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  • HOU 11, MIN 0: Completely Dominated


    Tom Froemming

    Well, you couldn’t have expected the Astros’ lineup to be held down for long. One night after being shut out, Houston tagged the Twins for 11 runs. Oh, and they got an even better pitching performance, as Gerrit Cole pitched seven one-hit innings while striking out 11 batters.

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    Box Score

    Pineda: 5.0 IP, 9 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 65.3% strikes (64 of 98 pitches)

    Home Runs: None

    Multi-Hit Games: Kepler (2-for-3, 2B, BB)

    WPA of +0.1: None

    WPA of -0.1: Cruz -.127, Pineda -.164

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    (chart via FanGraphs)

    This game actually got off to a very encouraging start for the Twins. After Michael Pineda pitched a 1-2-3 top of the first inning, Gerrit Cole walked the first two batters he faced and fell behind Nelson Cruz 2-0.

    That concluded the positive portion of the evening for Minnesota. Cole battled back and induced a double play, though to be fair that pitch was absolutely obliterated. The Twins didn’t get another base runner until the fifth inning and didn’t have a hit until the sixth. By that time, Houston had already busted open a 7-0 lead.

    In the grand scheme of things, this is just one loss to a good team. But if Pineda can’t be a dependable piece in the rotation, well that would be something to fret about. After giving up just five earned runs on 13 hits over his first 15 innings of the season, Pineda has now surrendered 15 earned runs on 24 hits in 14 innings since. Not good.

    To be fair, this was a 1-0 game entering the fifth inning, so it’s not like Pineda was completely overmatched from the start. Outside of those rough first couple batters from Cole, however, Twins hitters were most definitely overmatched. Cole was a beast tonight, and is up to 65 strikeouts in 43 1/3 innings this year. Just silly.

    Oh, and the bullpen was bad too. Adalberto Mejia looks completely lost. He walked three of the five batters he faced and threw just 10 of his 27 pitches for strikes. The Twins also played their worst game in the field all season. Just a dreadful all-around performance, really.

    Positives? Well, Max Kepler got two more hits. Fernando Romero looked pretty nasty in a scoreless ninth. He didn’t seem to have much command, but his stuff was moving all over the place. Let’s see, one more positive … uh … at least there weren’t many people who had to suffer through the whole thing?

    https://twitter.com/ShipleyMN/status/1123417618323509253

    Bullpen Usage

    Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:

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    Next Three Games

    Wed vs. HOU, 7:10 pm CT (Perez-McHugh)

    Thu vs. HOU, 12:10 pm CT (Berrios-Peacock)

    Fri at NYY, 6:05 pm CT (Gibson-TBD)

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      On 5/1/2019 at 1:32 PM, VATwinsFan said:

    I wonder if there is anyone out there who would give up a decent pitcher or two for Sano?

    Probably not right now. At best, maybe you could find a similar struggling "project" but even that might be a challenge. I notice Arizona demoted Zach Godley to the bullpen, for example, but they wouldn't really have a place to play Sano right now either (they're getting good production at 1B and 3B, and no DH).

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      On 5/1/2019 at 3:01 PM, spycake said:

    Probably not right now. At best, maybe you could find a similar struggling "project" but even that might be a challenge. I notice Arizona demoted Zach Godley to the bullpen, for example, but they wouldn't really have a place to play Sano right now either (they're getting good production at 1B and 3B, and no DH).

    I believe teams would come out of the woodwork to trade a decent pitcher or two. We have 2 more years of control after this season, he's cheap, plenty of time to deal once he's healthy etc.   Let's not forget prior to 2018, some members wanted to DFA Pressly and Gibson. No need to panic.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 2:56 PM, spycake said:

    I don't know about that -- Reed's minor league numbers seem pretty marginal. I suspect he might be in the same class as Bard and Curtiss before him.

     

    Yeah, it's usually not a good sign when a minor league pitcher who's already getting to go max-effort in a relief role still doesn't dominate. There's nowhere to go up from there unless something else improves.

     

    After the injuries and wear/tear, does he still throw as hard as he did 2-3 years ago? Is his strikeout rate artificially elevated because he lives out of the zone too much, or does he actually have consistent swing-and-miss stuff?

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      On 5/1/2019 at 2:56 PM, spycake said:

    I don't know about that -- Reed's minor league numbers seem pretty marginal. I suspect he might be in the same class as Bard and Curtiss before him.

     

     

    Yeah, and maybe even one level below those two.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 12:18 PM, rdehring said:

    Ouch!!!

     

    Just don't feel good when Pineda is on the mound. 

     

    In his defense, facing the Astros in back-to-back starts (one start in a band-box, the other in an ice-box) isn't exactly the ideal situation for any pitcher.

     

    Just wait until Pineda faces the White Sox, Royals, Tigers et al, he'll be a 10 win guy when it's all said and done.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 3:56 PM, bighat said:

    In his defense, facing the Astros in back-to-back starts (one start in a band-box, the other in an ice-box) isn't exactly the ideal situation for any pitcher.

     

    Just wait until Pineda faces the White Sox, Royals, Tigers et al, he'll be a 10 win guy when it's all said and done.

    So, a number 4 or 5 pitcher? That's a pretty low bar. I hope he's better than that!

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      On 5/1/2019 at 3:58 PM, Mike Sixel said:

    So, a number 4 or 5 pitcher? That's a pretty low bar. I hope he's better than that!

    He was certainly signed and advertised to be more than a back end starter...

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      On 5/1/2019 at 10:52 AM, theBOMisthebomb said:

    The attendance was abysmal again last night. MLB.com says 12,181. Ouch. This has to have some Twins execs losing sleep. They have really only had one home game with truly nice weather that I can remember - a night game against the Jays. Otherwise, it's been pretty miserable at Target Field this season weather wise. Would the attendance have been worse if they were 10-17 rather than 17-10? I don't think it would have mattered. People are fatigued by the cold weather after this past winter we endured.

    There were not half that many people there. I was there...Most of those marked as in attendance most definitely were not there

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      On 5/1/2019 at 4:09 PM, goulik said:

    There were not half that many people there. I was there...Most of those marked as in attendance most definitely were not there

     

    Was the second deck even open?

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      On 5/1/2019 at 2:19 PM, JLease said:

    His command looks rotten too. way too many pitches that really aren't close. Making it way too easy for a hitter to wait for a 3-ball count and a grooved fastball right now.

     

    certainly didn't help it was a night where the D was discombobulated and the hitters were flailing at everything.

     

    Write it off as a bad night, hope cruz isn't injured, and run it back tonight.

    As I just said above, I was at the game. Pineda looked to be working quickly and was on the verge of getting through the first two innings with around 20 pitches when we committed our first error of the night. Pineda survived two errors without allowing an unearned run but by the 5th inning you could see him clearly frustrated and giving the defense behind him looks of frustration. The errors were not the only questionable to bad D behind him. I honestly felt sorry for him and his defense left him hanging out to dry throwing way more pitches than he should of through the first several innings. It's no wonder he melted down and lost complete control in the 5th and 6th.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 4:14 PM, MMMordabito said:

    Was the second deck even open?

    My tickets were in the upper deck (free from a local radio station...someone else won them and gave them to me so...) We were not alone up there but we only stayed up there for 1.5 innings before deciding we would rather stand under the warmers down a level or two than sit up there in a fairly brisk breeze.

     

    Fortunately we moved down before the drizzle resumed.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 1:07 PM, ashbury said:

    Reed is not on the 40-man, so almost certainly he will have to wait until the FO makes a decision that some current player simply can not be salvaged. It's May now, so that time may come soon.

     

    Like Addison Reed, for example. Moving him to 60 day DL would solve that problem.

     

    Edit: Actually, not even. There’s still only 39 on the 40 man since de Jong was removed.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 3:58 PM, Mike Sixel said:

    So, a number 4 or 5 pitcher? That's a pretty low bar. I hope he's better than that!

     

    Coming off Tommy John and a 1.5 year layoff, I don't think we can expect #2 production from Big Mike unfortunately.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 7:46 PM, bighat said:

    Coming off Tommy John and a 1.5 year layoff, I don't think we can expect #2 production from Big Mike unfortunately.

    I was hoping for a 3. Someone we could trust to pitch a play-off game. I didn't expect an 2/3 type for two years at 10M. With Berrios, Gibson, and Odorizzi/Pineda looks to me we have it covered. I've penciled in Romero and Thorpe for next season.

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      On 5/1/2019 at 4:04 PM, Vanimal46 said:

    He was certainly signed and advertised to be more than a back end starter...

    He's being paid $8 million.

    That is 4th or 5th starter money for a FA.

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