In Fairytale Land: Twins sign Correa ... what do you do?

[Squirrel]

I know, I know ... yet ANOTHER Correa thread. This time a poll, though. So, let's suspend reality for a second, and the Twins actually sign Correa, what is your reaction?

Comments please, but only for humor, or explaining your choice(s).

(Psst ... you can choose more than one answer)

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

The problem with your survey options is that you are missing one: That the people who are usually wrong about stuff just keep being wrong about the next shiny new thing that comes along without stopping to reflect on how wrong they were in the past on all the other stuff. ?

[Squirrel]

17 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

The problem with your survey options is that you are missing one: That the people who are usually wrong about stuff just keep being wrong about the next shiny new thing that comes along without stopping to reflect on how wrong they were in the past on all the other stuff. ?

ooooookaaaaaaay ... and that's a personal and individual reaction that people will have when they hear the news that the Twins signed Correa?

[Vanimal46]

I’ll welcome him back with open arms. That will also change my feeling about the FO as well. If Correa is back, they checked off my 2 top priorities. Signing a SS/middle of the order bat, and signing a catcher who is better than Gary Sanchez. 

[ashbury]

Decision making is all about dealing with the information you have when you have it. A 10-year commitment at $285M two months ago seemed both below-market and a bit much for the Twins given the team's anticipated needs during that span. But since that time, we have new information (and some knowledgeable speculation): not one but TWO big-money teams took a look at his medicals and backed out due to concerns about arthritis setting in on that leg.

Those two teams are stupid, and we're going to be smart, by signing him for nearly as long-term, and for only a little less money than they backed out of?

I voted the cost-effectiveness option, but really it all depends on how much risk-mitigation the Twins achieved with this hypothetical signing - the setup for this poll lacks important specifics. 10/$285M and I may be more irate than what I voted.  7 years for something north of $200M and I'm a little less worried, especially if there are additional clauses protecting the team somehow; but I'm not sure player or agent is desperate enough yet to accept that much of a price markdown.

[NotAboutWinning]

So many choices and all of them perfectly valid ?????

[Vanimal46]

1 hour ago, ashbury said:

Decision making is all about dealing with the information you have when you have it. A 10-year commitment at $285M two months ago seemed both below-market and a bit much for the Twins given the team's anticipated needs during that span. But since that time, we have new information (and some knowledgeable speculation): not one but TWO big-money teams took a look at his medicals and backed out due to concerns about arthritis setting in on that leg.

Those two teams are stupid, and we're going to be smart, by signing him for nearly as long-term, and for only a little less money than they backed out of?

I voted the cost-effectiveness option, but really it all depends on how much risk-mitigation the Twins achieved with this hypothetical signing - the setup for this poll lacks important specifics. 10/$285M and I may be more irate than what I voted.  7 years for something north of $200M and I'm a little less worried, especially if there are additional clauses protecting the team somehow; but I'm not sure player or agent is desperate enough yet to accept that much of a price markdown.

Fair and I concur. With all of the new info we gathered, I would hope the original 10/$285 offer is completely off the table. I’m willing to take the risk up to 6-7 years. The sweet spot will be between 3-5 years no opt outs. 

[Craig Arko]

I suppose I’ll have a boilermaker and then go back to my reading. 

[tony&rodney]

The Twins started November seeking: 1)SS; 2) C; 3)TOR SP; 4) RH bat, preferably OF; and 5) RP.

Correa covers the first and loosely the fourth goal. Vasquez takes care of the second need. Does Oliver Ortega take care of five? Correa and Vasquez is a decent start and a trade might just take care of another need, although the top pitchers are spoken for now. If Correa winds up back with the Twins, it is a positive.

[Squirrel]

1 hour ago, NotAboutWinning said:

So many choices and all of them perfectly valid ?????

You can choose them alll if you want! :)

[Riverbrian]

I will think to myself.

OK... Correa is on the Roster. ?

[cHawk]

It would be something if they can sign Correa. I hope they can do it. Of course, if it turns out that they had the opportunity to do it and they miss it, I will calling for Falvine’s jobs.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Rally Monkey? - Nope

Target Field Squirrel? - Getting warmer

Richie the Rally Goat?

affirmative!

[Paul Walerius]

I will be happy however with what he did last year I think it is way too much money.   He never had a big Twins moment.   If they do sign him, hopefully he has many good moments.

[DocBauer]

I will pop something, or pour something, and raise a toast.

And then I will climb back up on my soapbox and scream for a RH bat and a RP to finish things off!

And if they do that, I will pop something, or pour something and raise a toast.

And if they don't do that, I will pop something, or pour something, and mumble and grumble that they didn't. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Yeah, I admit it would be nice to have Buxton, Correa, and Dobnak all locked up long-term. ?

It depends on the money, obviously. And Correa seems ticketed for third base soon. I think the Twins have all the leverage.*  Boras really blew it and at this point Correa’s value should be discounted deeply. So my reaction does depend on the final terms wherever he lands (I’m still betting The Fellowship signs him)

 

* still bidding against the Mets I presume 

[nicksaviking]

4 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

I’ll welcome him back with open arms. That will also change my feeling about the FO as well. If Correa is back, they checked off my 2 top priorities. Signing a SS/middle of the order bat, and signing a catcher who is better than Gary Sanchez. 

Tony Wolter’s is thrilled with your endorsement!

[Parfigliano]

2 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Fair and I concur. With all of the new info we gathered, I would hope the original 10/$285 offer is completely off the table. I’m willing to take the risk up to 6-7 years. The sweet spot will be between 3-5 years no opt outs. 

It has to be off the table because Correa already passed on it.  They would have to be insane to offer 10 years at this point

[Vanimal46]

7 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Tony Wolter’s is thrilled with your endorsement!

Didn’t take long for Christian Vazquez to be tossed aside here

[Parfigliano]

9 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Yeah, I admit it would be nice to have Buxton, Correa, and Dobnak all locked up long-term. ?

It depends on the money, obviously. And Correa seems ticketed for third base soon. I think the Twins have all the leverage. Boras really blew it and at this point Correa’s value should be discounted deeply. So my reaction does depend on the final terms wherever he lands (I’m still betting The Fellowship signs him)

Double spot on...Boras blew it.  Hope Twins dont let him un-blow it with another 10 year contract offer.

[Squirrel]

7 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

It has to be off the table because Correa already passed on it.  They would have to be insane to offer 10 years at this point

Yeah, can’t imagine he’ll get 10 yrs anywhere. But I’d go 8/285.

[Vanimal46]

5 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

Yeah, can’t imagine he’ll get 10 yrs anywhere. But I’d go 8/285.

You think the Twins have to stick with the total contract value of $285 million? At this point it seems like we can go much lower. His leverage is gone if the Mets indeed back out. 

[nicksaviking]

10 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Didn’t take long for Christian Vazquez to be tossed aside here

Those two will need to duel for the honor of being named the heir to Sir Sanchez.

[Vanimal46]

2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Those two will need to duel for the honor of being named the heir to Sir Sanchez.

Sir Sanchez wrc+ in 2022 was 89. Christian Vazquez 99. 

[Squirrel]

41 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

You think the Twins have to stick with the total contract value of $285 million? At this point it seems like we can go much lower. His leverage is gone if the Mets indeed back out. 

I don’t think they have to, but that’s what I’d do to get it done. I think Correa is worth that for 8 years.

[Parfigliano]

42 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

You think the Twins have to stick with the total contract value of $285 million? At this point it seems like we can go much lower. His leverage is gone if the Mets indeed back out. 

Passed on Twins.  Giants backed out.  Mets backing out.  He has the leverage of a broken teeter-toter at this point.  

[IA Bean Counter]

If I were to venture a guess, I think this ends in a 6-8 year deal.  210-240 million.  The285 mil is off the table and you are going in knowing it is uninsurable.  Maybe an opt out after 3 years.  The Twins are in the drivers seat now.  I don’t see the Giants getting back involved.  
 

Cohen just like 3 tweets, 1 saying the Mets were frustrated with the negotiations, 1 they are happy with the players they have, and 1 that says the Mets are in such better hands than the previous owners because he will continue to try to make the team better.  It is sure looking like the Mets deal is done.  

[se7799]

5 hours ago, ashbury said:

Decision making is all about dealing with the information you have when you have it. A 10-year commitment at $285M two months ago seemed both below-market and a bit much for the Twins given the team's anticipated needs during that span. But since that time, we have new information (and some knowledgeable speculation): not one but TWO big-money teams took a look at his medicals and backed out due to concerns about arthritis setting in on that leg.

Those two teams are stupid, and we're going to be smart, by signing him for nearly as long-term, and for only a little less money than they backed out of?

I voted the cost-effectiveness option, but really it all depends on how much risk-mitigation the Twins achieved with this hypothetical signing - the setup for this poll lacks important specifics. 10/$285M and I may be more irate than what I voted.  7 years for something north of $200M and I'm a little less worried, especially if there are additional clauses protecting the team somehow; but I'm not sure player or agent is desperate enough yet to accept that much of a price markdown.

I'd still be fine with 8 to 10 years 285.  I don't think his value is going to fall off the table.  He will get paid..just not 300+.  I'd be happy with original offer.  Knowing last 3 or so years might be negative value.  I need this..we need this!

[AussieG]

1 hour ago, se7799 said:

I'd still be fine with 8 to 10 years 285.  I don't think his value is going to fall off the table.  He will get paid..just not 300+.  I'd be happy with original offer.  Knowing last 3 or so years might be negative value.  I need this..we need this!

Same, But maybe have opt-outs after 4/5yrs on both sides

[bap3141]

I said that I would  "dance, and sing, and leap for joy, and I don't care who is watching" ...

But then, I do that every night before the nurses administer my meds.  ?