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OMG, as a non-beerdrinker, the title of this thread brought to mind a lot different image.

 

I imagine there will be a lot of Twins fans on the "Surly bandwagon" this season. Hasn't taken long for the Twins to send them there.

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The price is good when you compare it to the same size Bud Light, however be prepared for a wait. Yesterday the line was about 2 sections long shortly before first pitch. The stand is somewhere around section 125 for those that are in search of it. I imagine that if the lines persist they will find a way to add another cart.

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$7.75 a cup, only $0.50 more than a Bud. Unfortunately, as an employee at Target Field, I may never get to taste it

$7.75 isn't that bad for craft beer at a baseball game. Surly is generally $5 to $6 at many bars anyway.
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Long lines are going to continue to be a theme unless they make some changes at some point this year.

Long lines, this year, at Target Field.

 

 

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It's an IPA. Yick. I suppose it's similar to Surly Furious which is OK.

Not an IPA fan? I'm a total sucker for every beer they make, I have to get my hands on all of their limited run and anniversary beers every year. Don't live in the metro area so unfortunately I miss out on quite a few of their limited run taps at the bars. If bandwagon is anything like furious it should be great.

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98% of all beer from a can is terrible.

Sorry, but that is a poor blanket statement to make. Whether a beer is in a brown glass bottle or can, the taste of the beer does not change*, any difference is a misconception. There is no metallic taste from a can, contrary to popular belief. *The only difference is that a can lets no light in and a brown bottle lets in a small amount of light, which can damage a beer's taste because it reacts with the different chemical compounds in the beer and alters the taste of them. In this way a can is a better packaging than glass. I will also add, that if you are making the distinction between beer from a can and beer on draft, all beer on draft is in a keg, which is essentially a very large stainless can.

 

I just want defend against this common misconception and let you know that canned beer is not a bad thing. Now if you are saying this because the vast majority of canned beer is "triple hops brewed," pulled by clydesdales, and cold brewed; then that is a different argument all together.

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Sorry, but that is a poor blanket statement to make. Whether a beer is in a brown glass bottle or can, the taste of the beer does not change*, any difference is a misconception. There is no metallic taste from a can, contrary to popular belief. *The only difference is that a can lets no light in and a brown bottle lets in a small amount of light, which can damage a beer's taste because it reacts with the different chemical compounds in the beer and alters the taste of them. In this way a can is a better packaging than glass. I will also add, that if you are making the distinction between beer from a can and beer on draft, all beer on draft is in a keg, which is essentially a very large stainless can.

 

I just want defend against this common misconception and let you know that canned beer is not a bad thing. Now if you are saying this because the vast majority of canned beer is "triple hops brewed," pulled by clydesdales, and cold brewed; then that is a different argument all together.

Nice first post, kpark. You're 100% correct. I wish Target Field would do more with canned beers, since they're very consumer friendly. In addition to Surly, they should be stocking Dale's Pale Ale (if you haven't tried it, you're in for a treat), and, dream beer: Paulaner Hefeweizen. Yes, they're now selling it in cans, and it's darn good (though European canning uses a liter scale, so the can is only 11.4 oz.).

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Fair enough, I just didn't want people to take your comment the wrong way.

 

Oskar Blue is a very nice brewery, I really enjoyed their Pilsner, but not available in MN yet. I would imagine that they would go for more MN made beers in the near future over beers from other states, just to show support for local breweries and give Target Field a uniqueness factor.

 

I will say that I think the exclusive beer from Surly for Target Field is a really cool touch and am excited to try it when I go the game tonight. Is it sad that I'm just as excited to try the beer as I am to watch the Twins?

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Sorry, but that is a poor blanket statement to make. Whether a beer is in a brown glass bottle or can, the taste of the beer does not change*, any difference is a misconception. There is no metallic taste from a can, contrary to popular belief. *The only difference is that a can lets no light in and a brown bottle lets in a small amount of light, which can damage a beer's taste because it reacts with the different chemical compounds in the beer and alters the taste of them. In this way a can is a better packaging than glass. I will also add, that if you are making the distinction between beer from a can and beer on draft, all beer on draft is in a keg, which is essentially a very large stainless can.

 

 

 

 

I just want defend against this common misconception and let you know that canned beer is not a bad thing. Now if you are saying this because the vast majority of canned beer is "triple hops brewed," pulled by clydesdales, and cold brewed; then that is a different argument all together.

 

Actually, there can be a significant difference in beer taste in cans vs bottles vs kegs. It all depends on the brewery, specifically on their pasteurization process.

 

The two most common beer pasteurizing techniques are flash pasteurizing and tunnel pasteurizing. In the flash method, beer is quickly brought to a high temp, held for set amount of time, and then dropped back down to a cold temp before being packaged in bottles, cans or kegs. With this method, all the beer is going to fast the same, regardless of it's packaging.

 

In the Tunnel method, beer is packaged first, and then run through a tunnel where it is sprayed with hot water until the center of the package reaches a set temperature. In this method, the material used in the packaging, and the shape of the bottle/can/keg does in fact, have a significant impact on how long the beer must be heated for the center to reach the needed temperature, which can change the flavor of the beer.

 

Both of these processes are ultimately designed to make beer more "shelf-stable", so that it can be shipped and stored at room temperature. In the US, domestically brewed keg beer is almost always unpastuerized, utilizing refrigerated trucks and warehouses to keep the kegs at a cold temperature from brewery to tap. Because it doesn't go through this extra "cooking" step, it WILL taste different than the same recipe in a can or bottle.

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