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  • Are the Twins Destined for an Andrelton Simmons Reunion?


    Cody Christie

    This winter, Minnesota's most significant need is pitching, which might push other needs to the backburner. Does that make a reunion with Andrelton Simmons more likely?

     

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    Last winter, the Twins were focused on making improvements to their infield. Adding a shortstop allowed the team to move Jorge Polanco to second base, where there could be less physical wear and tear on his body. Minnesota was interested in players like Marcus Siemen, Didi Gregorius, and Andrelton Simmons. Siemen agreed to terms with Toronto, and Gregorious resigned with the Phillies. This left Minnesota focused on Simmons. 

    At the time of the signing, the Twins were saying all the right things about Simmons. "There are so many ways that he fits into what we do and what we are trying to accomplish," said Twins manager Rocco Baldelli. "We have one of the best, I think, pitching staffs as a whole in the American League, and for us to be able to complement that group with basically one of the greatest defenders of our generation, and to be able to put Andrelton at the shortstop position, which also allows us to really solidify everything going on in the rest of our infield as well."

    Unfortunately, everything didn't work out perfectly with the Simmons signing. Besides his strong defensive skills, he was known for his elite contact ability. He had the worst offensive season of his career as he hit .223/.283/.274 (.558) with a 57 OPS+. All of those totals were career lows, and he struck out over 60 times for only the third time in his 10-year career. His defense was still strong, but the offense was tough to swallow. 

    Besides his offensive flaws, Simmons was also at the center of some off-field distractions this season. He declined to get the COVID vaccine, and then he tested positive for coronavirus in April. He also made comments about his anti-vax opinions on social media. Leading into spring training, he dealt with visa issues, and he couldn't go with the team to Toronto later in the season because of visa and immigration issues. His season couldn't have gone much worse across the board.   

    By season's end, fans were frustrated to see Simmons in the line-up regularly when he didn't have a long-term obligation to the club. Playing someone like Nick Gordon at shortstop would allow the club to evaluate him for the long term. However, the club has seen Gordon play shortstop throughout his minor league career, and they may have already decided that he won't play the position regularly at the big-league level.

    This winter is a prime offseason to be looking for a free-agent shortstop. One of the best free-agent shortstop classes in MLB history is available, with names like Carlos Correa, Corey Seager, Javier Baez, and Trevor Story headlining the list. Other potential options include Chris Taylor, Freddy Galvis, Jose Iglesias, and old friend Simmons. There are multiple intriguing names, but why would the Twins consider circling back to Simmons?

    Minnesota has many needs this winter, and spending money on a top-tier shortstop can be expensive. Simmons signed for $10.5 million last winter, and his cost is estimated to be significantly less in 2022. In the 2022 Twins Daily Offseason Handbook, his contract is estimated to be $3 million, which is not much in the grand scheme of an MLB roster. MLB.com also identified him as a prime bounce-back candidate after his horrible offensive season. 

    Signing Simmons to a one-year deal can also keep shortstop open for one of the team's top prospects. Both Royce Lewis and Austin Martin have played shortstop during their professional careers, but neither may play the position long-term. Signing one of the top-tier shortstops likely pushes both of these players off the position moving forward. 

    Fans will be disappointed if Simmons returns next season, but there's a real possibility of a reunion, at least for the 2022 campaign. Do you think Simmons will return to Minnesota? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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    If we have relegated ourselves to re-signing Simmons, the off-season didn't go as planned.  

    At that point, we should shift to sell mode.  Get as close to mlb ready prospects for Buxton, Garver or Jeffers, Sano, Donaldson...

    We seem to have a good young core that is close to mlb ready.  Let's use next year as our year to develop talent, and let's kick butt again in 2023 for many years to come.  

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    Some seem to think we have multiple SS candidates in our farm system. I don't even consider Martin there except maybe backup, am I wrong? We'll be lucky if we have one prospect with starting SS potential and that's Lewis only, if even.

    How many baseball players in the world are there that could be considered good MLB SSs? 15? 20? It's such a small number that to assume Lewis is just waiting in the wings is disrespectful to the craft. He has to prove himself there and has not done that yet. And Martin seems like such a longshot to land at SS I'm not even considering it for a second.

    Simmons isn't one of the better because he was so poor at the plate and isn't what he used to be in the field, but he used to be one of the greatest defensive SSs of all time, so I would like him back, even if we landed one of the big FAs.

    I think we should approach this as if we currently do not have a decent SS in the entire organization right now, unless Polanco moves back. I'd be OK with that because we have plenty of guys who could play 2B in 2022 and it would have the side benefit of opening up 2B for others. Polanco is the only player we have right now who could be relied upon as opening day SS.

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    35 minutes ago, Wax off said:

    Some seem to think we have multiple SS candidates in our farm system. I don't even consider Martin there except maybe backup, am I wrong? We'll be lucky if we have one prospect with starting SS potential and that's Lewis only, if even.

    How many baseball players in the world are there that could be considered good MLB SSs? 15? 20? It's such a small number that to assume Lewis is just waiting in the wings is disrespectful to the craft. He has to prove himself there and has not done that yet. And Martin seems like such a longshot to land at SS I'm not even considering it for a second.

    Simmons isn't one of the better because he was so poor at the plate and isn't what he used to be in the field, but he used to be possibly one of the greatest defensive SSs of all time, so I would like him back, even if we landed one of the big FAs.

    I think we should approach this as if we currently do not have a decent SS in the entire organization right now, unless Polanco moves back. I'd be OK with that because we have plenty of guys who could play 2B in 2022 and it would have the side benefit of opening up 2B for others. Polanco is the only player we have right now who could be relied upon as opening day SS.

    I'd say we don't have a decent SS in the organization even IF Polanco moves back there.

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    I'm suddenly seeing the Twins resign (and early) ann three of the free agents. Of course, Colome is either an acceptance by him or a buyout. Pineda may be grabbed, as well as Simmons, for decent prices that the front office can't refuse. Expecially with the collective bargaining agreement out there.

     

    My gripe on any of the three is evaluating their worth at this season's trade deadline. They got the Twins nothing. Na-na for legit offers. And, in a losing season, the Twins chose to give all three innings that better could've been given to players for the team's future...if nothing else for experience, and certainly evaluation.

     

    $15 million for the three may be in the works. Too much? Too little? What else could you egt for $15 million to make the team better!

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    51 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

    I'd say we don't have a decent SS in the organization even IF Polanco moves back there.

    I mean whole package. If he hits like he did last year he's decent even if he's the 30th place defensively.

    I'd prefer we bring in a SS, but if it's Simmons, would you prefer him or Polanco to take majority of SS innings then? 

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    16 hours ago, mikelink45 said:

    Yes, I will be disappointed.  I just do not see the great glove that the metrics claim.  I saw a player who was indifferent at times, who missed opportunities that would not show in the statistics.  I still use the eye test, and he failed my vision.

    I agree wholeheartedly. He dropped a lot of balls. He was a disaster. It would be much better to sign Iglesias and his .271 avg and good defense for $3 M which is the same as Simmons is projected at.

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    15 hours ago, wsnydes said:

    I'd be pretty disappointed.  That said, it would make some sense if the FO thinks Martin or Lewis (or someone else) will be ready this season, just not on Opening Day.  I can understand that logic.  I won't like it in the interim, but that approach does make sense.  He's likely to be an easy DFA decision.

    Iglesias!

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    12 hours ago, farmerguychris said:

    No thanks.  I'd rather have some growing pains with one of our SS rookies over Simmons again.  A rookie will make some mistakes, but hopefully won't infect a team with anything preventable.

    Yep,  89 loses is not enough we want a full 100.

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    Excellent article and comments.  I many times get the vibes that even the FO doesn't know which way they are going.  I'm guessing they keep Simmons on another one year deal assuming he wants to come back.  Should they? No! Under no circumstances should Simmons and Colome' be back next year.  But I'm guessing both will be.  As for hitting coaches; the Twins signed a minor league hitting instructor from the Dodgers system that hasn't been above AA.  How is he to help veteran hitters when he hasn't been there himself?  I think it's part of the Twins trend of going younger and inexperienced to go cheap again.

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    11 hours ago, Wax off said:

    I mean whole package. If he hits like he did last year he's decent even if he's the 30th place defensively.

    I'd prefer we bring in a SS, but if it's Simmons, would you prefer him or Polanco to take majority of SS innings then? 

    If they bring in Simmons, they're not doing it to play Polanco at SS.

    And I personally don't want them to move Polanco back. That, to me, is a worse option than Simmons.

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    I would seriously consider tuning the Twins out for an entire year if Andrelton Simmons is our plan in 2021.  I want absolutely no part in that.  

    If a defensive placeholder is all you want than sign Galvis.  But I prefer we swing big.  Whomever it is, even if they are an all field/no hit shortstop....it just can't be Simmons again.  I can't watch another year of disgusting at-bats.

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    2 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

    So replacing Simmons with a rookie will cost us 11 games? 

    Yep.

    While Polanco is far from a top 2nd Base Man, Donaldson, Simmons and Polanco are an excellent infield; sticking a rookie in there makes the infield SS just a AAA experiment.

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    1 hour ago, TheLeviathan said:

    I would seriously consider tuning the Twins out for an entire year if Andrelton Simmons is our plan in 2021.  I want absolutely no part in that.  

    If a defensive placeholder is all you want than sign Galvis.  But I prefer we swing big.  Whomever it is, even if they are an all field/no hit shortstop....it just can't be Simmons again.  I can't watch another year of disgusting at-bats.

    I am hoping for an upgrade but I would not refuse to watch them.  His ABs are roughly 5% of the show so I am not denying myself baseball because I don't like one of the players.  However, I agree with you in that I can't stand watching his ABs.  I record the game and let it get ahead.  Then, just FF through the commercials, pitching changes, and certain ABs.  

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    8 hours ago, USAFChief said:

    If they bring in Simmons, they're not doing it to play Polanco at SS.

    And I personally don't want them to move Polanco back. That, to me, is a worse option than Simmons.

    If they only pay him 3 mil, he could spell Polanco and would be a good insurance plan if Polanco were out for extended period.

    I prefer we land a top SS in FA, but I would still like Simmons back if he's only a few million. He's slick with the glove and has at one point reached a level of fielding few ever have, if not only the great Ozzie Smith. I'd love to have his experience on my team and a solid backup defensive SS for cheap.

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