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  Top Gun said:

Don't you forget Delmon had a 2 run homer and is batting .300 He is better than any ofer the Twins have and they gave him away for notting!

exactly, his defense is terrible, but don't we have bad d already. Wish we could have gotten something for him..

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Hawk Harrelson, as terrible as he is always, was pretty funny in his enthusiasm on that play. I still don't understand how that team doesn't just trade Ryan Rayburn (and they could get some value back) to solve some of this problem.

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Delmon started 35 games as the Bucs cfer and played 162 games the next season.He is now only 26years old,

Gardy never ever gave him full playing time or bat at the top of the lineup. The Twins will regret this one!

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He did get full playing time and he fizzled out after having one strong year. He has no concept of what to do with his talent. This could have all been different if the RAYS did not push him through the minors so quickly.

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I think I've defended Delmon more than jusst about anyone - even wrote a multi-part series on him - but he got every opportunity he needed. He just didn't perform, except for 2010. To this day, I don't understand why it didn't work, but it didn't. And the Twins traded him away because they weren't going to offer him arbitration and the shouldn't have offered him arbitration.

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  Top Gun said:

Don't you forget Delmon had a 2 run homer and is batting .300 He is better than any ofer the Twins have and they gave him away for notting!

Maybe I'm misreading you because of the typo, but if not, this is just plain wrong. Willingham is batting .333 and has more HRs than Delmon thus far this year. His defense may be only marginally better (he's got a cannon arm), but he's been a better hitter this year and over his career, particularly in OBP, SLP, and OPS:

Willingham: http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425545#gameType='R'&sectionType=career&statType=1&season=2012&level='ALL'

Delmon: http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=430321#gameType='R'&sectionType=career&statType=1&season=2012&level='ALL'

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  Top Gun said:

The Twins could of had Longoria instead of Young and Harris for Garza & Bartlett, but Punto was Gardy's pet and could play ss & 3b. See how well that worked out.

I don't buy that. Longoria was already a known prospect who hadn't had any trouble roughing up minor league umpires. No way the Rays were dangling Longoria for anyone.

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Willingham replaced Cuddyer. Willingham did not replace Cuddyer and Delmon. If you want to compare Willingham's stats with Delmon's, fine, but then you need to come up with a different replacement for Cuddyer's numbers.

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Friday was a disaster in the field for Delmon. He looked better on Saturday and Sunday.

 

Delmon looked positively svelte when they showed a side-by-side of him and Prince Fielder (Prince on 3rd, DY on 2nd). But what was up with the 2 HBP and the walk the other day? Positively un-Delmonlike.

 

Oh, and the Tigers had some definite RISP problems during the Chicago series. Stranded an awful-lot of guys.

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Mastroianni had a quote during Spring, contrasting the Twins camp to Toronto's, saying that if he made a play like that for Toronto he would get reamed (his word) for it, while Gardy told him quietly in the dugout "let's keep the 360's to a minimum, OK?" Wonder if Gardy was that circumspect with Delmon, though.

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Picking on Delmon for his defense is not fair, it is like picking on Drew Butera for his offense, Matt LeCroy for his speed or me for my spelling. Defense is something Delmon has to do, not something he wants to do when you have a team of Rivals for the DH position. I don't understand the cult of Delmon, maybe it will click for him and he will take off like it did for Big Papi. (But they test more now then they did when David started to stay healthy and go the other way off the Green Monster. I don't know of a injection for your glove.) What Delmon needs is the old Matt Lawton supersized glove, you know the one that looks like the big camping chair in Menards. It won't help route running and instincts he has yet to pick up after 15 plus years of playing organized baseball, but he could be able to swipe at the ball and maybe knock it down so it will not roll to the fence quite as often, thus saving his legs for his next at bat.

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  John Bonnes said:

So you would have paid him $6.375M this offseason? That essentially means swapping Delmon for Willingham.

Not exactly... Willingham was Cuddyer's replacement. Delmon has not been replaced

 

I'd keep him as a starting RF or DH (where he belongs) and if the money was an issue I would have not signed Marquis and would have found a better alternative than Capps for half the money. That would make the $ about equal.

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Yeah, let's make fun of Delmon some more! It's obvious that the Tigers made a bad move in acquiring him and his...

 

...wait, .380 on-base percentage?

 

Oh, but his poor fielding has to be costing Detroit ballgames and...

 

...they're 6-3 and leading the division?

 

Oh.

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