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3 Third Baseman Trades That Could Provide the Twins a Productive Bat


Nate Palmer

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26 minutes ago, old nurse said:

What reliever, still active or alive does as you want that actually has pitched the 2-3 innings every other day. 

Mike Marshal is one, Carl Willis did it, There are others. They used to say "rubber arms", but it seems in todays world its a forgotten ability. Obviously it couldn't happen every other day through the entire season, which is why they need at least 2 guys that can go 2 innings.

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57 minutes ago, old nurse said:

Why would the Angels trade what they just signed. That the Angels signed him might be enough of a wed flag

Uh, not to be snarky, but my post was being sarcastic-------No way do the Halos trade Drury now------I was maintaining that our "braintrust" (using that term lightly) should've signed Drury before the Angels did.

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46 minutes ago, Karbo said:

Mike Marshal is one, Carl Willis did it, There are others. They used to say "rubber arms", but it seems in todays world its a forgotten ability. Obviously it couldn't happen every other day through the entire season, which is why they need at least 2 guys that can go 2 innings.

So, Marshall was a half century ago, Willis was at his peak 30 years ago and was good for 3 years.  Derek Lowe pitched multiple innings before being transition to a starter. That was before the turn of the century. Consistent 2 inning pitchers are like unicorns, Bigfoot  and some people’s election ballots, they do not exist. The long reliever becomes starter with injuries. If the pitcher is good at getting an out, pretty quick they are the closer or 8th inning guy. If the pitcher can keep the pitch count down, pretty quick they also good enough to not get hit hard their role changes.

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1 hour ago, darwin22 said:

Uh, not to be snarky, but my post was being sarcastic-------No way do the Halos trade Drury now------I was maintaining that our "braintrust" (using that term lightly) should've signed Drury before the Angels did.

Not to be snarky but there were people here who like mediocre players who have one good year. Far too many. If you give sarcasm back to what you thought was sarcasm, watch out

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Well...I appreciate the work Nate.  While I don't think there are many possibilities that this team shouldn't consider, trading assets for a 3B may be one of them.  Miranda...Arraez...Farmer...Brooks Lee (possibly, eventually) tell me a RH bat may be added, but at a different position.

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I think a Devers trade would be very intriguing.  I would be willing to trade Luis Arraez and Max Kepler for a year of Devers and a serious look into an extension.  Devers has a great bat, not only for average but for power (29 HRs in 2022) as well.  I would imagine he would share time at first and third, eventually settling into a first base role as 2022 saw his defense dwindle to a -2 OAA.  The Red Sox have Verdugo and Hernandez in the outfield and Kepler would slide in nicely to defend Pesky's Pole.  Kepler could also benefit from playing in the AL East which has been great for LH hitters. The trade would allow Trevor Story to slide back to shortstop and Arraez can take over at second or third with Arroyo taking second.  Arraez also provides some much needed base hits in a power-heavy Boston lineup.  It would also likely require a low tier prospect as well in the form of a player to be named later (according to Baseball Trade Values).  What do y'all think?

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On 12/24/2022 at 10:18 AM, saviking said:

Miranda is going to play average defense and be a perineal 300 hitter with power. He tore up the minor leagues and acquitted himself well in his first season. He can play 1st base if needed and of coerce DG. He's a right handed hitter which is at a premium. 

Miranda, Lewis, Lee, Krilloff, Laurnich, Wallner, Julian, Martin, We've been anticipating their arrival for the last 4 to 5 years. Let's put a bat and ball in their hands and let them play. And we still have Buxton, Arreaz , Gordon, Gallo and our catcher potion solved.  

By 2024 this group can be one of the premier lineups in the league, leading in batting average and at the top with home runs. 

Two of the three you've listed are already here and have not yet proven capable of staying on the field long enough to have an impact.  Law of averages and baseball history says that two of the remaining five deliver what we've anticipated, two become fringe producers and one a bust or never even gets here.  AND none of them pitch.

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With finite resources available, and time dwindling towards spring training, I don't think that the Twins should be wasting either on something that doesn't fill a hole.  However, if Devers were the prize, I would be excited to have him here.  Only problem is meeting the asking price for a one-year rental.  I have no interest at all in Rendon, or Escobar.  Rendon has not been able to stay on the field and Escobar has been declining the past two seasons and it's hard to see him improving as he turns 34 in the next few weeks. 

 

Devers is a stud and would help the team, but the Red Sox's asking price is likely astronomical. 

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21 hours ago, old nurse said:

So, Marshall was a half century ago, Willis was at his peak 30 years ago and was good for 3 years.  Derek Lowe pitched multiple innings before being transition to a starter. That was before the turn of the century. Consistent 2 inning pitchers are like unicorns, Bigfoot  and some people’s election ballots, they do not exist. The long reliever becomes starter with injuries. If the pitcher is good at getting an out, pretty quick they are the closer or 8th inning guy. If the pitcher can keep the pitch count down, pretty quick they also good enough to not get hit hard their role changes.

True the game has changed. But it can be done. Just a bunch of snowflakes that get paid big bucks yet are way to pampered today IMO. With the advances in sports medicine and training it should be able to still be done IMO. At the rate the team uses their starters they better get somebody that can go longer or get the starters to go longer or it will be another year of pen meltdowns.

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4 hours ago, Karbo said:

True the game has changed. But it can be done. Just a bunch of snowflakes that get paid big bucks yet are way to pampered today IMO. With the advances in sports medicine and training it should be able to still be done IMO. At the rate the team uses their starters they better get somebody that can go longer or get the starters to go longer or it will be another year of pen meltdowns.

snowflakes? Ugh.

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