March 9, 20233 yr So far he's pitched 1.1 innings this spring and given up 9 earned runs. I'm just impressed at this point. I didn't know that was possible.
March 9, 20233 yr Not sure how short of a leash he will have. After last year it should be very very short.
March 9, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, raindog said: So far he's pitched 1.1 innings this spring and given up 9 earned runs. I'm just impressed at this point. I didn't know that was possible. Really, you didn't? I'm sorry you didn't get to watch Twins games last year.
March 9, 20233 yr Author 2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: Really, you didn't? I'm sorry you didn't get to watch Twins games last year. I feel like he's stepped up to a new level of bad this Spring, but maybe I've blocked out too much of last year.
March 9, 20233 yr 16 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: Really, you didn't? I'm sorry you didn't get to watch Twins games last year. I knew there was a silver lining in not being able to watch somewhere!
March 9, 20233 yr Seems almost criminal for him to continue using his self-assessed 'all-star stuff' for in-game batting practice. One potentially positive result of these fireworks in spring training is that there should be no misgivings about continuing this sad experience during games that count. Right Rocco? Seen enough yet??
March 9, 20233 yr Honestly, with Ober way overqualified to be a AAA starter and the team talking about having long men in the pen, Sending Pagan packing for Ober may be something they consider.
March 9, 20233 yr 35 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: Honestly, with Ober way overqualified to be a AAA starter and the team talking about having long men in the pen, Sending Pagan packing for Ober may be something they consider. Especially if Maeda looks more like a bullpen arm than a rotation arm.
March 9, 20233 yr 4 hours ago, raindog said: So far he's pitched 1.1 innings this spring and given up 9 earned runs. I'm just impressed at this point. I didn't know that was possible. Probably managed this not even facing guys who will be going north with their team.
March 9, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, wsnydes said: Especially if Maeda looks more like a bullpen arm than a rotation arm. Maeda might be fine to start though. Didn't he throw 2 scoreless innings where the pitchcom was broken and the batter could hear what pitch he was going to throw? Sounds like a good start to me. Pagan at the WBC will be more interesting to me than spring training game results though. Especially the early game results.
March 9, 20233 yr I heard Pagan was trying out a new pitch, but the results weren't good so he's going back to throwing overhand. The underhand motion just wasn't fooling anybody.
March 10, 20233 yr 8 hours ago, raindog said: So far he's pitched 1.1 innings this spring and given up 9 earned runs. I'm just impressed at this point. I didn't know that was possible. The official stats for Spring show that Pagan allowed three earned runs in one inning of work. Did he allow the other runs during the WBC?
March 10, 20233 yr 4 hours ago, big dog said: I heard Pagan was trying out a new pitch, but the results weren't good so he's going back to throwing overhand. The underhand motion just wasn't fooling anybody. The ump calling "too much arc" must have been frustrating to him. 😘
March 10, 20233 yr 26 minutes ago, stringer bell said: The official stats for Spring show that Pagan allowed three earned runs in one inning of work. Did he allow the other runs during the WBC? Yeah I see the same thing per MLB.com below. One bad first spring training outing shouldn't be a precursor for doom but I get that none of us trust him when he is in. Always feels like a HR is just the next pitch away. I certainly get PTSD when he comes in but still willing to give him most of spring to figure things out. Several pitchers have righted the ship so to speak this spring after tough outings.
March 10, 20233 yr Pagan has been in a state of perpetual struggle since joining the Twins. How many more data points do the Twins need?
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