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It seems that spot is for a (and apparently the only​) free agent to be signed. It won't be used on a Rule V castoff (er pickup).

 

Mod note: Can we maybe temper some of this over-the-top rhetoric and hyperbole that I am seeing thread to thread? While I do understand the history we have with signings, and have my own skeptical opinions, let's just keep it in check until the off-season unfolds a bit more and we have some real facts and actualities to complain about. These type of comments only inflame and do nothing to add to the discussions at hand. Thanks.

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Not true. You need an open spot on the 40-man if you do wish to explore a Rule 5 draftee. When the time comes, the Twins may not add a Rule 5 player. Then they have a roster spot open, if need be, for a free agent signing, as anyone else in their system doesn't need to be added to the 40-man unless brought up during the season, or next year.

 

The Twins will sign a lot of minor league free agents now, too, once rosters have finally been cleared of old 40-man chaff. No need to add any of these minor league guys to the major league 40-man.

 

And if the Twins do sign multiple free agents, they need to have players on their current 40-man that they can move (these four players cannot be removed until towards the end of spring training, unless involved in a trade). And we know they have lots of names here, from Albers and Hendriks and newly acquired Johnson, to Fryer and Herrmann, not to mention Colabello or Pramelee, and probably Mastro. Any of these pieces can be moved if a corresponding free agent is signed to take their place for the next year or two, as there is mroe than enough talent in the wings to take their places in 2015 and beyond.

 

It is always fun to see what players are taken in the Rule 5. But overall, it is usually the 26th or 41st player on not only your roster, but the other team's, too.

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I hope we take a pure starter. I haven't seen any lists yet. I know these don't just float around on the Rule 5, but if someone left exposed a Low A starter with good peripherals I'd love for us to take a stab at him. If spring training comes and he is super over matched, send him back or try and work out a trade. The price is right to give it a try.

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Simply because I'm sick of the negativity, I'm going to add some positivity to this.

 

We had a good rule five pick last year (Pressley ... spelled correctly?) that stuck and appears will stick again from what I've read. Even if Diamond ends up just having one good season, he was a good selection and we won that trade with the Braves to keep him. Johan Santana was the pick of all picks. Shane Mack was decent. We've had luck here.

 

I think going forward, the rule five draft could be a staple for gaining relief pitchers. Teams are going to see what the Twins had last year and might copy if for the last pen spot on their roster. If my memory serves me right (and I haven't looked it up), the very first pick last year by the Astros stuck all season with them and did okay (I think he was injured during the year).

 

I don't know a lot of names up for selection this year, but I think they should shy away from starting pitching if they take someone. Not a lot of starting pitchers are good enough to make the year.

 

As for the DeRosa question, he retired if I remember reading it correctly.

 

Maybe Seth knows some good prospects from other organizations that are available for the draft? That could be a great topic to have him on for a future Gleeman and the Geek!

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prosportsdaily.com had an article today about some players that were left available for the draft. My favorite on their list was:

 

Boone Whiting, rhp, Cardinals: Smallish at 6-foot-1, 175 pounds, Whiting is a fly-ball pitcher who lacks plane on his fastball and doesn’t overpower hitters. His competitiveness, command, athleticism and feel for three average pitches helps him miss bats, as he has a career 9.31 SO/9 IP ratio. Whiting’s fastball sits in the 88-92 mph range and touches 93, and he locates it well. His changeup earns some above-average grades and is his best pitch. He throws a slurvy slider as well, and all three come out of the same over-the-top high arm slot, giving him deception. Whiting was homer-prone in Triple-A, giving up 11 in 106 innings, and profiles as no more than a fifth starter, but he’s close to that ceiling now. In Prospect Handbook terms, he’s a 40/Low.

 

I have said previously that I hope we give a shot to someone who can land in the rotation. If he shows promise, try to make room in the pen or try and work out a trade. If he seems decent and there is room (I hope not) he could potentially start in the rotation. If he is terrible, offer him back. We wouldn't be out much money.

 

The full article is here: http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?845338-2013-Rule-V-Draft&p=27453449

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JJ Cooper of Baseball America has a post on some Rule 5 players of interest. I know nothing of any of them, but just based on Cooper's summaries, Marcus Hatley of the Cubs looks a little interesting to me.

 

Link: http://ht.ly/r3OJl

 

Hatley would seem like a guy that could survive a season in the bullpen. There are several arms that appear to be capable of mop-up duties. I would like us to consider a guy that could start, or at the least, be a Pressly with the option of converting him back to a starter.

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Yeah, didn't see any Twins on Cooper's list. Let's see, in the last decade plus, since the Twins swapped out Jared Camp for Johan Santana, they have grabbed such names as: Brandon Knight, Jose Morban, Ryan Rowland-Smith, Jason Pridie, Alejandro Machado, Jason Jones, Scott Diamond, Terry Doyle, Erik Komatsu (when another team dropped him mid-season) and Ryan Pressley.

 

What's more interesting is the people drafted from the Twins: LeVale Speigner, Kevin Cameron, Garrett Guzman, Tim Lahey, R.A. Dickey, Jose Lugo.

 

That's 14 years of Rule 5...not counting minor league guys of minor significance.

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Just because I haven't see it posted here, Berardino gives the following Twins as exposed to the Rule V draft:

 

Among those left exposed to the Rule 5 draft on Dec. 12 are right-handed pitchers Alex Wimmers (2010 first-round pick), A.J. Achter, Dakota Watts, B.J. Hermsen and Matt Hauser; lefty Pat Dean; catcher Dan Rohlfing; third baseman Deibinson Romero; infielder James Beresford, and outfielders Evan Bigley, Angel Morales, Danny Ortiz and Mike Kvasnicka. Wimmers signed for $1.332 million but underwent a procedure six weeks ago to compress the radial nerve in his pitching elbow.

 

http://www.twincities.com/twins/ci_24564954/twins-chris-herrmann-sent-home-from-winter-league

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