Carlos Correa Makes His Decision Clear

[dex8425]

1 hour ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

 

How much? I would absolutely give him five years, $200 million but I don't think that's going to carry the day. I think he'd be looking for at least seven years and probably north of $250 million. To me, that would be worth it but it's not my money. The real conundrum I see is I think we need to sign one top end starter to go with him, and then I think we can carry the rest of the team with what we have. I would love to see them sign Correa long-term and sigh a three or four year deal with Carlos Rondon, run the rest of the team back and see how we do. . I would also think about trading young pitching with real upside like SWR, Ober, Varland, etc.  to a bad team that happened to have one really good starter but I'm not aware of any such situation.

 

Yeah, I don't think 5/200 gets a deal done but Boras probably doesn't hang up the phone....At least I hope not. Zac Gallen from the DBacks would probably qualify? Pablo Lopez from MIA?

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Que sera sera.

 

Glad he spent some quality time as a Twins, and got to know our prospects and vice versa.

 

And who knows how the off season will play out? Will Dozier really be traded to the Dodgers in the next 24 hours?

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41 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

You and I are too old to learn things. 

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Where'd ya learn that?

[FrankQuilicy]

On 9/30/2022 at 9:21 AM, baul0010 said:

Why is Brooks 5 years away?  I think he's 21.  If he doesn't come up until he's 26, something has gone terribly wrong with his development.  But, who knows if he'll even stick at S.S.

exactly, so a multi year deal with Correa makes great sense. Correa is so baseball smart, and his shelf life is probably longer then either Polanco, or Arraez...i see him playing 2nd, or 1st, maybe even some 3rd, in the last years of an 8 year contract.

[FrankQuilicy]

On 9/30/2022 at 7:19 AM, whosafraidofluigirussolo said:

Lee: ??  He was promoted through 3 levels of the minors and reached AA within 3 months of being drafted. He won't be ready for opening day 2023, but even in an organization that can be conservative about prospect promotions, he's going to be in the majors in much, much less time than 5 years.

Basically agreed on Martin and Palacios.

The Twins have been committed to playing Lewis at shortstop other than when he was in the AFL (with other SS on the roster to consider) and when they prematurely tried to shoehorn him in that super-sub role at the MLB level. They were willing to start him at SS every day when they first promoted him. I don't know that he'll stay there long term, and his knee is now a huge wild card, but if the latest surgery recovery goes anywhere near as well as the first one did, he'll get a chance to start at SS again.

Certainly the timing of Correa opting out isn't good, with Lewis and Lee likely to be close but not ready at the beginning of 2023. IMO signing him could be a totally defensible decision and letting him walk could be too, depending on their evaluations of Lee and Lewis.

man it's awful optimistic to see Lee being ready before 2025. Lewis can handle ss when his knee recovers but for how long? For 2023 they can either put Gordon or Polanco there, Palacios, wait for Lewis...or just sign Correa to as much of a  deal he wants and let those guys fill in where they fit in. Also the 3b job has got to stay with Urshela. That dude was just Solid all fricken year.

[FrankQuilicy]

On 9/30/2022 at 7:19 AM, whosafraidofluigirussolo said:

Lee: ??  He was promoted through 3 levels of the minors and reached AA within 3 months of being drafted. He won't be ready for opening day 2023, but even in an organization that can be conservative about prospect promotions, he's going to be in the majors in much, much less time than 5 years.

Basically agreed on Martin and Palacios.

The Twins have been committed to playing Lewis at shortstop other than when he was in the AFL (with other SS on the roster to consider) and when they prematurely tried to shoehorn him in that super-sub role at the MLB level. They were willing to start him at SS every day when they first promoted him. I don't know that he'll stay there long term, and his knee is now a huge wild card, but if the latest surgery recovery goes anywhere near as well as the first one did, he'll get a chance to start at SS again.

Certainly the timing of Correa opting out isn't good, with Lewis and Lee likely to be close but not ready at the beginning of 2023. IMO signing him could be a totally defensible decision and letting him walk could be too, depending on their evaluations of Lee and Lewis.

right!  we have no major league ready shortstop. Someone will give Correa 8 yrs, 250 mil. Why not us. Its cheap if you really analyze it. I dont think he cares about what Seager got, he wants the security. I saw him live! He's the real deal.

[FrankQuilicy]

On 9/30/2022 at 6:33 AM, mac098 said:

So you're saying that Lee is going to be 25-27 when he finally gets to the show? If that is the case, I think we need to make sure we are drafting better. Because I think that if we are drafting college players, they more than likely aren't going to be spending a lot of years down in the minors. Maybe 2-3 years, unless you get a star who is on the fast track to the MLB like Kris Bryant, where at that point you will "manipulate" their service time to earn that extra year out of them. 

Personally I don't think that Lee is going to stick at SS. He might be better off playing somewhere else, or at the very least, tasting other positions (2B and 1B) where we might have shortcomings in our org or at our MLB depth chart. Of course, some of those shortcomings can be changed with a reduction of injuries to the players. 

But I am gonna have to agree that the majority of our current MiLB SS aren't going to stick it there and that we need to lock him long term. Whether that means we actually gotta open the pocket-book and pay him, then that's what we gotta do. 

24-26 and its so early to say but i bet if they tell him, Lee makes a MLB shortstop. My point is what the hell do we do while we wait?

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On 10/3/2022 at 1:42 PM, dex8425 said:

I would love to see them sign Correa long-term and sigh a three or four year deal with Carlos Rondon, run the rest of the team back and see how we do.

IDK. Agree it would be wonderful to suit up both Correa and Rodon, but there are other needs too. We can't run the same guys back because they are injured quite often and can't run. The Twins need much more athletic players. Maybe your suggestion of trading some of our young pitchers would find a player. I will suggest that the Twins should be open to any movement of any players if the return creates more potential going forward. 

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On 10/3/2022 at 1:42 PM, dex8425 said:

Yeah, I don't think 5/200 gets a deal done but Boras probably doesn't hang up the phone....At least I hope not. Zac Gallen from the DBacks would probably qualify? Pablo Lopez from MIA?

While I like the idea of Zac Gallen in theory, he and his UCL issues would go over in Twins Territory about as well as a used diaper on a Taco Bell menu. That is, half the patrons would recoil in terror and the other half would just accept it as being standard fare for the organization.

Also, I thought Dior was a perfume, so most of this conversation is way over my head.