Would Dozier Clear Waivers?

[mudcat14]

Curious, because the Braves are said to be on the lookout for a 2Bman with Uggla out of action. Even with his subpar batting average, I think Brian's play of late may have his value at it's premium and the Braves are usually flush with young arms. Even if we need to wait another year for Rosario to be ready, Escobar or a one year pick-up wouldn't be that bad to bridge the gap at 2nd in 2014.

[tcarlic]

I would suspect that a team would claim him just to block him from getting to the Braves. Who would you target in a trade from ATL?

[Mr. Brooks]

Dozier is a 26 year old middle infielder with a 2.2 WAR making the league minimum. He would be claimed by about 15-20 teams.

[twinsnorth49]

Dozier is a 26 year old middle infielder with a 2.2 WAR making the league minimum. He would be claimed by about 15-20 teams.

 

This

[howieramone1406390264]

I don't think it's an automatic that Rosario will beat out Dozier. Also, I just read somewhere where Ryan said Rosario projects at every position. No idea what he meant by that. The Twins will deal blocked prospects and have vets to trade who were simply beat out by better players, but I don't believe that time has come.

[Mookie]

Is Dozier in the waivers list?

[DaveW]

Every team would claim dozier...

[diehardtwinsfan]

I highly doubt he'd clear waivers.

 

I think the other problem is that he wouldn't bring back what we'd want. He was pretty abysmal at the plate for the first two months of the season and pretty bad last year, and I think a wise GM is going to recognize this and discount it. His value will likely peak if he continues this into next year. With Rosario knocking at the door at this point, we can either move him to short or trade him for a nice haul. I don't see that happening this month.

[Rosterman]

Any team would grab him to at least replace a sub-par utility middle infielder.

[Danchat]

The Astros would claim him first in a heartbeat. He'd instantly bat 3rd in their lineup.

 

Dozier does not have a big contract like someone like Uggla does, so every team would claim him through waivers.

[diehardtwinsfan]

Is Dozier in the waivers list?

 

Probably. Just about everyone gets put on it at one point in August.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

I highly doubt he'd clear waivers.

 

I think the other problem is that he wouldn't bring back what we'd want. He was pretty abysmal at the plate for the first two months of the season and pretty bad last year, and I think a wise GM is going to recognize this and discount it. His value will likely peak if he continues this into next year. With Rosario knocking at the door at this point, we can either move him to short or trade him for a nice haul. I don't see that happening this month.

If Parker broke it down that succinctly, so can every GM. Obviously not enough ABs to provide certainty, but enough to show repeatable results as Parker did. I think the return on Dozier would be good, but not blow you away.

 

agreed, he would never clear.

 

With rosario on the roter, he's more valuable as utility/Ss

[DaveW]

I love we have a solid young in house MI for te first time in a decade and people wanna trade him

[TheLeviathan]

I love we have a solid young in house MI for te first time in a decade and people wanna trade him

 

I agree, we should have cut him in May and avoided this whole thing, right Dave my boy?

 

[beckmt]

I think we should send him through waivers and see who claims him and what they want to pay. We can always pull him back. Any player that can bring back projectable starting pitching should be available for trade as an option.

[diehardtwinsfan]

I love we have a solid young in house MI for te first time in a decade and people wanna trade him

 

Most of the trade speculation (in my opinion) should be what to do if Dozier is for real and Rosario is ready. You have 2B. Personally, I'd probably move Dozier back to SS, but I get the impression from some that this ship has sailed already. If it has, we have the luxury of having 2 quality 2B. I would think that ones value would be wasted as a backup. You'd have to trade one of them. Might not happen until next offseason.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

If Parker broke it down that succinctly, so can every GM. Obviously not enough ABs to provide certainty, but enough to show repeatable results as Parker did. I think the return on Dozier would be good, but not blow you away.

 

agreed, he would never clear.

 

With rosario on the roter, he's more valuable as utility/Ss

 

To clarify, I don't think we should trade him, Rosario is still an unknown, and even if Rosario is the best 2b of all time, I think Dozier should be kept. I think he can play SS at lest well enough to be utility infielder. What makes me think this is his improvement at 2b over the last season and a half tells me he can go back to his natural position an relearn that as well.

[Mr. Brooks]

I love we have a solid young in house MI for te first time in a decade and people wanna trade him

 

Didn't you say you had given up on him earlier this year?

Maybe that was someone else, sorry if it was.

[Jdosen]

Everyone wants to crown Dozier the answer after about 3 good months. Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited about the progress he has made, but I don't think we need to worry about having a logjam at 2B just yet. I need to see more from Dozier before I proclaim him the 2B for the next 5 years, and I would need Rosario to be much more of a sure thing before I would trade a young, cheap good player who has 5 more years of team control just to make way for him. Odds are, this situation works itself out, and if not, then we have quite a valuable trade piece, but we aren't there yet.

[DaveW]

Didn't you say you had given up on him earlier this year?

Maybe that was someone else, sorry if it was.

 

Yeah, but obviously my opinion changed. Is that allowed?

[ThePuck]

Look, it's not like Dozier has been in the league for five years, performed weakly, and is just now having a good run. He doesn't even have 200 MLB games under his belt yet. It takes some time to adjust for most major leaguers when first entering the league.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Look, it's not like Dozier has been in the league for five years, performed weakly, and is just now having a good run. He doesn't even have 200 MLB games under his belt yet. It takes some time to adjust for most major leaguers when first entering the league.

 

Particularly when the guy was just not that good a prospect. We can't expect the B-/C+ prospects to come into the league and hit like Mike Trout... It's completely unreasonable.

[ThePuck]

Yeah, but obviously my opinion changed. Is that allowed?

 

Nope, you have to stick to your original opinion, no matter what changes. If, on the off chance, one does try that, they need to hold a press conference and give the whole mea culpa bit and let those who knew better 10 minutes to say I told you so :-)

[old nurse]

Yeah, but obviously my opinion changed. Is that allowed?

 

No, that way when someone wants to dismiss your opinion they can just say" Yeah but you were the one who wanted to get rid if Dozier" rather than come up with a rebuttal.

[Mr. Brooks]

No, that way when someone wants to dismiss your opinion they can just say" Yeah but you were the one who wanted to get rid if Dozier" rather than come up with a rebuttal.

 

Why would I wan't to dismiss his opinion, it's an opinion I share.

 

I just find it funny that a guy goes from saying a player is junk, a waste of a spot, will never be anything, and should be cut, to suddenly preaching to others about their opinion on the topic within a span of 90 days.

[DaveW]

No, that way when someone wants to dismiss your opinion they can just say" Yeah but you were the one who wanted to get rid if Dozier" rather than come up with a rebuttal.

Haha. Also in my defense, over a month ago I believe I started an entire thread about how I was wrong about the kid.

[DaveW]

Why would I wan't to dismiss his opinion, it's an opinion I share.

 

I just find it funny that a guy goes from saying a player is junk, a waste of a spot, will never be anything, and should be cut, to suddenly preaching to others about their opinion on the topic within a span of 90 days.

I said, the Twins haven't had a legit in house MI option in...well... a decade? Why on earth would we suddenly want to trade the one guy we finally found? Even with Rosario our MI depth in the minors is, average at best.

 

If this was Hicks doing well, then sure, maybe the argument could be made since we have plenty of OF depth, but trading away MI depth is about the last thing this team should be doing (unless by some miracle you end up with a front end SP type guy for Dozier)

 

Also the idea of this thread of Dozier clearing waivers is preposterous. He would be claimed instantly.

[Mr. Brooks]

I said, the Twins haven't had a legit in house MI option in...well... a decade? Why on earth would we suddenly want to trade the one guy we finally found? Even with Rosario our MI depth in the minors is, average at best.

 

If this was Hicks doing well, then sure, maybe the argument could be made since we have plenty of OF depth, but trading away MI depth is about the last thing this team should be doing (unless by some miracle you end up with a front end SP type guy for Dozier)

 

Also the idea of this thread of Dozier clearing waivers is preposterous. He would be claimed instantly.

 

I know, like I said, I agree with you there.

 

I respect the fact that you were able to admit you were wrong in your initial opinion of Dozier, that is hard to do.

I didn't mean to pile on, we all make predictions that go south on us, so I'm sorry about that.

[LaBombo]

Haha. Also in my defense, over a month ago I believe I started an entire thread about how I was wrong about the kid.

If you reread the terms of use agreement that you carefully pored over years ago before you clicked on the 'sure, whatever' button, there's an opinion reversal buyout option you may have forgotten about that expunges any wrong opinions... for a price.

 

Good news is that proceeds go toward covering TD bigwig farm team junke...I mean road tri.... actually, they're carefully planned research missions to evaluate Twins minor league talent.

 

So they disappear your previous opinion and use the money to bring us even more up-to-the-minute info on whether Rosario will be able to stick at second. It's win/win! Take it from someone whose Lew Ford ASG appearance prediction...never happened.

[jimbo92107]

He'd be claimed within five minutes. Guy has turned himself into an excellent 2B, and his hitting has made a quantum leap. Brian Dozier right now is what every team wants, except the Yankees.