Any idea what kind of compensation pick the Vikings will get if Jared Allen signs elsewhere? How about Everson Griffen?

Comp picks usually aren't more than late 4th rounders for top guys.

I thought I read that the comp for Allen would likely be a 5th.

I think it was a 3rd rounder for Allen, that is why the Vikes weren't able to trade him at the deadline (since nobody would give up more than that for him)

Here's the article I was thinking of.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/29/vikings-wouldnt-get-a-third-round-compensatory-pick-for-jared-allen/

The rules are quite obscure....but remember, the pick comes at the end of whatever round you hear, so it is really a pick in the next round......

 

This is where I go to talk Vikings and the draft:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=24

So, current draft order has the Vikings 4.

 

1. Texans

2. Rams (via Washington)

3. Falcons

4. Vikings

5. Raiders

6. Jaguars

7. Browns

8. Bills

9. Buccaneers

 

Currently, assuming the same order, you would figure on Teddy Bridgewater #1, then Jake Matthews or another OL is a big possibility at #2, then the Falcons will want OL or anyone they could find on defense. It is feasible that the Vikings could see Jadeveon Clowney fall to them at #4!

someone will trade up. The Vikings are doing whatever they can to make sure they won't be able to get that franchise QB.

Vikings should be at #3 after this weekend since Washington plays Atlanta. Even at #4, if Houston passes on Bridgewater (not impossible) and nobody trades up, he wears the Purple in 2014. The draft boasts multiple franchise QBs, but who will they be? Too bad Mariota didn't declare. Carr is a strong candidate, but probably not top 3 when there will be at least one of the defensive studs sitting on the board. I'd be happy with Clowney or Barr. They may still get a decent QB prospect early in round 2 (risky) or trade back into round 1. Don't see much indication they plan on giving Freeman a shot next year, but maybe they roll the dice if the draft doesn't cooperate.

Let's hope they keep losing.

From what I read, Bridgewater is falling, but now that they've won, I doubt they have a shot at him or Carr. At this point, I'd just as soon take the best CB (or LB is they switch to a 3-4), use Cassel for a year or so, and draft a project type QB (I think this is what I'd do).

I hope a 3-4 switch is in the future. The NFL is becoming less and less of a running league, I'd rather swap out one of the big guys for another athlete on the field.

I enjoy seeing the Vikes win. The crazy thing about this season is...its incredible how many close games they lost inside of 2 minutes. If they had any sort of legit QB play throughout this year they win the division easily (even with a poor defense, that has actually been looking better)

 

Assuming they get a 8-10 draft slot, maybe the move is to trade down a few picks, grab Johnny Football and load up on defense the rest of the way. Keep Cassel around as a one year stop gap and let Manziel or whoever else they grab get some time to learn the league.

 

The other thing they could do is the classic Vikings move and bring in a veteran to hold down fort for a year or two til the rookie is ready. Michael Vick, Cutler and possibly others could be available.

The offense is number 8 in points scored....

The defense is the 2nd worst in points allowed.....

 

the problem is not the QB, though the QB play has been bad, that is not the problem at all.

In this league any degree of subpar QB play is a huge problem.

The defense is clearly a huge problem and can be addressed after the first round. Good defenders at any position don't impact defenses like good QBs impact offenses. Although immediate success from a rookie signal caller happens rarely outside the "can't miss" prospects, QB should be top priority. But I don't want to see them reaching either when there are so many holes to fill. If Carr, Bortles, or Hundley is on the board at #8, they will have a tough decision. I like Cassel over Ponder, but he is still in the bottom 10 starters. A team this far from making a legitimate run doesn't need a stopgap behind center today if they can draft a leader who can grow on a team going nowhere in the near future.

I just hope the Vikings stay away from a running QB and get a pocket passer.

if the vikes reach for another 4th round QB (ponder) with a top 1st round pick (carr) they need to fire spielman!! we need to take best DB available i.e. dennard, gilbert, dix.

Carr shouldn't go in the first round at all.

Would be nice to see Bortles or Bridgewater fall to #8 but not counting on it. Thankfully, I'm seeing few mock drafts these days linking the Vikings and Carr. Think they could trade up in the second round and get him. There will be some solid options at #8 even with the top QBs gone, particularly on the defensive side. The one good thing about having needs pretty much everywhere is the top talent available to choose from is very likely to fill a hole.