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  1. Maybe its time to leave Martin alone and let him hit the way he's comfortable hitting. IMO if he can play defense, a lower avg. is OK as long as his OB avg stays reasonable.
  2. Depressing. Martin- As long as he keeps the OBP up I don't care about the power. How many times have the Twins had runners on first and third with no outs and then walk away with nothing because guys struck out while swinging for the fences. The bigger issue with Martin is where does he fit on defense. Canterino- I don't have his medical records and I'm not a doctor. But yeah, one has to wonder if this situation could have been handled differently. Balazovic-In 2000 at AA Kyle Lohse went 3-18 with a 6.04 ERA. He went on to have pretty respectable career. Sometimes you have to struggle to find and toughen yourself.
  3. Of note, the fourth affiliate, the one that didn't make the playoffs, is the Saints... and there are no Triple-A playoffs. Also, there is such a turnover on that roster that it would be impossible to find any consistency to compete. Even just this past weekend, Rodriguez was supposed to start on Saturday, he got called up Saturday morning. Henriquez was supposed to start Sunday. He got called up Sunday morning. "Excuses?" Sure... also just the reality of a feeder affiliate. Varland and Festa... Headrick. Nowlin... Traded Povich and Hajjar (with Steer and CES) to get Lopez and Mahle. They're developing pitching prospects. Those prospects now just need to make that final step. Guys like Ryan, Ober, Winder, Varland are a pretty solid starting point.
  4. I was really worried about that when the Twins hired Wes Johnson. As much time as they spend working on mechanics and studying the video of arm angles and release points (and all that has helped keep Bailey Ober's arm healthy, and probably others)... I also worry about the focus on velocity. It's a tough thing because its' clearly really important in the game, but it isn't natural for an arm. There have been arm injuries, but (without looking) I don't think there have been more than before. But yes, I do think that the whole medical staff and training philosophy needs to be analyzed... and I have no doubt in my mind that has been an ongoing study as well. How many of the injuries were freaky, can't do much about it kind of things (broken bones, hit by pitches, etc) and how many are soft tissue, muscle types of things.
  5. Gotta agree with everything here EXCEPT that Byron Buxton wasnt worth the contract. Even injured, he has performed at a value that far exceeds what he is being paid for 2022.
  6. In another article, Nick says "Hope Sinks"....let's be honest. Hope left the station a while ago. But, today is a nice reminder that Joe Ryan will slot in very nicely as the #4 starter next year. Maybe as he gains more experience he'll learn how to get really good lineups out. At the very least, Mahle-Gray-Maeda-Ryan has the potential to be a very nice top 4 in the rotation in 2023.
  7. Who are these detractors you speak of? The ones who say Ryan has a #3 caliber rotation arm ceiling? That's me. Ryan is currently a back end starter. That does not preclude him from having great games and I think it's great that he's pitched so awesome. Kevin Slowey had a 4 game run in 2008 that looked like this: 4 G, 29.0 IP, 0.93 ERA, 24 K, 2 BB Kyle Gibson had a 3 game run in 2014 that looked like this: 3 G, 21.0 IP, 0.00 ERA, 16 K, 5 BB Randy Dobnak started had a 3 game run in 2019 that looked like this: 3 G, 16.1 IP, 1.10 ERA, 13 K, 3 BB Dylan Bundy, who has constantly been crapped on by the staff and fans of this site opened the season with: 3 G, 15.1 IP, 0.59 ERA, 12 K, 1 BB I like Joe Ryan. I think he'll stick in the Twins rotation and he's inexpensive. I also remember he got hammered in his two previous starts before these last 2 really great games he's spun.
  8. Coming into the 2022 season, Twins Daily ranked Austin Martin, Jordan Balazovic and Matt Canterino as the first, fourth, and sixth best prospects in the organization, respectively. Not only were they high-caliber talents with polish and big upside, but they were all more or less on the precipice of major-league readiness. In each case, things hardly could've gone worse. Whether performance, injury, or a combination, each of these critical assets saw his stock nosedive over the past summer, and it adds another layer of complexity for a front office trying to build its way back to contention. With that said, hope isn't lost for any of these three. Let's take a look at each of their campaigns so far, as things come close to wrapping up here in September. Austin Martin and the power that never came. The prize of last year's José Berríos trade at the deadline, Martin was billed as a near-ready prospect right out of the gates. It was warranted, after he led all of Double-A in on-base percentage during his first pro season. Despite his resounding success, Minnesota sent Martin back to the same level this year, no doubt hoping he'd shore up his biggest weakness from 2022 – an absence of power to complement the excellent OBP – and earn a quick call-up to Triple-A or even the majors. That didn't happen. Martin's power trended the wrong direction this year. After slugging .382 with a .127 ISO and five home runs in 418 PAs between New Hampshire and Wichita, this year he's slugging .317 with an .074 ISO and two home runs in 406 PAs at Wichita. Martin has kept his on-base skills steady, with a .367 OBP despite the crummy .241 average, but his lack of ability to drive the ball with any authority almost renders it moot. Posting a .685 OPS as a 23-year-old in your second turn at Double-A, with no apparent underlying injury, is nothing short of disastrous. Given all the injuries the Twins have faced this season, it's likely Martin would've gotten a chance at some point if he'd even modestly improved his production from a year ago. His drop-off eliminated that possibility and will leave him as something of an afterthought heading into 2023. Martin's going to tank on national prospect lists, where he ranked around #50 by consensus coming into the season. Why you shouldn't lose hope: Martin would hardly be the first player to develop significant power rapidly in his mid-20s. In fact, two "shortstop" prospects who came before him in the Twins system serve as optimistic precedents: Brain Dozier totaled 14 home runs in 317 games through his first three minor-league seasons. Five years later he would set an American League record by launching 42 as a second baseman in 2016. Jorge Polanco hit 35 total home runs total in 598 minor-league games, and could barely muster an XBH in his early days. He hit 33 home runs for the Twins last year. Jordan Balazovic's puzzling struggles in St. Paul. We had Balazovic ranked as the #1 pitcher in the system coming into this year, following a strong campaign at Double-A where he posted a 3.62 ERA and 9.5 K/9 rate as a 22-year-old. Relative to other arms in the system, Balazovic had a more consistent track record and more established workload base, which is why it seemed feasible to envision him playing a significant role in the Twins rotation this year. His abominable performance at Triple-A has done away with that notion entirely. Balazovic started a month late with the Saints due to a knee strain. While he ostensibly put that behind him, staying healthy enough to take the mound each sixth day, he has never seemed right at any point. The right-hander's performance with St. Paul has been beyond awful. In 62 ⅔ innings across 20 appearances, he's 0-6 with a 7.47 ERA. Opponents have slashed .342/.412/.625 against him, as both his walk and home run rates have spiraled out of control. Balazovic has made 19 starts for the Saints and completed five innings ONCE. In late June, Balazovic told Dean Spiros of the Pioneer Press his struggles were "like a puzzle; every day it’s something new." "I’ve never pitched like this,” Balazovic said. “Last year (at Double-A Wichita) my numbers started to get worse in the second half because I was working on stuff. That’s kind of carried over to this season a little bit, but not to where it should be affecting me this bad.” The big 6-foot-5 righty boiled his issues down to consistency and execution, but expressed hope he was getting closer to solving the puzzle. "I’m still hoping for that day," he said, "and I’m hoping that day is tomorrow." It wasn't. The following day he needed 60 pitches to get through 2 ⅔ innings against the Iowa Cubs, allowing five hits (two homers) and two walks. His next time out he coughed up five earned runs in three innings against Omaha. These have been typical results for Balazovic this year, and as a result he's slid down a pitching pipeline hierarchy that's already been depleted by the Chase Petty trade and the development we'll look at next. Why you shouldn't lose hope: Balazovic didn't quite follow through on his "hoping that day is tomorrow" goal, but he might not have been far off? While he bombed in his next two starts, he's been on a bit of a roll ever since, posting a 2.52 ERA and 29-to-11 K/BB ratio with just three homers allowed over 25 innings in his past six starts. Sometimes guys need to experience their worst to unlock their best. Balazovic has plenty of talent to rebound and get back on track. Matt Canterino and the elbow that finally gave way. Canterino's elbow is the only thing that's stood in his way. Drafted 54th overall in 2019 after blowing people away at Rice University for three years, the hard-throwing righty immediately started doing the same to professional hitters. In a 25-inning debut between rookie ball and Low-A, he posted a 1.44 ERA with 31 strikeouts and only eight hits allowed. Then, the pandemic happened and wiped out the 2020 season. In 2021, he was limited to 23 total innings by a forearm strain (he posted a 0.78 ERA when he was able to pitch). This year, his elbow soreness re-emerged and while the Twins continually tried to navigate around it, treating surgery as a last resort, they eventually ran out of options. "It felt like we didn't have anymore stones to turn over," said assistant GM Jeremy Zoll. Unfortunately, the efforts to avoid surgery only delayed it, and now Canterino's prospective impact has also been pushed well down the line. Since he didn't undergo Tommy John until last month, Canterino will likely miss all of next year rehabbing, meaning that by the time he's ready to fully return to the mound, he'll be a 26-year-old with fewer than 100 innings as a pro. It's really difficult to come back from that. Why you shouldn't lose hope: Difficult, but not impossible. The biggest cost of all this lost time would theoretically be missed development for a guy who's barely been able to get in-game reps since being drafted three years ago. For Canterino, I'm not sure it matters as much. He's basically always looked like a guy ready for the majors when he's pitched, with raw stuff that speaks for itself. So long as that stuff remains mostly intact after the surgery, he'll have a chance to get back up to speed quickly and make his long-awaited impact on the bullpen, even if it's not until 2024. Feeling bummed out? I hear you! Make sure to check back tomorrow when I break down the most uplifting developments on the farm for the Twins this year ... Good news: I couldn't manage to limit that list to just three.
  9. For me, Lopez continuing to struggle was the big news out of this game. He looks like the “old” Lopez ever since the Twins acquired him. Never bet on a reliever who has a half year of success. I hope I am wrong and he comes back strong next year.
  10. Falvene were hired to create a farm system that could produce position players and front line pitching. They have been in charge for at least 5 years. Overall, their player scouting and development operation has produced almost no front of the rotation starters or everyday position players. They have to often missed on the prospects and players they traded for. The rate of injuries throughout the farm system over an extended period of time is a growing concern. As we end this season we don’t have established everyday players at catcher, first base (unless that is Miranda’s position next year), shortstop (assuming Correa opts out), third base, and all three outfield positions. With the exception of Ryan we have no real front of the rotation pitchers and the bullpen needs a lot of work. Covid certainly played a role in where we find ourselves. That said, Falvene also bears some responsibility for where the team finds itself. I’d welcome a reasoned discussion of how responsible they are for where things stand.
  11. It might also be possible that his poor play at SS is affecting his batting. With Lewis and Lee both ahead of him at SS, it's time to move him to another position and see if his hitting improves.
  12. Right. Sanchez throws out more base runners than MLB average and dramatically better than Jeffers. Sanchez allows fewer passed balls and wild pitches than MLB average, similar to Jeffers. Sanchez is ranked above average at pitch framing this year a bit behind Jeffers = Sanchez sucks defensively. The stats actually do not support the opinion Sanchez being a poor defensive catcher. The argument Jeffers is a significantly better defensive catcher than Sanchez seems to have no merit from a stats standpoint. Sanchez's bat does seem to have gone ice cold again over the past couple weeks, which is a bummer, but I sometimes wonder if Sanchez uses custom printed Twins Daily staffer images on his toilet paper... Nice to see Ryan pitching deep again. Good things happen when Baldelli lets the starters who are on their game continue to pitch and go into the later innings. I can't help but feel the division title would be in play had Baldelli extended this opportunity to other rotation arms.
  13. Good morning Twins fans and welcome back to the ever popular workday game thread! For those of you still working from home go ahead and turn on the TV and watch the game while pretending to listen and participate on conference calls. If you're working in an office close your office door and get the radio going. If you work in a cubical city put your EarPods in and listen or watch the game from your computer of smart phone. If those options don't sound appealing go ahead and take the day off. You have my permission. Well, the Twins have certainly spiraled out of control. I'm still in the denial stage of my grieving process...I think anger comes next...I'll wait for the anger stage to kick in before posting anything new in the forums. I will keep this short since we are playing for pride now and not the playoffs.... Today's Lineups: TWINS: 1. Luis Arraez, DH 2. C. Correa, SS 3. J. Miranda, 1B 4. Nick Gordon, 2B 5. G. Urshela, 3B 6. G. Celestino, CF 7. Jake Cave, LF 8. M. Wallner, RF 9. S. Leon, C SP - Sonny Gray, RHP (8-4, 2.83 ERA) CLEVELAND: 1. S. Kwan, LF 2. A. Rosario, SS 3. J. Ramirez, DH 4. J. Naylor, 1B 5. O. Gonzalez, RF 6. A. Gimenez, 2B 7. T. Freeman, 3B 8. L. Maile, C 9. M. Straw, CF SP - Cal Quantrill, RHP (12-5, 3.51 ERA)
  14. Lopez has been infected by the Pagan virus. What was lost in this debacle is that Palacios's K/9 fell from 27 to 13.5. How tragic.
  15. Time to bring up some more of the kids and see what they can do. It does no good to see the marginal vets now that we are pretty much out of this.
  16. Disagree. He's hitting .241 at Double-A. That isn't playable in the big leagues, his average will be below .200. He has already shown he doesn't play elite SS defense and that is what it takes to carry a bat that weak. He doesn't need 25 HR power but he does need to hit the ball hard enough to ISO above .100. He had an ISO of .200 at Vanderbilt.
  17. The 2023 Twins will face the same issues the 2022 Twins did - bad pitching. Sonny Gray is a real ML pitcher and easily our best one. Joe Ryan is a solid back of the rotation starter but wouldn't be a starter on a playoff caliber rotation. Mahle has shoulder issues so we can hope he's healthy but should probably plan on only getting 100 innings from him. Maeda is 35 and coming back from injury. His last season with us, he produced a 91 ERA+ and .3 WAR. We should probably expect more of that production then any SSS. So the Twins need pitching. Tons of it. The pipeline is a failure. The pitching philosophy is boring and a failure. So, lots of work to do in the offseason.
  18. Great writing, Nick. Unfortunately, the topic is too bloody sad to appreciate.
  19. Hmm, maybe it was a good idea to not have Joe Ryan throw 140 pitches in his last outing... hmm...
  20. 4 points
    I know the OP focused on just three but IMO it was even worse than that. I would go on to argue Strotman and Henriquez and to some degree Sands were all equally disappointing at the minor league level as well. The top of the 2020 draft with Sabato and Soularie continued to disappoint as well. I am giving Cavaco one more year but he too looks out of his depth at the plate. So yeah plenty of of disappointing players on the farm this year and could argue the OP has the top three as those players all ranked higher in the system but the the disappointment goes beyond those 3. I know I keep harping on it but the Twins need that pitching pipeline up and working without it they cannot compete. They seem to be good at getting the most from guys drafted late but they all seem to be 5th starter types. They need to find some front of the rotation types as well to make this work. There were plenty of positives in the system as well. Far more positive player outcomes than negative in the system Varland and Festa to name just a few. With three of the 4 affiliates making the playoffs the system has good players the question is do they have elite players or MLB difference makers there? I hope so.
  21. I agree. IMHO, Canterino is another example of the Twins failing to deal with medical issues appropriately. If they plan to turn over every "stone" before looking at surgery, a lot of prospects are going suffer. By delaying surgery, they cost him this year and next year. Too bad, the kid has the talent to pitch in the bigs.
  22. If only we could’ve won Friday/last game of twin bill Saturday. Ugh!!!! Still a big win-if we win today/sox sweep Cleveland/us KC sox series at end of season could decide division-it’s a long shot highly unlikely but you never know. I’ll always watch the twins no matter what as this season has been roller coaster as this will only be learning experience as I think future is bright and 2023 will be big year for us
  23. Week in Review: Hope Sinks

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    4 points
    Actually you can angle the clipboard to direct the ball to your throwing hand for super quick transitions. More double plays my friend.
  24. Great rookie seasons for Ryan and Duran. Truly impressive. And Waller with a couple of hits. A good 2 days for him overall.
  25. 3 points
    Weekly Snapshot: Mon, 9/12 through Sun, 9/18 *** Record Last Week: 4-3 (Overall: 73-73) Run Differential Last Week: +6 (Overall: +18) Standing: 3rd Place in AL Central (6.0 GB) Last Week's Game Results: Game 140 | MIN 6, KC 3: Twins Lose No-No in Ninth, Win Easily Game 141 | MIN 4, KC 0: Gray Leads Shutout with Seven Scoreless Game 142 | MIN 3, KC 2: Bullpen Locks Down Slim Lead for Sweep Game 143 | CLE 4, MIN 3: Twins Can't Hold Onto 3-Run Lead Game 144 | CLE 5, MIN 1: Wallner Homers in Debut, Twins Lose Game 145 | CLE 6, MIN 5: 15-Inning Marathon Yields Same Result Game 146 | MIN 3, CLE 0: Twins Salvage Win Behind Ryan's Brilliance NEWS & NOTES As this lost season winds down, the Twins continue to fittingly be besieged by a never-ending onslaught of injuries. Max Kepler became the latest to join the infirmary pack this past week, with his wrist issue forcing him onto an injured list that already includes fellow planned lineup staples Byron Buxton, Jorge Polanco, Alex Kirilloff, Ryan Jeffers and Trevor Larnach. Polanco, who's been sidelined for weeks by a knee injury, tried to give it a go in a rehab start at St. Paul on Friday night but couldn't make it all the way through, exiting after five innings. He's probably done for the season. Jeffers and Larnach had more encouraging starts to their rehab assignments, and both have a chance to make it back for the final slate of games, for whatever that's worth. As a silver lining to Kepler going down, the IL move did create an opportunity for Matt Wallner, who homered in his major-league debut on Saturday. In this total wreck of a season, it's nice at least to see local boys like Wallner and Louie Varland get these chances – well earned with monster years in the minors. Another young player set to get his first chance: Ronny Henriquez, who was promoted on Sunday despite posting a 5.66 ERA at St. Paul. Not quite as well earned, but they just need bodies on the staff at this point, basically. HIGHLIGHTS The Twins have this going for them: they can still flat-out dominate the Royals. They ran up their winning streak against Kansas City to seven with another sweep at home, suppressing any hint of offensive threat from the woeful Royals lineup. On Monday, Joe Ryan pitched seven innings of no-hit ball before being lifted at 106 pitches. Reliever Jovani Moran nearly completed the feat, but the Royals were finally able to get on the board in the ninth. Sonny Gray looked somehow even more dominant the following night, tossing seven shutout innings of his own. Thursday saw the bullpen step up with a huge string of clutch performances, as five different relievers contributed one shutout inning apiece to maintain a slim one-run lead. Relievers weren't able to hold up quite as well on Friday, following an excellent return to action from Bailey Ober (5 IP, 0 R), but we'll get to that later. After flirting with a no-no in his first start of the week, Ryan turned in one of the finest performances of his career in the second, hurling 7 ⅔ shutout innings against Cleveland. He allowed just three hits and two walks in the highly efficient outing, lowering his ERA to 3.61 in the process. While Ryan has shown his warts this year (namely, a problematic proneness to home runs), he's undoubtedly been one of the team's most successful starters, and is on his way to finishing strong. LOWLIGHTS Plenty of frustration has been aired far and wide about the Twins and their management of the pitching staff. Personally, I don't have a problem with the general philosophy, given their personnel. But it's the complete rigidity of Minnesota's strict adherence to the playbook that gets to me. There's no room for reacting to circumstances, or pushing the boundaries when it's absolutely necessary. Take Friday night for example. The Twins had every reason to set aside their cautionary nature and push Ober a bit in his return to action. He looked great. He was at only 70 pitches through five innings. Most importantly, the bullpen had been run ragged in protecting a tight lead for five innings the previous day, and a double-header was on deck the next. Didn't matter. Ober came out after five innings, as is custom. Rocco Baldelli ran through arguably his four best relievers, all pitching on back-to-backs, and lost anyway. It left essentially no relief ammo for the rest of the weekend, culminating with Dereck Rodriguez pitching four frames in extra innings as the team's season hung by a thread and gave way. Alas, while it's easy to get caught up in the early hooks and shortcomings on the mound, there's no doubt where the blame primarily lies for this team's downfall: an offense woefully unequipped to compete. This team was always built around the strength of its lineup, which has turned into a debilitating weakness here in the late stages of the season. Since the start of August the bullpen has largely been stabilized and the pitching has been fine overall (6th among AL teams in pitching WAR, 8th in ERA). Meanwhile, the offense has fizzled out during this span, ranking 11th in wOBA and 10th in runs scored. The last time the Twins notched double-digit runs in a contest was August 30th against Boston; since then they have averaged 3.4 runs per game, scoring more than four times in just four of 18. With production like that, a 6-12 record is about what you expect. No amount of savvy pitching management or bullpen string-pulling can overcome such a dearth of run scoring. Saturday night epitomized the team's inability to muster anything with the bats. In a grinding 15-inning affair, the Twins could not will themselves to victory despite receiving opportunity after opportunity. They managed only seven hits in 15 innings and went 3-for-21 with runners in scoring position before finally succumbing to their eighth consecutive loss against Cleveland. Astonishing ineptitude. Then again, it's pretty easy to see how we've gotten to this point. You look at their lineup on any given day and it's now filled with minor-leaguers, third-stringers, retreads. Jake Cave batting fifth. Jermaine Palacios drawing daily starts. Billy Hamilton receiving major league at-bats, in an ostensible pennant race. Even (especially?) with all the attrition, it'd be nice to see anyone stepping up other Carlos Correa, whose September surge continued with another excellent week (10-for-28, two homers, two doubles). The most conspicuous under-performer in the lineup at this point might be Luis Arraez, himself battling through a hamstring issue. He went 3-for-14 against Cleveland and is slashing .284/.316/.397 since appearing in the All-Star Game in July. Since the break, Arraez has been worth 0.4 fWAR (tying him with Cave) and he has the worst Win Probability of all position players other than Kyle Garlick, Kepler, and Palacios. Given that I ranked Arraez a month ago as the single most important player to the team's chances in the stretch run, his drop-off – while several others near the top of that list have gone down with injuries – tells the story of this team's downfall in a nutshell. TRENDING STORYLINE Following their flop in Cleveland, the Twins find themselves with about a 1% chance of making the postseason – and that's based merely on historical odds, not accounting for the fact that almost their entire team is injured while their rivals (especially the Guardians) are enjoying much better health. It's over. So what now? What are the focuses for these final three weeks? Aside from playing out the string, the Twins' motivation has been reduced to: Trying to finish with a record above .500. Play spoiler against the White Sox, who now trail Cleveland by 3 ½ games. Have a few injured players get back on the field and finish the season on relatively positive notes. Get a look at some young players to set them up for bigger impacts in 2023. Personally, only the latter two are all that meaningful to me. And in the case of injured players, I think they're probably better off just shutting down the likes of Buxton, Polanco, and Larnach with hopes of getting them as healthy as possible for next spring. With that said, I hope we'll get to see Wallner, Varland, Henriquez, and maybe even Simeon Woods Richardson take the spotlight here in this final stretch. For me, it'll be the only real draw. LOOKING AHEAD Good news for the Twins in their quest to finish above .500, I guess: they've got three more games ahead against Kansas City, who they've defeated in 12 of 16 matchups. Then they'll host the Angels, with a Shohei Ohtani start on the slate for Friday night to kick off the final homestand of the season. MONDAY, 9/19: TWINS @ GUARDIANS – RHP Sonny Gray v. RHP Cal Quantrill TUESDAY, 9/20: TWINS @ ROYALS – RHP Dylan Bundy v. RHP Zack Greinke WEDNESDAY, 9/21: TWINS @ ROYALS – TBD v. LHP Daniel Lynch THURSDAY, 9/22: TWINS @ ROYALS – RHP Josh Winder v. RHP Jonathan Heasley FRIDAY, 9/23: ANGELS @ TWINS – RHP Shohei Ohtani v. RHP Joe Ryan SATURDAY, 9/24: ANGELS @ TWINS – LHP Reid Detmers v. RHP Sonny Gray SUNDAY, 9/25: ANGELS @ TWINS – LHP Jose Suarez v. RHP Dylan Bundy
  26. 2022 Vikings Regular Season Thread

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    3 points
    This is one of the worst games Kirk Cousins has had in a Vikings uniform. The defense has been bad but they haven’t given up a point in the 2nd half. Kirk has thrown 3 terrible INTs and it could be more than that.
  27. 3 points
    My guess is that the FO was planning to contend this year if things broke their way, but were really looking to next year when they thought Winder/Canterino/Balazovic would be ready, Maeda would be back, and the young guys like Kirilloff, Lewis, Larnach and Miranda would have experience and settle into established roles. They figured to piece a bullpen together for the year, and hope Jax, Duran, Alcala, Stashak, etc. would get some experience and come back strong in 23. Then, when Correa fell in their lap, everyone's expectations, and theirs, changed. It is like they were caught between shifts in hockey, half in on this year and half out. When they performed well early, and the division looked weak, they tried to add at the deadline only to screw that up with an injured pitcher (Mahle) and a pitcher who returned to old ways (Lopez) providing no help. Then, of course, all the injuries. They still are not in bad shape for next year with a rotation of Gray, Mahle (hope shoulder is not sign of significant problems), Ryan, and Ober forming the start of a decent rotation, and IF Kirilloff, Lewis, Larnach and others come back healthy to add to Buxton for 100 games (and he is worth his salary), Miranda, Arraez, Polanco, maybe Wallner, etc to form a decent core. IF they add a top of the rotation type starter, catching help, and bullpen help they could make a run for it even if Cleveland and Chicago are better. I think Correa is out, and if so, they should have the money to make improvements.
  28. Can we talk about how bad Jorge Lopez has been? Since coming over he has literally been the same guy Baltimore gave up on as a starter, except now he's imploding from the pen. From an opposing fan perspective the hissy fits on the mound have to be hilarious, from a Twins fan perspective they're also hilarious, but in a sad kind of way. Are we still happy/comfortable with him being locked into a pen spot next year? Yeesh....
  29. Thank you Twins for giving us some good baseball. IMO we had the players & could have won it but nevertheless thank you. Gordon has proved himself again by pruducing runs when we needed them. Now we can bring up some young players, let them play and see what they can do. Go Twins
  30. 3 points
    Cant win many games when you have a sub par closer, your starting 3 OF's and 3 backups are injured. Call up your explosive #1 prospect and he gets injured. Lose your #1 catcher, along with every pitcher hit the IL at least once. Your team will never mesh with this many injuries and players moving back and forth. We need a better conditioning/injury prevention group. We also had some bad luck on how some of these injuries took place. Just a rough year of injuries to recover from is all.
  31. I have now given up on this season. I was a holdout and I give up.
  32. "Pagan-esque". Love the term! So definitive!
  33. Lopez, Leon, paddack, pagan….sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make. Utter disasters, all of them
  34. 3 points
    We got a stolen base!
  35. Great article. The Twins FO approach to this offseason reminded me of those kids in high school who slack off for 90% of the term and then start doing extra credit like crazy in the final week. In their haste, they made a number of faulty assumptions: 1) Buxton will remain relatively healthy. 2) The farm system pitching pipeline was ready to flow. 3) Correa's glove and bat would patch any defensive/offensive holes in the infield and lineup. 4) Bullpens are easy to cobble together on the fly. None of those assumptions were true. They let Pagan completely sink the season, acting on the idea that any additional moves they would make at the deadline would carry the team through to a division title in the weak AL Central - or at least a WC spot in an expanded playoff field. Nope. Buxton's detractors were sadly right - he isn't durable enough to warrant the new contract. The pitching pipeline completely dried up, reminding us all what national baseball writers had said in the offseason: Twins pitching scouting and development is nothing special. Correa is a player who feeds on intensity, and he found nothing after May here to build upon in terms of energy. And the bullpen implosions continued, straight out of 2021. Somehow, this organization turned once-strong relievers and closers like Colome, Pagan and Lopez into new versions of Ron Davis. I gotta say, 2021 was far easier to stomach than 2022. This division was wide open for the taking this year. Instead, the Twins experienced another total system failure, bouncing them from first to third when everything mattered most. The FO seems to think they did their best with a reload this year. If so, I'd hate to see their worst attempt.
  36. More like "Lack of Developments"... amirite? ?
  37. There was someone in the medical profession that posted on TD in another thread - the last thing they want to do is put someone under the knife. So that's why they tried everything else first.
  38. I was referring more to the people claiming the Twins had "given up" after they lost the last couple games. That must be why Joe Ryan gave up hits in this game, he's quit on his team. If he was really trying he would have thrown 7 more hitless innings. According to most posters here you can tell pretty easily when the Twins have given up. When they lose it was because they weren't trying (mostly due to Rocco's uninspiring leadership). When they win it was because they had passion for the game that day (despite Rocco's uninspiring leadership, of course). The Twins aren't going to win the division this season but it isn't for lack of trying.
  39. Ryan goes 7 twice in a row? I'm sure Rocco had to make sure his arm was still attached! Again it shows that guys can get through the 3rd time facing a lineup. I'm a firm believer that they should be given a chance to try, if they still look strong and the pitch count is still under control!
  40. Nick Gordon is better than Acuna this year, just sayin'
  41. Nothing left for me to look forward to this season except going to see Shohei Ohtani.
  42. We seem to be able to put things in play for a change. Half way back to a tie game.
  43. Considering the only teams still playing are AA and AAA, amazing that we are talking about two players from this year's draft having great games. I remain so hopeful that Lee is that special player. Sure seems to be with a 3 hit game in what, his second AA game? And I don't know what to think about Shuffield? Don't understand what he is doing at AAA and why he is hitting as well as he is? If this is who he is, what the heck was he doing not getting drafted until the 10th round?
  44. I thought at the beginning of the season there was a legitimate chance that all three would be helping the major league club. Martin's OBP skills and stolen base ability could be very helpful to the Twins as soon as next year despite his struggles this year. With Buxton's injury issues, and so many left handed corner OFs, it would figure that Martin could get lots of playing time in the outfield. Balazovic has pitched much better his last couple of starts and the ability is there. I would hope that next April he will be going 6-7 innings regularly for the Saints and be in a Twins uniform prior to the All-Star break. I guess we'll have to wait and see on Canterino. While I won't criticize anyone for trying to avoid surgery, it seems the Twins have gambled and lost too often in the last couple years.
  45. With minor league starters dropping like flies I have to wonder about their approach to developing pitchers. In fact given the mountain of injuries on the big league club, resulting in a majority minor league lineup in a series they had to win, it makes you wonder about the entire medical staff’s handling of injuries.
  46. I'm too depressed to comment.
  47. Week in Review: Hope Sinks

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    Nick, I appreciate both the content of the article and its presentation. Highly professional writing, which is not always the case on this (or any) blog.
  48. Ryan has earned the right to pitch late into games, hopefully Rocco or whoever is manager next season let's home do it consistently.
  49. I bet there is at least an unwritten rule saying a team can't send two players at a premium position. There are four other teams sending players to Glendale and only so many innings for the catchers to share.
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