Article: Pelfrey & Baker: A Study in Arm Resilience

[The Wise One]

Wise One, you seem to agree with me whether you can see it or not. Your second sentence is exactly what I'm saying. You sign someone because of what you think they bring to the table and then judge your results based on those assumptions. In fact you continuously reference the knowledge base at the time the decision was made when you use the words "validate your judgement" and "meet your expectations".

 

As for Privacy Laws, it is impossible for me to know that which I cannot know, therefore I can only base my opinions upon that which is known to me. So, as I've asked you many times before, please help us understand the inside workings of the Twins decisions so that we too may benefit from their knowledge. Until you do however I can only base my opinions on my current knowledge.

 

What would the Twin's expectations on Baker be? I can only quess they thought given his history that it would take most of the year to recover. I believe that is why they wanted the second year option. What was the expectation on Pelfrey. It is not unreasonable to think how the season played out for him was what you would expect. A rocky start, a decent middle and run out of gas. WAR is a useless number when it comes to assessing that.

 

"A signing is either good or bad based upon what was known before the signing occured, not because of what happened after." Is not at all like what I said as I said the basis for judgement is the performance after the signing meeting what you thought it would.

[twinsfaninsaudi]

I dont blame the Twins FO one bit for thinking it was all in Baker's head. There always seemed to be something ailing Baker's arm, and the organization had grown tired of it. Baker may have better stuff than Pelfrey, but I'll take Pelfrey any day over Baker. He's durable. He's a gamer. He's not whiny and wimpy. And it seemed any time Baker got his pitch count in the 90's, his whole body language changed. Afterall, once you get close to 100, you're supposed to be tired, right? Classic new age "6 innings and I've done my job" pitcher.

 

Ditto.

[twinsfaninsaudi]

Baker career: 6.03 innings per start

 

Pelfrey career: 5.89 innings per start

 

Pinch hitting in the NL

[nicksaviking]

Pinch hitting in the NL

 

If you're getting pinch hit for before the 6th inning, you were almost certainly pitching terribly to begin with.

[Brock Beauchamp]

If you're getting pinch hit for before the 6th inning, you were almost certainly pitching terribly to begin with.

 

Yep. Not to mention that every ninth batter in the NL is a free out (particularly in the first five innings), whereas that same ninth batter in the AL is probably a top three hitter in that lineup.