Prospect Retrospective: Gilberto Celestino

Celestino polished? Horrible decisions, horrible execution, and horrible routes. I don't even care what he looks like at the plate. Playing the field is not pitching based.  

I saw the first two games. If that is polished, the Twins are in more trouble than I thought. 

You are reading a report from when he signed as a 16 year old... Hopefully it's just nerves from being called up and/or only having played for a month after not playing last year but you cannot write off a prospect after only 2 games. Mike Trout absolutely SUCKED his first month that he was called up. 

10 minutes ago, Seansy said:

You are reading a report from when he signed as a 16 year old... Hopefully it's just nerves from being called up and/or only having played for a month after not playing last year but you cannot write off a prospect after only 2 games. Mike Trout absolutely SUCKED his first month that he was called up. 

Well, you would think that polish would have gotten some shine IN SIX YEARS!

If it's not fair to compare others to Trout for the upper end of performance, then is it fair to compare at all?

Give him 2 weeks and then evaluate

39 minutes ago, Seth Stohs said:

My assumption is that he will be up until Refsnyder comes back in 4-5 days. They'll probably send him to St. Paul, though I'm sure they'd prefer to send him back to Wichita, which is where he should be. He's young. And yes, definitely, he's very good even if we haven't seen that so far. Definitely can't evaluate based on first few games, especially for a guy who is up because of 40-man rules and CF injury situation. He's got potential, but they didn't call him up because he's ready. They know that. 

We are conditioned to be so apologetic it seems. The thing is, the decisions he has made, the lackadaisical throw after the horrible catch he blew that Larnach was sitting on..... these are things that AT ANY LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL YOU DON'T DO.  It has nothing to do with being ready for MLB, like at the plate and being able to hit MLB pitching. The gaffs he is coming up with shouldn't be done at amateur levels. I would like to think even by the end of little league.

That being said...... I hope he can become something. With the way this season has progressed, I have little sympathy left. 

Kid belongs in AA.  Hopefully he will be back there asap.  There is no question, however, that his brief stay with the Twins should be invaluable as far as learning how difficult it is in MLB and his hunger to want to return.

Same can be said about Rortvedt, although he probably belongs in St. Paul.

Catching a fly ball and throwing it TO the infielder is not that tough. 

12 hours ago, Seth Stohs said:

My assumption is that he will be up until Refsnyder comes back in 4-5 days. They'll probably send him to St. Paul, though I'm sure they'd prefer to send him back to Wichita, which is where he should be. He's young. And yes, definitely, he's very good even if we haven't seen that so far. Definitely can't evaluate based on first few games, especially for a guy who is up because of 40-man rules and CF injury situation. He's got potential, but they didn't call him up because he's ready. They know that. 

Seth------I agree 100%.......I like Celestino's potential as a future everyday CF for Twins, but thats not until 2022 or 2023.  Although it was VERY early in season--games #2 and #3--May 5 and 6,  I personally witnessed Celestino struggle against less than overpowering pitchers from Springfield.  He went 0-7 over the games I attended with 5 K's.  His defense--other than the HORRIBLE 2 error play the other night in KC-----is far ahead of his bat.  Although Broxton has struggled all season as everyday CF for Saints, I agree that Celestino needs to be pushed back to Wichita to get his bat going.  In his most recent games there--before being promoted to AAA, he had brought his average up to .250 and hit a walkoff solo HR.

13 hours ago, h2oface said:

We are conditioned to be so apologetic it seems. The thing is, the decisions he has made, the lackadaisical throw after the horrible catch he blew that Larnach was sitting on..... these are things that AT ANY LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL YOU DON'T DO.  It has nothing to do with being ready for MLB, like at the plate and being able to hit MLB pitching. The gaffs he is coming up with shouldn't be done at amateur levels. I would like to think even by the end of little league.

That being said...... I hope he can become something. With the way this season has progressed, I have little sympathy left. 

Some people are “conditioned” to see what could be in a player, some people are conditioned to see what the player is not. Considering that the team is down to the fifth or sixth option in CF, cutting some slack to the current CF option would seem reasonable. Some are not “conditioned” to do that.