Article: Pitcher And Catchers Report On Day 2

[James]

The pool of money only applies to the first 10 rounds, correct? If the "unsignable" guys are still available do the Twins (and others) start looking at them again to pay them what they want?

It only applies to the first 10 rounds unless you give them a bonus over $100K. Any amount over that is included in the pool money spent.

 

So, you can't wait to draft in the 11th round and give them first round money.

[DaveW]

It only applies to the first 10 rounds unless you give them a bonus over $100K. Any amount over that is included in the pool money spent.

 

So, you can't wait to draft in the 11th round and give them first round money.

Well you could, you would just have to go under slot in earlier rounds.

[James]

Well you could, you would just have to go under slot in earlier rounds.

True. It just seems like a silly way to go about things.

[nicksaviking]

3B Dustin DeMuth. Another Hoosier, I'm guessing their scouts like to stick around Big 10 country? Sounds like he doesn't have much power potential.

[CwK]

Indiana 3B Dustin DeMuth in the 8th. Prototypical size, arm but lacks power production.

[TwinsFanInPhilly]

Matt Garrioch at minorleagueball says he doesn't see Demuth as that different from Pinder. Good value pick here.

[James]

3B Dustin DeMuth. Another Hoosier, I'm guessing their scouts like to stick around Big 10 country? Sounds like he doesn't have much power potential.

The description they gave on the MLB live draft wasn't that he couldn't have power, it more that he hasn't shown it yet. He could just need a adjustments to his swing to bring it out.

 

Also, they said he's from Bloomington, IN. I've been to that place. You'd think the Twins might be a little skeptical of a guy that grew up (and went to college) in a town where they sell pitchers of PBR for less than $4.

[nicksaviking]

The description they gave on the MLB live draft wasn't that he couldn't have power, it more that he hasn't shown it yet. He could just need a adjustments to his swing to bring it out.

 

That's not something this organization does well. Generally the guys in the system who have power, brought it with them and in some cases had to fend off challenges to keep it.

 

Also, they said he's from Bloomington, IN. I've been to that place. You'd think the Twins might be a little skeptical of a guy that grew up (and went to college) in a town where they sell pitchers of PBR for less than $4.

 

He will probably have a difficult time adjusting to downtown Minneapolis prices then. It might be for the best if he stays in the Midwest League.

[Shane Wahl]

Then the Twins go and make solid, smart picks in rounds 4-10. Navarreto is a good find that late and certainly DeMuth is a steal here. He is (and, being a Purdue grad, I hate IU tremendously) a good hitter, with doubles power and a decent approach. I like that pick a lot.

 

Gonsalves is a nice pick too. They did a good job in rounds 1, 4-10.

[nicksaviking]

So the Angels and Blue Jays have only taken pitchers, I know the Tigers have taken 7 pitchers in 8 picks. Pitchers are flying off the board everywhere. What is the causation that I'm missing? Did a bunch of teams do a study that found it was best to take pitchers early and position players late? Are all the pitchers just that much more appealing? Is there a new approach to load up on pitchers to see what sticks? Are they loading up hoping quantity will overcome the inevitable injury bug that will surely bite a large percentage of these young men?

 

Something seems unusual about this high volume of pitchers in the first 8 rounds. Anyone have a better take?

[James]

So the Angels and Blue Jays have only taken pitchers, I know the Tigers have taken 7 pitchers in 8 picks. Pitchers are flying off the board everywhere. What is the causation that I'm missing? Did a bunch of teams do a study that found it was best to take pitchers early and position players late? Are all the pitchers just that much more appealing? Is there a new approach to load up on pitchers to see what sticks? Are they loading up hoping quantity will overcome the inevitable injury bug that will surely bite a large percentage of these young men?

 

Something seems unusual about this high volume of pitchers in the first 8 rounds. Anyone have a better take?

That could have some to do with it. I've also heard that this was a particularly weak draft, especially for position players. Maybe teams are just going for best pitcher available.

 

But I really have no clue. It could just be that these teams looked at their system and decided they needed some depth at pitcher.

[boylan]

Stuart Turner's Ole Miss numbers:

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I think the comment about him hitting for a low average in the majors is BS. He's on the college leader BA board and lead his SEC team (it's a .500 team) in batting so he's not a dead man at the plate. Haven't viewed his video so comment on his swing.

 

Coaches voted him best catcher in the SEC which is a top conference.

 

I like this pick as a 3rd rounder. Speaks to the catching depth in this draft.

[70charger]

Another catcher!

[James]

Another catcher!

I think I'm seeing a trend...

[Shane Wahl]

Then the Twins go and make solid, smart picks in rounds 4-10. Navarreto is a good find that late and certainly DeMuth is a steal here. He is (and, being a Purdue grad, I hate IU tremendously) a good hitter, with doubles power and a decent approach. I like that pick a lot.

 

Gonsalves is a nice pick too. They did a good job in rounds 1, 4-10.

 

I mean 4-8. The 9th and 10th are to be determined

[cmb0252]

Class: SRHeight: 6'01" Weight: 200Bats: R Throws: RComments: Despite being named an All-American a year ago, Garver went undrafted as a junior. He returned to New Mexico and is regarded as one of the better college seniors in this year's Draft. Garver has posted exceptional offensive numbers while at New Mexico, but scouts worry they have been inflated by the thin air and good hitting environment of Albuquerque. Garver has improved defensively in the last year, quieting most of the concerns about his ability to remain behind the plate as a professional. He is an average receiver with a solid arm. Garver has also played left field, but his bat profiles much better if he can catch.

 

BA has him ranked 234.

[cmb0252]

3 college RHPs, 2 college Cs, a HS C, a college 3B, a HS RHP, and a HS LHP. Lots of catchers/RHPing.

[cmb0252]

9 picks for the blue jays, 9 pitchers.

[Shane Wahl]

The Twins have maybe Jorge Fernandez below Koch and that's it. The rest are not very good. Navarreto will be the best other than McGuire and Denney out of this draft. Garver is a nice pick as well. His upside is basically Chris Herrmann.

[Kwak]

It sure looks as if the Twins are planning on moving Mauer.

[Shane Wahl]

It sure looks as if the Twins are planning on moving Mauer.

 

I doubt that more than one of these catchers will make the big leagues. and that won't be until 2016.

[David Bohlander]

I doubt that more than one of these catchers will make the big leagues. and that won't be until 2016.

 

And will Mauer even be a catcher in 2016? They'll need an about-average backup at least.

[cmb0252]

U of M's own DJ Snelton to the Giants at 282. Dang, like him in the later rounds for the Twins.

[cmb0252]

The other U of M pitcher Windle has already agreed to terms with the Dodgers for slot. Also, 89th pick Cord Sandberg has agreed to sign over slot with the Phils. Hopefully the Twins will get some fast signings.

[70charger]

Charles Irby

 

6'01" 200lbs DOB: 05/06/92Irby is an accomplished two-way player at Samford. He was the Bulldogs' closer and DH last year, but moved into the starting rotation this spring. Irby's fastball sits around 90 mph as a starter and in the mid-90s as a reliever, with good movement. He mixes his fastball with a plus curveball that generates a lot of swing-and miss. His aggressiveness on the mound and lack of a quality third offering make Irby a better fit as a reliever. He is polished enough to move quickly through the Minor Leagues if a team returns him to the bullpen.

[cmb0252]

Charles Irby 237 on BA's list.

Height: 6'01" Weight: 200Bats: R Throws: RComments: Irby is an accomplished two-way player at Samford. He was the Bulldogs' closer and DH last year, but moved into the starting rotation this spring. Irby's fastball sits around 90 mph as a starter and in the mid-90s as a reliever, with good movement. He mixes his fastball with a plus curveball that generates a lot of swing-and miss. His aggressiveness on the mound and lack of a quality third offering make Irby a better fit as a reliever. He is polished enough to move quickly through the Minor Leagues if a team returns him to the bullpen.

[70charger]

In round 10, I think he's clearly a reliever.

[70charger]

Roundup:

 

Round 1: Kohl Stewart HS LHP

2: Ryan Eads, College RHP

3: Stuart Turner, College C

4: Stephen Gonsalves, HS LHP

5: Aaron Slegers, College RHP

6: Brian Navarreto, HS C

7: Brian Gilbert, College RHP

8: Dustin DeMuth, College 3B

9: Mitchell Garver, College C

10: Charles Irby, College RHP

[Shane Wahl]

Irby is definitely looking like a reliever. He put up interesting offensive stats, though. They could see what's going on in E-Town and change course. Good pick. The Twins did well in 4-10 and the first round. I am not sure about Slegers, at the moment, since he isn't all that great. He might be one to develop the ability to strike more batters out. I saw him pitch once this year and he looks the role, but something is amiss with his velocity. Worthwhile to take here though.

[jerickasdad34]

So im guessing Red Wings Ryan Boldt hasnt got drafted yet because of his injury and the fact that after the first couple rounds, he has a zero signability?