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25 minutes ago, AstrosTwins said:

Just heard in MLB Radio but no reason given yet. Hopefully just precautionary and not injury related.

 

EDIT: Not injury related. Joint decision between Correa and the Twins. His wife is also due to give birth shortly.

Glad it's not a physical reason. I feel better not exposing him to non Twins games.

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The explanation on the MLB site made sense. Lots of travel, and generally bouncing around, to and from ST, WBC, home for paternity leave, back to WBC that he wouldn't have the time to build himself up to where he needs to be before entering into the championship round of the WBC and be trying to go full speed. Basically his ST will be cut short/interrupted too much with the birth of his baby that it wouldn't make sense for him to try to go all out in early/mid-March.

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54 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said:

I've never quite grasped why there is a WBC in the first place.

 The games promote BB thruout the world. Some of the world's best talent gets shown in venues where BB is underrepresented.
Besides, I hold 5 tix in Chase Field in Phoenix in March, including the sold out event of Mex vs US; 48,000 fans.

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1 hour ago, Nine of twelve said:

I've never quite grasped why there is a WBC in the first place.

If I recall, it originally started when baseball got dropped from the Olympics. However, it was in the last Olympics, although I think it will be dropped again in 2024.

I'm not against the WBC in concept, but with all the money in MLB the stakes have gotten too high as it relates to potential injuries.

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48 minutes ago, LewFordLives said:

If I recall, it originally started when baseball got dropped from the Olympics. However, it was in the last Olympics, although I think it will be dropped again in 2024.

I'm not against the WBC in concept, but with all the money in MLB the stakes have gotten too high as it relates to potential injuries.

Right ... seems to me that if it were still a regular Olympic sport, the WBC wouldn't be necessary. It won't be in the 2024 Olympics, but it will be in the 2028 Olympics that will be held in LA. That it was removed is partially the fault of MLB, from what I understand, but not entirely. Mostly it was about scheduling.

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The WBC is cool, but when they play it is dumb. I bet right after the season would be better. Although then you'd have free agents skipping it due to contract risk issues. It really could function as a sort of high end AFL. I assume that Team USA made up of top 100 prospects would do quite well.

I root for team PR, but am glad to see Correa chillin rather than risking it. 

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I absolutely love the WBC. It's like the all star game being played with 100% effort and strategy when you get down to the final 4 teams that are almost all MLB players, or elite players from the other leagues around the globe. Correa not being there definitely makes sense, but I was looking forward to watching him play. A Twins player going down in it would be a bummer (any player going down in it would be a bummer), but I'd still look forward to the next one. I think it's the best thing baseball has done in decades. I'll be up at 4 and 5 in the morning watching the pool play games starting March 8th and I can't wait!

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I love it because the games are played with such joy. The repressed American game just doesn't compare with the way it's played in Latin America and Japan.  And in the WBC the pros are trash talking and having fun in ways I just find inspiring: it's a fun game and it's good to see people enjoying it.

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3 hours ago, Cris E said:

I love it because the games are played with such joy. The repressed American game just doesn't compare with the way it's played in Latin America and Japan...

Your comment is right on. We fans, surrounding the Great Lakes, from here to Toronto are known for "sitting on their hands."
Visit Dodger Stadium where many of the fans are Latino. Bamm! Visit a Univ Arizona game or Arizona State. Same thing. It is just great to be part of that kind of crowd.

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I think that it's about priorities. I thought that some NFL contracts have included restrictions that prohibit specific risky activities that a player can't engage in. If MLB players want guaranteed money then maybe they should be willing to accept the loss of income if they can't perform their MLB job as a result of an off-season injury The players can buy their own insurance for loss of earnings but I don't see how the team can be on the hook for their salary. Maybe the team isn't liable, but either way it's still about priorities. I'm glad he's not playing.

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1 hour ago, sun said:

I think that it's about priorities. I thought that some NFL contracts have included restrictions that prohibit specific risky activities that a player can't engage in. If MLB players want guaranteed money then maybe they should be willing to accept the loss of income if they can't perform their MLB job as a result of an off-season injury The players can buy their own insurance for loss of earnings but I don't see how the team can be on the hook for their salary. Maybe the team isn't liable, but either way it's still about priorities. I'm glad he's not playing.

Um, MLB contracts already are both guaranteed and have clauses restricting unsafe behavior.  NFL contracts are not guaranteed and guys get them broken off all the time for reasons outside their control. There's nothing about NFL contracts that any MLB player should want any part of.

Regardless, I'm glad Carlos is taking time off to be with his family (and coincidentally reducing the risk he blows up his ankle.)

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I have a very hard time debating baseball in the Olympics vs the WBC. I'm not sure there is room for both. But maybe that's more of a scheduling situation? The NBA and NHL have found ways to participate in the Olympics despite having long seasons. But the summer Olympics usually take place right in the middle of the MLB season. And considering the ML season stretches in to November, I don't know that MLB could do any better than assembling a MILB team to compete. 

And thats unfortunate, not for national pride, but for the beauty of the sport. 

There's no easy answer. You can't start ST every 4yrs 3-4 weeks earlier, and stretch the WS in to late November to accommodate the Olympics? Or can you?

The WBC should stay in place, IMO, based on simple time lines. But I applaud Correa for sitting this one out, despite national pride. I mean, forget about his dedication to his craft and obligation to the Twins. His immediate obligation is to the birth of his child! NOTHING trumps that!

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19 hours ago, Cris E said:

Um, MLB contracts already are both guaranteed and have clauses restricting unsafe behavior.  NFL contracts are not guaranteed and guys get them broken off all the time for reasons outside their control. There's nothing about NFL contracts that any MLB player should want any part of.

Regardless, I'm glad Carlos is taking time off to be with his family (and coincidentally reducing the risk he blows up his ankle.)

Thanks for the clarification. The NFL does pay huge signing bonuses to their stars before the contract is fulfilled which is much like guaranteed money.  In some rare instances an NF:L team may try to recover a portion of the signing bonus. And I'd guess that if an NFL player were involved in a prohibited activity and got seriously injured then that might be one of them. The case I remembered was about an NFL quarterback. Usually NFL teams won't ask for a signing bonus back unless the player retires, quits the team or breeches his contract. And even then sometimes they don't try to collect from team superstars because it's treated like a payment to retire early.

I found an article with some of the prohibitions of a standard MLB contract. Besides those, the player needs to be in 1st class physical condition. I suppose it's possible that if a player were injured in a non-prohibited activity that they could lose their paychecks during the portion of the season that they were injured and not in 1st class condition. That might be the reason for a player participating in any risky sports activity to buy their own loss of earnings liability insurance which could cost the player some money, especially if he's an elite superstar. And there can also be terms in superstar contracts that are added in which are aren't part of the standard contract, so not all contracts are the same.

https://www.businessinsider.com/uniform-major-league-baseball-contract-2011-4 

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