Manfred and the ball scandal continued into 2022 season

[Doctor Gast]

This scandal has been circulating for a couple weeks now, not sure if it has been discussed on TD. MLB has been accused of circulating 3 different baseballs during the '22 season. Manfred lied & said that there was only one type of ball. But in fact there was the dead ball (most teams had), the juiced ball and the "Goldilocks" (not too light, not heavy- just right for hitters), those went to NYY.

https://climbingtalshill.com/posts/astros-news-study-reveals-the-yankees-received-juiced-baseballs-in-2022-01gkpf60tavn

Another case where MLB catering to the big teams & players. Something should be done, what do you think?

[terrydactyls]

This article raises questions about it's methodology and validity.  They claim the "goldilocks" ball was only used in Yankee games.  How did the Yankees get them into their road games?  I think that the home team is responsible for providing the balls.  If both teams provide balls, how did the Yankees get them into the game only when they were hitting?  If the article meant at Yankee home games, wouldn't both teams get the benefit of using a non-dead ball?  And if both teams use the "goldilocks" ball, how is that favoring the Yankees?  While the usage of different balls is appalling, I don't think the Yankees received any help by this on the field.  It may have helped the ownership a little if there was an increase in attendance because of the possible increase of offense; although the article does not mention what impact there was because of the usage of the "goldilocks" ball except to hint that the ball travelled further.  And even then, the article doesn't provide any data on how much further the ball traveled.  The usage of multiple types of baseballs by MLB is stupid but to say the Yankees benefited is unfair.  And I haven't liked the Yankees since Yogi Berra retired.

 

[Bigfork Twins Guy]

1 hour ago, terrydactyls said:

This article raises questions about it's methodology and validity.  They claim the "goldilocks" ball was only used in Yankee games.  How did the Yankees get them into their road games?  I think that the home team is responsible for providing the balls.  If both teams provide balls, how did the Yankees get them into the game only when they were hitting?  If the article meant at Yankee home games, wouldn't both teams get the benefit of using a non-dead ball?  And if both teams use the "goldilocks" ball, how is that favoring the Yankees?  While the usage of different balls is appalling, I don't think the Yankees received any help by this on the field.  It may have helped the ownership a little if there was an increase in attendance because of the possible increase of offense; although the article does not mention what impact there was because of the usage of the "goldilocks" ball except to hint that the ball travelled further.  And even then, the article doesn't provide any data on how much further the ball traveled.  The usage of multiple types of baseballs by MLB is stupid but to say the Yankees benefited is unfair.  And I haven't liked the Yankees since Yogi Berra retired.

 

Yes, Yankees’s opponents benefited when they played at Yankee stadium, but The Yankees benefited more because they played 81 home games last year. 

[terrydactyls]

5 hours ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

Yes, Yankees’s opponents benefited when they played at Yankee stadium, but The Yankees benefited more because they played 81 home games last year. 

Since the chart shows the Yankees getting the "goldilocks" ball from August to the end of the season, they only had 34 home games.

[se7799]

1 hour ago, terrydactyls said:

Since the chart shows the Yankees getting the "goldilocks" ball from August to the end of the season, they only had 34 home games.

If it's happened once it's very conceivable it's happened before.  When I get pulled over for speeding...I'm sure it's not my first time going over the speed limit.

[bighat]

2 hours ago, terrydactyls said:

Since the chart shows the Yankees getting the "goldilocks" ball from August to the end of the season, they only had 34 home games.

You're saying it like it's no big deal....uh, that's 34 games where the Yanks were getting the "goldilocks" balls and other teams weren't. That's an incredible advantage. 

The reason he started pouring them in at the end of the season is that they were desperate for a Yankees playoff run and Judge was pushing for 62 homers. It was just too mouth-watering for MLB execs to pass up. They couldn't let things happen organically, they had to manipulate everything to keep MLB on the front page of ESPN.com. 

 

[Vanimal46]

Here’s a good video about the issue:

MLB buying Rawlings was bad news. Now they have full control to influence outcomes. 

[tony&rodney]

I find it interesting that Manfred can affect the course of baseball games repeatedly and this is just some tinkering by MLB. Meanwhile, the entire steroid era, initially encouraged (the enormous MLB publicity campaign hyping the Sosa-McGuire HR race) and then ignored before a sudden strong stand full of false ethics, was the players' fault. Then MLB made it a goal to tie the entire steroid era to Barry Bonds. It is pretty seamy.

[Parfigliano]

9 hours ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

Yes, Yankees’s opponents benefited when they played at Yankee stadium, but The Yankees benefited more because they played 81 home games last year. 

Bingo.

[Parfigliano]

11 hours ago, Doctor Gast said:

This scandal has been circulating for a couple weeks now, not sure if it has been discussed on TD. MLB has been accused of circulating 3 different baseballs during the '22 season. Manfred lied & said that there was only one type of ball. But in fact there was the dead ball (most teams had), the juiced ball and the "Goldilocks" (not too light, not heavy- just right for hitters), those went to NYY.

https://climbingtalshill.com/posts/astros-news-study-reveals-the-yankees-received-juiced-baseballs-in-2022-01gkpf60tavn

Another case where MLB catering to the big teams & players. Something should be done, what do you think?

If this is true then the Judge HR record is no record.  

[notoriousgod71]

57 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

If this is true then the Judge HR record is no record.  

I have always suspected MLB might use different balls when someone approached a record. The umpires would throw out normal balls and bring in "specially authenticated" balls whenever judge would come up.

 

Who knew it was actually true?

[mnfireman]

1 hour ago, Parfigliano said:

If this is true then the Judge HR record is no record.  

Unlike steroid users, Judge had no control over this...