I wasn't even sure adding Darvish would do it, though I still wanted him. I think it's going to take 90 wins to get a WC. That may be slightly high, but I think it would be smart for all contending teams to think that way. The Twins have always needed two pitchers. Odo helps, but nowhere near as much as a Darvish or Archer. I would have been shocked if they added either.

     

    What I know is the Twins won 85 with a rotation of Berrios and Santana, and a bullpen of Rogers, Kintzler and Hildenberger. Even if that team only won 80 wins...that's a freaking miracle. Add better players to that and they should get right back to it again, unless they were more like 15 wins lucky rather than five. I do expect Kepler and Buxton to improve and pick up the slack that others lose. I expect Odorizzi to be another Gibson and while that sounds awful, it is actually a big upgrade on a good chunk of other players.

     

    There is no reason why this team shouldn't be a mid-80s win team again, unless last year was a fluke. I obviously do want more wins then that and a better team than that and better players than they added, but this is what we've got. I think the bullpen is better and I think the rotation is better. It's not Darvish and Archer better, but it's better...at least in my eyes. Like I said, I'm not jumping for joy at these moves. The only move I truly loved was Reed, but I see an improvement on paper even if it isn't as big of one as I'd have liked.

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    It’s interesting that they both employ the splitter. As I recall, it was a pitch the Terry Ryan regime actively discouraged prospects from throwing (claiming it was more likely to lead to injury). Personally, I always thought the Twins discouraged prospects from throwing it because it led to strikeouts which tends to lead to bigger paydays.

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    Is This Front Office Truly Enlightened About Pitching?

     

    Based on the evidence we have:

     

    2016 Twins' pitching: 5.08 ERA, 1.453 WHIP, 7.4 K/9, 3 BB/9 
    2017 Twins' pitching: 4.59 ERA, 1.372 WHIP, 7.3 K/9, 3 BB/9

     

    The new FO, with pretty much the same pitchers and the same raw numbers (K/9, BB/9) was able to chip half a run and about a hit per game.  And that with the old pitching coach who, based on the fact that was fired, I suspect was not on board with their methods.  

     

    If they strip another half a run and another hit a game this season, that will put the Twins at 4.09 team ERA and 1.272 team WHIP.  In 2017 those numbers would have been 5th in the AL, just ahead of the Astros', last season.

     

    So far so good, what they are doing is working and I hope that it continues to work.

     

    Might not be enlightened enough to make people who do not want to come to Minnesota, like Otani and Darvish, to do so, but even Dalai Lama cannot do that...

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    Well, if he was "fixed" then why did Tampa Bay trade him for a single good but not great prospect?

     

    Money.  Tampa is trying to cut as much money as possible from their payroll.  Heck, the released a guy who was an All-star last year and there were rumors that they might have released Odorizzi as well.

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    Money. Tampa is trying to cut as much money as possible from their payroll. Heck, the released a guy who was an All-star last year and there were rumors that they might have released Odorizzi as well.

    FYI, they didn't release Dickerson, they DFA'd him. Most likely to force a trade.

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    It's splitting hairs at this point (pun intending) because if you get the same movement regardless of the grip, should the pitch be categorized by the movement or the grip? 

     

    That was kind of what I was pondering after your first comment. Thanks for all the detail and images, good stuff.

     

    Btw, all this talk about splitter/changeups had me thinking back to Jared Burton and all the buzz around his "splangeup." Back then it was considered kind of a unique pitch. Now, not so much? Seemingly the hybrid has grown more common. 

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    one can be enlightened about pitching and also have bad results with your staff choices.  An enlightened evaluator can like a pitcher and be right that the pitcher is good for any reason but why that person  said the pitcher would be,    There may be fine tuning needed of Odorizzi and his chronically high fastball. Sanchez had poor catchers in Detroit along with poor fielders in Detroit. It is hard to get GB out like he used to when the batter lays off the pitch, elevates and celebrates, or the fielder just does not move well enough to catch the ball.  

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    Based on the evidence we have:

     

    2016 Twins' pitching: 5.08 ERA, 1.453 WHIP, 7.4 K/9, 3 BB/9

    2017 Twins' pitching: 4.59 ERA, 1.372 WHIP, 7.3 K/9, 3 BB/9

     

    The new FO, with pretty much the same pitchers and the same raw numbers (K/9, BB/9) was able to chip half a run and about a hit per game. And that with the old pitching coach who, based on the fact that was fired, I suspect was not on board with their methods.

     

    If they strip another half a run and another hit a game this season, that will put the Twins at 4.09 team ERA and 1.272 team WHIP. In 2017 those numbers would have been 5th in the AL, just ahead of the Astros', last season.

     

    So far so good, what they are doing is working and I hope that it continues to work.

     

    Might not be enlightened enough to make people who do not want to come to Minnesota, like Otani and Darvish, to do so, but even Dalai Lama cannot do that...

    Hasn't it already been shown a few times on this board that the ERA improvement in 2017 (and then some) were the result of improved defense, not better pitching, and that adjusting for defense, the pitching was actually worse in 2017?

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    Hasn't it already been shown a few times on this board that the ERA improvement in 2017 (and then some) were the result of improved defense, not better pitching, and that adjusting for defense, the pitching was actually worse in 2017?

     

    One way of improving pitching is that.  Better defense.  This Front Office decided that Sano is not an outfielder and improved in the catcher position.  That went long ways.  Also better intelligence about how to place defenders based on individual pitchers.  That went another long ways.

     

    Really excited to see what a new pitching coach will bring to the team.

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    The front office will be real enlightened should the guys that take the mound improve from their performances of last year.  Will Berrios take that next step and be close to becoming a real ACE?  Will Santana return close to what he was last year?  Will Hughes be healthy, in which case he could be the pitcher he was in 2014...after all it is an even year?  Were Odorizzi's problems last year all injury related?  Can Mejia take another step in his second season?  And will Gibson finally be the pitcher he was in August/September?  

     

    There is a good chance some, or even most, of those questions will have positive answers.  That being the case, I am going out on a limb and picking Phil Hughes for opening day.  He will be followed by Berrios, Odorizzi, Gibson and the winner of the battle between Mejia and Sanchez.  Should Sanchez lose that battle, I expect he will be either released or traded if he has a decent spring.  

     

    If there aren't any injuries by the time Santana returns, Mejia is the logical candidate to go down to Rochester.

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    It is clear that the leadership sees something that we do not. This is a quote from Falvey an ESPN article that was posted yesterday (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/22505175/jake-odorizzi-welcomes-trade-minnesota-twins-tampa-bay-rays-cut-costs))

     

    "This guy has upside," chief baseball officer Derek Falvey said. "I think he's kind of one of those guys who's sneaky, ends up in the top of your rotation, and it might not be the big velocity or otherwise, but the way he pitches and the way he manages contact, guys don't square it up often."

     

    I just hope that he isn't setting himself, or the fans for that matter, up for disappointment. 

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    The front office will be real enlightened should the guys that take the mound improve from their performances of last year.  Will Berrios take that next step and be close to becoming a real ACE?  Will Santana return close to what he was last year?  Will Hughes be healthy, in which case he could be the pitcher he was in 2014...after all it is an even year?  Were Odorizzi's problems last year all injury related?  Can Mejia take another step in his second season?  And will Gibson finally be the pitcher he was in August/September?  

     

    There is a good chance some, or even most, of those questions will have positive answers.  That being the case, I am going out on a limb and picking Phil Hughes for opening day.  He will be followed by Berrios, Odorizzi, Gibson and the winner of the battle between Mejia and Sanchez.  Should Sanchez lose that battle, I expect he will be either released or traded if he has a decent spring.  

     

    If there aren't any injuries by the time Santana returns, Mejia is the logical candidate to go down to Rochester.

    Lots of optimism here a very spring like post! Hughes the pick to click! I am liking the overall depth and less chance of some of the the guys they through out there to start last year. That was hard take.

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    Lots of optimism here a very spring like post! Hughes the pick to click! I am liking the overall depth and less chance of some of the the guys they through out there to start last year. That was hard take.

    They aren't where they need to be yet, but things seem like they're trending up. Let us never forget the days of P.J. Walter, Pedro Hernandez, Cole DeVries...

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